Educated, Elite, Color Blind-BAD v. Uneducated LIV & poor Racist--GOOD! How Inspiring!

Never thought I'd live in a country where the less education, the less money, and the less tolerance you have, the more important you become.

Guess we should all aspire for our children to not want to go to college, or find themselves a decent job. Tolerance is not cool....much better to be bigoted and proud of it. :patriot:

And don't even mention being Black. Now, that's just a terrible thing to be. You barely count, and if you do, it is in order to be discounted.

That's what I'm hearing from the Pundits (which is why I turned off the TV).

I'm kind of depressed, cause as an immigrant, I worked my fingers to the bones for a better future only accessible to the many in America, and now my daughter gone and done finishing her third year at Harvard! I'm soooo disappointed in her. She is becoming less and less important in the eyes of America and Television pundits every day. What should I say to this flop of a child? That she has let this nation down? I'm going to have to hide her portrait in our house. Oh...and she reads a lot, while drinking Lattes. Damn! There is so much shame that I feel. :(

(LIV = Low Information voters)

has used the "White working class" wedge issue. Second, He said that leaders in the party are concerned about what Hillary is doing to Obama.

But then, I don't really count, so it doesn't really matter.

played out for reasons yet to be revealed. Hopefully it's the clintons & the m$$$fm getting their greedy political, corporatewhore ass handed to them by High Information Voters.

I might as well turn in my voter registration card now.

You're done!

I chalk it up to a fascination with sideshow circus freaks.

Thank God the sane people outnumber these embarrassments by a large margin.

as though being a undeducated bigoted poor racist is cool again. Like that's what America is about. I don't believe that.

And trust me, it was not meant as flattery.

The Clintons have out-Reagan'd Reagan with stirring up racial division. They have made it perfectly acceptable to vote on racial lines and say it out loud. The media is simply repeating the blast fax talking points they get from the Clinton campaign every day, and that includes their catchy little demographic descriptions like "white, working class voter" - a euphemism for "stupid low class racist".

It started w/the Clintons and the media jumped all over it.

was to avoid this.

Now it holds us hostage. And, honestly, keeps this nation from achieving so many good things, even for those people. sad, ain't it?

Now I'm ashamed. In about three years, I'll be taking my black male, JD/PhD aspiring ass into hiding. How could I ever let my country down like this!

:-(

and learning to love it!

is not hard working, they are elitist. "working class" is a depressing enough term, what is with the new "hardworking"?

This primary season has shown that race does matter, even in a democratic primary. We should all feel proud!!!

How did we get so lucky? :shrug:

what they come up with for the general election.

By pandering to the "uninformed" It's about using issues that have nothing to do with whether you're going to be able pay your bills next week. It's about gay marriage and swift boats. Or in 2008 it's about "white working class voters" and "Talking to our enemies."



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I just hope we all can just get along before the GE or our country is fucked.


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thing as the Bush campaign did. That's what makes it much more potent.....the promotion of wedge issues that divide this country.

To quote KO "When do you cease to become a Democrat when you start citing Karl Rove?"

That the Democrats haven't won that demographic group since 1964. Why are we even talking about the sub-90 IQ demographic anyway?

I KY they only came out for Hillary because they wanted to make sure "that black gentleman" (those probably aren't the actual words they used) didn't win it. There's no way they would have voted for her in the general election with a bona fide war hero -- you know, a white one, to vote for.

We have won elections without the sub-90 IQ demographic on our side, and the elections we lose were not lost because of them.

i had to turn the tv off for awhile i got so mad. i sent email to msnbc because 4 states like mine WA didn't count our popular vote while Obama won, so how the heck can she say she is ahead? and by the way msm at least talk about it...i was so mad...

and about what you said, i said the same to my husband, how can she be proud the dumb people want her, and people who are smart and know whats going on want him...shit are we a backwards country or what?

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Yeah, isn't it funny, I'm the product of a single mother who once had to go on welfare. But because I have two college degrees and what I consider to be a good job (even if it doesn't cross that magic $50K threshold the media tell me it has to in order for me not to be considered a "low income" voter), I am now a latte-sipping elitist. Oh, and I am also too young a woman to understand how Hillary Clinton represents everything women have been fighting for, and to show that I truly appreciate it by believing she should have the nomination handed to her. (Not really. But I fail to see how riding one's husband's coattails qualifies one as a feminist pioneer.)

part of your resume. A real problem with it. Always have....but that got swept under the rug. I'm a real feminist, not a poser.

I loved Hillary Clinton a year ago but she has seriously pissed me off. She has thrown my race and my sex under the bus and ran it over twice. It has nothing to do with who she is, it has everything to do with what she has done.

pundit class and that ass Pat Buchanan keep saying that Obama has a problem with this demographic!

Say what? This stupid demographic has a problem with Obama over something he can do nothing about.

They're now couching 'the problem' as culture, referring to good church going folks who work with their hands. Bullshit. Pull out your history books or even better, archival film footage of the civil rights movement and you'll see those so-called good people displaying pure, unmitigated and often violent hatred toward others SOLELY because of race.

It may be less overt today but we all know the truth; it's fucking racism and the Clintons have been stoking the flames.

BTW, these are the same assholes who believed Bush's bullshit and still think Iraq attacked us on 9/11.

Fuck them and fuck the Clintons.

as opposed to saying 67% of Oregonians DO go to church. :wtf:

How dare you speak the truth. I thought you were better than that. I prefer to wallow in my own ignorance while I cast my vote against the darkie.

La la la la la la, I can't hear you!!! *plugs ears*

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...welcome to the Middle Ages.

I am a white, working class Pennsylvanian. My near kin on my mother's side are from western PA. Was it my four years of college that made me go for Obama? (Or probably my having soaked up politics from the placenta--no lie, I was born a little premature in September 1972 and refer to it as "coming out early for McGovern". My earliest political memory was sitting on my daddy's lap in front of the little black and white kitchen tv while the 1976 election returns came in. "Do you see that Jenny? Carter's our new president. He's a nerd." So help me. That's what I recall. I was entranced during the Iran-Contra hearings, and went from there to learn post-facto about Watergate and realized the GOP was *all* like that, and became, in my teens, a left-libertarian conspiracy theorist. As I told a pollster over the phone when I was eighteen--vis a vis Ernie Preate--you need to be from Philadelphia to know why I disliked him then--"I can't vote for a Republican--they're wrong on everything and mostly corrupt.") I don't count.

My husband is the son of Italian immigrants, working class. He's a meatcutter. He's also one of the most open-minded, liberal, tolerant people I know. He's a lifelong Democrat. Also four years of college he worked, part-time, retail, long hours, to afford. He went for Obama. He doesn't count.

We'd both be naturals for what the Clinton campaign considers their winning demographic, hard-working whites--but for our B.A.'s. Which seem to have made us B.O.'s. We may be just this close to broke and European-American as they come--but we wonder if having been politically involved from the word "jump" and educated--(not just college, but through all our on-line reading--like at DU, Buzzflash, etc), we just picked up somehing about Obama's qualities that were not necessarily clear to some onthers we knew. Saw where he was doing something very right and that we could really get behind. We aren't elitists--from our little rowhouse in Philadelphia and with our little cars? With our customer service jobs and preference for beer & pizza to chardonnay and squab? I identify with working class people, with labor (we're both union members) and I am deeply concerned about health care because of my father being disabled, and because my mom was a nurse. My husband's parents are elderly, so we care about social security. We're not dumb about "real people" issues, we're living them. And even though he's the "newer" guy--we think Obama will try to do more about the things we care about. He has clear vision about how things work. And I think he'll surround himself with people of the same ethos.

I have heard people I grew up with say a sad rhyme--"McCain isn't the right man, but he's the white man". I don't like this. That anybody considers supporting someone not because they agree with them, but because they look like them, is obscene to me. I think Obama resembles me, not on the outside, but the inside--we are progressive Democrats and want things to change for the better--that's what matters to me. McCain may have a similar heritage to mine--but our ideologies diverged a long way ago.

I guess this is rambling--but I find it hard to say that "Identity" is always a representing factor in one's politics. The pesonal is, can be, and I think, should be the personal, and people should look at where the government will work--well! and work for them, and work for their community--not just for themselves as an identifier of ethnicity, religion or economic class, but in the more operative sense of doing the things we ask of it, and keeping off our backs, otherwise. But that's my own opinion.