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ballsalicious Donating Member (313 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 10:58 PM
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If 1 of 5 voters will only vote for a 'white' person... are 20% of Hillary's voters racist?
Edited on Tue May-20-08 11:05 PM by ballsalicious
if this is true... why is everybody afraid to call it what it is?

Why is it, a CNN 'News' host can actually say 'exit polls tell us that 1 in 5 voters in Kentucky will only vote for a white person' and not say that this is the 'racist' vote? what else could it be?

:shrug:
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 10:59 PM
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1. I don't think 1 in 5 in general are racist, but certainly about 1 in 5 of her voters in
some Appalachian states are racists.
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virtualobserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 11:00 PM
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2. it is an unacceptable truth
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 11:00 PM
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3. if it is true
Edited on Tue May-20-08 11:01 PM by MonkeyFunk
then it's been true of democratic voters forever. They voted for Gore, and Kerry, and Bill Clinton.

Why is it Hillary's fault now?
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virtualobserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 11:09 PM
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11. it isn't her fault that they are racist, but it isn't an argument for her nomination....
that these voters are voting in the primary for her.
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Bicoastal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 11:16 PM
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17. Because she's using them as a bargaining chip.
She and her surrogates have gone on and on with this point recently: "An awful lot of white Democrats won't vote for a black man. That's why I'm the better candidate for the GE."

It's never been an issue before, because a black candidate has never gotten this far before.

I'd rather ignore and lose the racist vote--and possibly the election itself--than try to appease them by nominating a white candidate with a Southern husband.
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Carolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 11:53 PM
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20. not her fault, but she is surely stoking those flames
and BTW, may of those racists voted for Bush and in the GE, will go for McCain regardless of who the Dem nominee is.
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Hansel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 11:00 PM
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4. 20% of Hillary's voters are Republicans. nt
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Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 11:01 PM
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5. if they will only vote for a white person, then yeah, they are fucking racists - period. -eom
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 11:01 PM
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6. yes, 20% or more of Hillary's voters are racists
many of those are Republicans, too
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 11:02 PM
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7. Because white folks have worked for decades now to make sure...
that no white person is ever called racist again. They reinforce each other *excellently*.

And of course, that 1 in 5 is just the ones that could look the pollster in the eye and admit it.
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angee_is_mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 11:07 PM
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8. YEP!!!!
that is it in a nutshell. Most of the pundits are white and they are uncomfortable with the subject and would rather fish for other reasons to explain the votes. The random black person on the news shows want to appear mainstream and not appear to be laying out the race card. But you better believe that it is being discussed on black radio.
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JeanGrey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 11:08 PM
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9. Of course. That is obvious. And here we thought that
Edited on Tue May-20-08 11:08 PM by JeanGrey
democrats were never racist. We've learned a lot about ourselves, haven't we? And not for the good.
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 11:08 PM
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10. A shockingly high percentage of simply Americans are racist.
It would make sense (no reflection on her, their choice) that she would attract more just because she's white.
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candice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 11:09 PM
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12. Isn't the voting along racial lines mostly concentrated in AA voters?
What else can a 90% plus vote for someone with half-African genes be accounted for? They aren't part of the latte elite.
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FredScuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 11:12 PM
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15. THE DIFFERENCE: Those AA voters voted for white Democratic candidates in every previous election
I can guarantee you Hillary's 20% bloc of race-minded white voters would rather drink their own urine than vote for a candidate of color
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 11:10 PM
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13. and the majority of whites voted for Obama in Oregon
different water in the taps maybe?
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Hoof Hearted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 11:10 PM
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14. Fallacy by bullshit starting point.
FAIL.
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 11:16 PM
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16. Are 9 out of 10 AA who vote for Obama racists?
:shrug:

Same lame question..........
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NJObamaWoman Donating Member (572 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 11:58 PM
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22. not the same. Get back to us when those people have a long history of voting for
people who aren't their precious lily white race.

Theirs a big difference between that black vote because originally hilary had the black vote.
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 12:03 AM
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23. Your comparison is incomplete. So no, it's not the same.
The equivalent would have to be African Americans who would refuse to vote for ANY white candidate. You would have to be specifying blacks who would ONLY vote for a black candidate.

So, your point is moot.
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oviedodem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 08:15 AM
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27. here is the problem with your argument; it would NEVER be 28% of AA that would vote
Edited on Wed May-21-08 08:15 AM by oviedodem
for McCain more like -0.4%
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polticalpout Donating Member (269 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 11:20 PM
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18. it's an exit poll, take it with a grain of salt and save the lables
What % of blacks voting for Obama will only vote for a black person? What % of whites will only vote for a white person? What % of woman will only vote for a woman? What % of men will only vote for men?


We don't know, bad question based on exit polls and worse conclusion by the OP.
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truthpusher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 08:00 AM
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24. so black folks have never voted for a president?
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Two Americas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 11:50 PM
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19. 5 of 5
5 of 5 white Americans harbor racist ideas to one extent or another. It takes different forms.

What I have found in the South is that people are more honest. I hear overt expressions of racism, and also the strongest and most courageous opponents of racism there.

Northerners are good at euphemisms and benign neglect, at paternalism and tokenism, at constructing and defending institutional and subtle and de facto racial barriers.

I heard Dick Gregory describe the difference between the North and the South this way: "Down South they don't care how close I get, so long as I don't get too big. Up North they don't care how big I get, so long as I don't get too close."
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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 11:54 PM
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21. I believe that the outcome of an Obama/McCain
Edited on Tue May-20-08 11:54 PM by LibDemAlways
contest will be determined along racial lines depending on whether there are more voters who put their racism aside and vote in their own best interest or let their racism get in the way and vote McCain.

I personally know a couple of white seniors, lifelong Dems, who will not vote for Obama because of his race. It's ugly, and it's wrong, but it is what it is.

One thing is for certain about an Obama nomination. We'll either learn just how far we've come as a nation in bridging the racial divide, or how far we still have to go.
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Chalco Donating Member (817 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 08:13 AM
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25. There you go, play the race card. Great campaign strategy!
Edited on Wed May-21-08 08:13 AM by Chalco
:sarcasm: :sarcasm::sarcasm:
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 08:14 AM
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26. those voters never vote for the Democratic nominee for president in the fall!
We never get those racists. They may vote in the Dem primary, but they have no intention to voting Dem in the November presidential election.
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LucyParsons Donating Member (938 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 08:17 AM
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28. Being from Texas, yes, I can believe that
My 82-year-old grandfather was making racist comments the whole time while we were on a family vacation this past weekend.

"Let me tell ya, if that Obama gets in there, we're in big trouble."

"I think that Michelle Obama is a nasty piece of work; she's racist, you can just tell."

"These n*****s need to pull their pants up - no, I will not shut up, I don't CARE who hears me."

Etc.

::::sigh::::

The positive side is, having grown up totally surrounded by this type of culture, I turned out to be a feminist, atheist socialist.

Go figure.
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