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jordi_fanclub Donating Member (388 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 11:42 PM
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HRC debt watch: FEC filling is out!
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 11:42 PM
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1. not loading
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WA98296 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 11:43 PM
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2. I think what they are showing are the contributions
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Orangepeel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 11:44 PM
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5. Hah!
That will be hilarious until they fix it!

:D
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NewHampshireDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 11:43 PM
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3. When I click on the link on the page you linked to I get nothing!
:shrug:
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rsmith6621 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 11:45 PM
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10. Just Like Hillary



you get nothing
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 11:58 PM
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31. I would say just like Obama.
You only get empty platitudes.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 11:43 PM
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its not you its blank
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 11:44 PM
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7. hi grantcart: someone said in another thread she didn't file on time...is that true?
anyone know?
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 11:46 PM
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15. don't know if it is a filing problem or a problem with FEC site
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mcctatas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 11:45 PM
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13. ...
I'm sure this is illustrative of something with the HRC campaign, I just can't think of what;)

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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 11:43 PM
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4. there's nothing there at this time
I click hillary's link and there's nothing at the link
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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 11:44 PM
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6. Hillary's won't show up, but everyone elses does
The page reporting Hillary's numbers won't load.
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 11:44 PM
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8. here's what one kossack posted
6. Cash on Hand at BEGINNING of the Reporting Period 31711745.93

7. Total Receipts This Period 26911626.98

8. Subtotal (6 + 7) 58623372.91

9. Total Disbursements This Period 28956919.81

10. Cash on Hand at CLOSE of the Reporting Period 29666453.10

11. Debts and Obligations Owed TO the Committee 0.00

Itemize all on SCHEDULE C or SCHEDULE D

12. Debts and Obligations Owed BY the Committee 19480893.26

Itemize all on SCHEDULE C or SCHEDULE D

13. Expenditures Subject To Limitation 0.00

14. NET Contributions (Other than Loans) 193492741.31

15. NET Operating Expenditures 185147033.59

$5 mill of receipts = loan from the candidate

31.4million in debt.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 11:46 PM
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14. Where is that coming from and why doesn't it show up on the official link?
This is weird.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 11:51 PM
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Also, how much of cash on hand is for the general?
And didn't she loan her campaign $11 million by now?
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 11:45 PM
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9. I don't think she submitted yet, folks.
I don't know how else to interpret the blank link.

Dodd was the other hold-out, but now his comes up just fine.

Any other ideas what this might mean?
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 11:45 PM
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11. Nice post and link, there, pal.
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WA98296 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 11:45 PM
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12. What will the FEC fine her for this?
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 11:49 PM
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16. Last month when her filing didn't show up
by the deadline (on the site at least - I don't know how long it takes for them to post it) people were speculating that she would just pay the fine and wait until after the primary to submit it, because she didn't want her debt to be an issue before the primary.

But it did eventually appear.

I seem to recall that he debt showed $10 mil, and I just went back and looked at an amended filing, which shows her debt was actually at $15 mil.


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WA98296 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 11:51 PM
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17. How long did it take to appear? thanks.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 11:57 PM
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29. I honestly don't remember if they showed up
before I went to bed or not.

But they're up now -- http://query.nictusa.com/cgi-bin/dcdev/forms/C00431569/336283
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 11:51 PM
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18. I can get Obama's numbers but not Clintons. n/t
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 11:52 PM
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19. It has a nice title but no substance
which is no irony.
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 11:55 PM
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23. Here it is....
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 11:56 PM
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26. I downloaded it for you guys and took a screenshot.
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 11:57 PM
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28. I took a screenshot!!!!
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Hutzpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 11:54 PM
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20. for some mysterious
Edited on Tue May-20-08 11:54 PM by spokane
reason Hillary Clintons page is not loading <page cannot be found>

amazing....:eyes:
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Hamlette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 11:55 PM
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24. it is loading now
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redstate_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 11:54 PM
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21. hmmmm
Not Found
The requested URL was not found on this server.
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doublethink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 11:55 PM
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22. UPDATE ......
now it comes up with this ......

Not Found


The requested URL was not found on this server.

:rofl: just because the Hillary campaign is such a train wreck.
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RL3AO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 11:55 PM
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25. Its up now.
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msallied Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 11:57 PM
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27. Over 19 Million OWED. Ouuuuuuuch.
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JackBeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 11:59 PM
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32. Compared to Obama's 2 million.
Ouch, indeed.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 12:01 AM
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33. Plus the $10 million she owes herself.
I think.
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msallied Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 12:02 AM
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35. Oh so that's where the 30 million comes from?
Jesus..... I feel like vomiting. All of that money. And for WHAT?
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 12:04 AM
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37. And the scary thing is her cash on hand must include a lot of general election money.
These are going to be tough debts for the Dems to pay off on her behalf.
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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 12:11 AM
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42. Yeah, I wish they would show how much.
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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 12:07 AM
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40. No, I think that's included. Mittens owes $44m, which is about the amount he loaned himself
Can you believe that shit? $44 MILLION? He makes Hillary look a model of financial thrift...
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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 12:05 AM
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38. $10 million of that is her loans to herself...but $9 million still owed to others
Looks like she'll break even by the end of the campaign though.
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NewHampshireDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 11:58 PM
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30. It's up now ... n/t
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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 12:01 AM
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34. Who does the Washington DC establishment support?
For this latest reporting period:

Hillary Clinton

District of Columbia $7,709,576.28

Barack Obama

District of Columbia $582,482.17

The DC establishment is keeping this thing going.
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doublethink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 12:04 AM
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36.  Debts By Vendor
Penn, Schoen & Berland Assoc. LLC $4,825,911.61

no surprise there geesh ..... :eyes:
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bhikkhu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 12:06 AM
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39. So...30 Million total debt, 29 million cash on hand?
Edited on Wed May-21-08 12:06 AM by bhikkhu
If I am summarizing correctly?
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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 12:10 AM
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41. No. $9m external debt, $10m in self-loans.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 12:58 AM
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43. I don't think the self-loans are counted
I think that other $10mil is what she DIDN'T raise last month.

:headbang:
rocknation
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bhikkhu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 01:13 AM
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44. Good enough, and thanks for the correction.
The cash flow for April is a bit scary. looking at that now...
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