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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 11:47 AM
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$22,000,000 that could have been used against the Republicans- WASTED
You know as a rule of thumb, I rarely donate in the primaries (and if I do it's a small ammount). I prefer to have my money spent on taking down the GOP and ending their reign of terror and destruction. Now it's very troubling to learn that Hillary raised 22 million dollars on a lost cause. Imagine how much good that could have done if it had gone to the DNC or the DCC or Obama. It's very troubling to see Democrat's money being squandered away like this.
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DrDan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 12:02 PM
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1. huh?
you don't think we should have challengers in the primaries?

What about the millions Kerry "squandered" in his losing cause in 2004?

It is troubling that you would put so much trust in your hindsight.
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 12:17 PM
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3. I think once you have no chance to win, you need to suspend or drop out
so money isn't wasted.
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DrDan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 12:38 PM
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16. some would argue that you stay in til the end
do you end a football game at 59 minutes if down 2 touchdowns?.

and - I guess it would be their call as to whether the money is wasted or not . . . .
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 12:44 PM
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18. In that anology you pull your starters once the game is decided
The starters don't play the full 60 minutes, in a blow out. You save them for the next game.
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wileedog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 12:45 PM
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19. No, but you take out your star players so they don't get hurt, don't you?
So they are rested, healthy and ready for the next game, which is the much more important one in this case.
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knixphan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 12:46 PM
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20. agreed
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 12:04 PM
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2. Yeap, and she's STILL in dept. I pray for her mental health, I think she's losing it.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 12:20 PM
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4. No. Not all of that is wasted. Keep in mind that plenty of that was spent promoting her ideas--and
that helps all Democrats. The dollars spent buying Mark Penn an extra chin were wasted, sure--but the dollars spent reminding people about the economy, health care, and Iraq were not.
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 12:24 PM
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7. Seriously though, how much of that "free media" was positive?
Edited on Wed May-21-08 12:26 PM by 48percenter
It was either about Pastorgate, Sweetiegate, Pantsuitgate, Tuzlagate...you name the -gate.

How does that really help us in the GE?

:eyes:

Edit: sorry I meant to respond to (doh) ShaneGR. :crazy: It's been a long day.
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 12:29 PM
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10. The polls would indicate the extended race was not helpful
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 12:33 PM
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13. are you saying
the polls indicate that the extended race WAS helpful?

I will say that Obama has emerged as a stronger candidate having survived the Clinton machine. But I can't wait to see what the GOP cherry picks for the GE attack ads. :eyes:
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 12:35 PM
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14. Obama's numbers in the GE polls didn't start to rise until AFTER
he was declared the winner by the MSM.
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 01:55 PM
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21. gotcha, it's been a long afternoon
Edited on Wed May-21-08 01:55 PM by 48percenter
and I've been studying English grammar, my brain has turned to a pile of goo, I can't even read anymore. :crazy:
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ShaneGR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 12:21 PM
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5. If you add up all the free media Obama & Clinton have gotten by extending the season....
22 million is a huge bargain. Just my 2 cents.
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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 12:27 PM
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9. That's the thing....look how many people are voting
this late .. look at all of the Democratic registrations .. the interest.

It's a huge bargain when you look at it that way .. especially if it leads to a win in November.
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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 12:21 PM
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6. Nomad, you don't get to decide how Hillary spends her
money -- Hillary and her supporters are in charge.

It's very troubling to see this much money spent in any election by either candidate.

But now you're throwing in the guilt trip.

Boy you don't quit.

I can't wait for the next primary date in June.
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 12:26 PM
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8. Yeah imagine caring about winning the White House and solidifying the Congressional majority
How dare I!:eyes:
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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 12:29 PM
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11. Oh please, if that's not accomplished, it will not be
because of how much money Hillary is spending on her own campaign and how long she's staying in.

As someone else wrote, look at how much good this primary is doing as a whole.
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 12:32 PM
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12. Your argument is that money for Democratic campaigns is an unlimited resource
I don't agree with that.
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briv1016 Donating Member (407 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 12:36 PM
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15. If it costs $22 million to get the last few potential Hillary crossovers, I think it is a bargain.
That’s why I still believe we should let this go till June 4th. For the remaining crossovers.
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smiley_glad_hands Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 12:39 PM
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17. Waste of money and time. eom
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