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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 05:16 PM
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David Gergen Video: Hillary should reject racist voters
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FredScuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 05:19 PM
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1. Reject her "base?" After she's spent so much time and effort appealing to their basest emotion?
Never!



Gergen was 100% dead-on.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 05:23 PM
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2. So should Obama. It works both ways. nt
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 05:29 PM
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4. Yep.........
64% white vote for Hillary = uneducated, racists hillbillies

91% AA vote for Obama = racial pride

:crazy:
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 05:44 PM
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7. That's the biggest load of BS some Hillary supporters are spouting
Edited on Wed May-21-08 05:46 PM by RamboLiberal
You should be hanging your heads in shame at that one!
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 06:08 PM
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8. Hey, I'm a proud Doug Wilder voter AND Mookie Wilson fan - shut up! nt
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 06:10 PM
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9. Doesn't mean you understand the difference between
Edited on Wed May-21-08 06:11 PM by RamboLiberal
white Dem voters voting Hillary b/c of race and black voters voting for Obama b/c they agree with his positions and he happens to be black.

From an proud female white voter for Obama and as a kid my favorite baseball players were Roberto Clemente & Willie Stargell!

So Shut Up right back at you!
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 06:26 PM
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11. If you feel there is no racism involved...okay.....
Roberto was a great man.

Stargell, he scared the shit outta me just looking at him in the batter's box.

Some black voters are voting for Obama because he's black. For some, it's part of the reason. Some vote for him because he's a man.

Some white voters are voting for Clinton because she's white. For others, it's because she's female.

Eight years in political polling has taught me that no, one group has a monopoloy of being informed, etc. In fact - two of the grops we're talking about here - black voters and female voters, particularly younger female voters - consistently test poorly on awareness of public affairs issues. Being female, that one hurts. So, the idea that black voters have a clearer sense of their best interest in candidates than other voter groups just doesn't work.
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 06:53 PM
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12. Well it seems black voters consistently vote Democratic
while there's a ton of white voters - what some punditry are calling "low information voters" or Reagan Democrats who consistently vote against their own best interests cause of some stupid crap put out by Repukes like flag pins, he's a Muslim, Swiftboating, flip-flopper, serial liar, or one-issue like pro-life, guns, tax and spend, etc.

At least black voters have the sense to vote in their own self-interest and the countries while "hard-working blue collar" whites don't. What's the matter with Kansas could be what's the matter with Applachia. BTW, it was shown last night that this same demographic voted in the same or greater numbers against Kerry in 2004 and against Gore in 2000. I don't buy a lot of them would vote Hillary in the fall after the Repukes run their attacks.
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 05:43 PM
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6. Most blacks voting for Obama isn't because of racism
They've voted in the past against black candidates and for the white candidate.

That particular talking point is BS!
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global1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 05:26 PM
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3. I Saw This Yesterday Live On CNN And Was Hoping Someone Would Post......
this clip. I think Gergen is 'spot on' on this issue and if Hilliary was any kind of good Dem she would do exactly what Gergen is suggesting.
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GoesTo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 05:30 PM
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5. "If you want to vote against him because he’s black, I don’t want your vote"
Those are the words David Gergen suggested she say.

Damn right she should say that. Exactly that.

Gergen points out that more than 25% of her voters in KY said race influenced their decision.

Why won't she say it? It's easy.

Why has she been comfortable winking at these people (them plus Rush Limbaugh fans)?

This is very disturbing to me.
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 06:12 PM
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10. Didn't John Edwards say something like
if you're voting for me cause you can't vote for a black or a woman, I don't want your vote? I saw reference to it but couldn't find the exact quote.
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 07:18 PM
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13. David Gergen is absolutely correct, imo
It would really say something if Senator Clinton were to do as Mr. Gergen suggested and it is, frankly, something that is very much needed at this point in the primary.

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