Maddow: We're On A 10-Day Suicide Watch for the Democratic Party. Obama Needs 90 SDs ..

or this goes to the convention.

Her premise is this: Once the meeting is held on the 31st, Hillary can and will appeal any decision and said appeal will go all the way through the summer and through the convention.

ON EDIT: Later in the show, Maddow stated that "nothing can be resolved until the Credentials Committee meets in August" once FL and MI situation is broached.

Can anyone back this up? Although I've never known Dr. Maddow, Rhodes Scholar, to be wrong.

As I said yesterday, we need to start calling, lobbying, visiting SDs en masse. We are headed for a shitstorm, the likes of which we've never seen.

Today, Hillary compared FL and MI to Election 2000 Disenfranchisement of FL. In Florida. Is there no way to stop her?

Today, her Chief Strategist, Geoff Garin, said "She continues until one of them reaches the magic number." Ninety SDs could end it. Today.

my take is that the SDs are going to slowly build obamas numbers and let a primary win put him over
then she can say whatever she wants
she has lost all credibility with the party bigs and will find it hard to get support in her senate run in 2010
look for her to retire before 2010 to"spend more time with bill and chelsea"

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There was obvious strong dislike, and a factual error,
but there was no hate.

You're "projecting" again.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection

Tesha

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I don't believe there will be a convention fight.

With regard to contacting superdelegates, I'd suggest waiting a week after the last primary (which is June 3) to see if that is really needed.

changes the number of the counts to include FL and MI...and the same words are said... wait for this, wait for that...this should be done now..

The time to move is now! :rant:

who will also not be re elected
she supports republicans and refuses to give aid to dems in neighboring districts running against her republican friends

its even in her wiki

Everything is in the hands of the party leadership. It is their decision. Watch McCain win and the democratic party die. Or accept the near term shitstrom and endorse Obama NOW.

...also vote in November, including new voters.

The insane BS Hillary is now spewing in FLA is extremely dangerous, and has to be stopped, NOW!

Obama has the majority of pledged delegates to win this. Is June 3rd going to give Obama the needed 2025 delegate count?

So if BO hit the magic number of SD's needed now it would be 2026. Later it would be higher depending on how they choose to seat the delegates and how they divide them. If HRC gets her way then FL & MI will be seated without any adjustments, giving her all the MI delegates and BO none since he wasn't on the ticket. This is enough to drive anyone nuts. They need to end it now.

They would need a magician to pull it off.

...it's over.

Then the Supers that HRC used to say were important will have made it clear that they won't overrule the millions of new voters Obama has brought in to the fold.

I heard the interview with Lehrer yesterday. As Chair of the Convention, she said she has to remain neutral.

That's right, the SD's, just as it has been stated in the rules from the get go. If there were no SD's, Hillary would have already lost due to the pledged delegate majority held by Obama. The "House of Lords" is her only chance to win, better treat the Lords nicely.

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Just thought you should know--one of mine disappeared.

and tell your state SDs to end this! I discovered today that the Hillary supporters have been sending their SDs far more emails, etc. than the Obama supporters! Get busy!

I think it has 185 members, approximately 30 of which are chosen by Howard Dean.

What is the "magic number"? Ten to one when Garin talks about continuing until one of them hits the magic number, he's talking about a number that assumes Michigan and Florida count.

If they did nothing to help Al Gore. They were actively working against Gore and with the Wu Tu Tang Clan known as the Bushes IMHO, just to get to the 2008 nomination.

Their lack of involvement "involvement" has made them rich and has almost broken what is left of our tattered democracy. They are out for blood with this nomination. Literally. They are dangerous.

amazing isn't it?

wu-tang 4 lif!!!

if O gets 75 supes by then

He has to win by the 31st or that is it for the democrats.

And I WILL blame Pelosi! SHE can stop this!

I agree, Hillary will take this to the convention. We need to stop her.

I'm no genius like Maddow, but even I can see that....

The SD's must know it too.

I think part of the problem is they are individuals...

I don't think they meet and confer regularly... although they're connected to what's going on... in communication with the campaigns and the other Party members...

They still act separately...

I see no reason why they have to protract this. They are in no real risk of losing anything by coming forth.

purpose. We already know the "be nice, graceful exit" meme was bullshit. A trap that we fell into.

we all hit the streets in mass, from every city in every state, just leave, work, school, houses and go to the streets...with signs, with what ever the hell it takes.

I have written and called my senators and to do more won't do any good.

and if that doesn't work we all go to denver by the millions and line up in the streets.......

Puerto Rico has 55 -- and lets imagine he gets half -- 27 then he needs only 34 super-delegates within the next 10 days.

I thought the "Pelosi Club" includeded 8-10 superdelegates who agreed that they would cast their vote for whichever nominee earned the majority of pledged delegates, so that means that 34-8 = 26.

Obama needs 26 super-delegates to emerge from behind the curtain in the next 10 days that is totally doable.

contention was that if the Rules Committee starts this MI and FL process, Hillary will appeal to the Credentials Committee which doesn't seat until August.

The argument is the ONLY way to stop this from happening is to settle the nomination PRIOR to the 31st.. IOW, to get Obama the SDs needed to give him 2025 BEFORE May 31st, which would exclude waiting for the rest of the states to vote.

if he needs them before May 31st then they will all have to be superdelegates because there isn't another primary until June 1st - okay.

If the "Pelosi Club" announces their supporter for Obama because he has the majority of pledged delegates then that would mean that he needs only 52-53 more superdelegates.

We should contact SDs and encourage them to commit - do you have a list? There are 206 superdelegates who still haven't announced.

It's an unruly list.. each person would have to look up phone numbers, emails, etc.

http://demconwatch.blogspot.com/2008/01/superdelegates-who-havent-endorsed.html

Representatives
Bud Cramer (AL)
Gabrielle Giffords (AZ)
Nancy Pelosi (CA)
Jerry McNerney (CA)
Mike Honda (CA)
Sam Farr (CA)
Jim Costa (CA)
Bob Filner (CA)
Susan Davis (CA)
Mark Udall (CO)
John Salazar (CO)
Allen Boyd (FL)
Tim Mahoney (FL)
Ron Klein (FL)
Jim Marshall (GA)
Rahm Emanuel (IL)
Nancy Boyda (KS)
Dennis Moore (KS)
William Jefferson (LA)
Charlie Melancon (LA)
Don Cazayoux (LA)
Rep. Michael Michaud (ME)
John Sarbanes (MD)
Steny Hoyer (MD)
Chris Van Hollen (MD)
John Olver (MA)
Niki Tsongas (MA)
John Tierney (MA)
Edward Markey (MA)
Carolyn Cheeks Kilpatrick (MI)
Rep. Bart Stupak (MI)
Collin Peterson (MN)
Gene Taylor (MS)
Rep. Travis Childers (MS)
Rep. Rush Holt (NJ)
Rep. Bob Etheridge (NC)
Rep. Mike McIntyre (NC)
Rep. Tom Udall (NM)
Charlie Wilson (OH)
Marcia Kaptur (OH)
Rep. Zack Space (OH)
Rep. Dennis Kucinich (OH)
Rep. Dan Boren (OK)
Bob Brady (PA)
Jason Altmire (PA)
Tim Holden (PA)
Rep. Mike Doyle (PA)
John Spratt (SC)
Rep. Jim Clyburn (SC)
Lincoln Davis (TN)
Bart Gordon (TN)
Nick Lampson (TX)
Jim Matheson (UT)
Alan Mollohan (WV)

Distinguished Party
Leaders (DPLs)

Jimmy Carter (GA)
Al Gore (TN)
Fmr. Senator and Majority Leader
George Mitchell (NY)
Fmr. DNC Chair Bob Strauss (TX)



Senators
Ken Salazar (CO)
Joe Biden (DE)
Tom Carper (DE)
Tom Harkin (IA)
Mary Landrieu (LA)
Ben Cardin (MD)
Carl Levin (MI)
Max Baucus (MT)
Jon Tester (MT)
Harry Reid (NV)
Frank Lautenberg (NJ)
Sherrod Brown (OH)
Ron Wyden (OR)
Jack Reed (RI)
Jim Webb (VA)
Herb Kohl (WI)


Governors
Bill Ritter (CO)
Steve Beshear (KY)
Brian Schweitzer (MT)
John Lynch (NH)
Phil Bredeson (TN)
Joe Manchin (WV)

Add-Ons
Terry Goddard (AZ)#
Alex Sink (FL)#
Steve Geller (FL)#
Jay Nixon (MO)#
Rusty McAllister (NV)#
Jerry Lee (TN)#

37 Unnamed Add-Ons,
including 2 from Michigan

DNC Members
Joe Turnham (AL)
Nancy Worley (AL)
Don Bivens (AZ)
Lottie Shackleford (AR)
Art Torres (CA)
Hon. Carole Migden (CA)
Bob Mulholland (CA)
Christine Pelosi (CA)
Robert Rankin (CA)
Steve Ybarra (CA)
John Perez (CA)
Pat Waak (CO)
Nancy DiNardo (CT)
Donna Brazile (DC)
Christine Warnke (DC)
John Daniello (DE)
Harriet Smith-Windsor (DE)
Karen Thurman (FL)
Rudolph Parker (FL)
Terrie Brady (FL)
Mitchell Ceasar (FL)
Diane Glasser (FL)
Janee Murphy (FL)
Jon Ausman (FL)
Andrew Tobias (FL)
Richard Ray (GA)
Pilar Lujan (GU)
Ben Pangelinan (GU)
Chair - Vacant (HI)
Vice-Chair - Vacant (HI)
Edward Smith (IL)
Vacant (IL)
Helen Knetzer (KS)
Jennifer Moore (KY)
Nathan Smith (KY)
Chris Whittington (LA)
Claude "Buddy" Leach (LA)
Elsie Burkhalter (LA)
Sam Spencer (ME)
Jennifer DeChant (ME)
Hon. Heather Mizeur (MD)
Susan Turnbull (MD)
John Sweeney (MD)
Belkis Leong-Hong (MD)
Debra Kozikowski (MA)
James Roosevelt Jr (MA)
Arthenia Abbott (MI)
Elizabeth Bunn (MI)
Debbie Dingell (MI)
Joyce Lalonde (MI)
Jeffrey Radjewski (MI)
Michael Tardiff (MI)
Richard Wiener (MI)
Mark Brewer (MI)
Lu Battaglieri (MI)
Hon. Kwame Kilpatrick (MI)
Mayor Brenda Lawrence (MI)
Richard Shoemaker (MI)

DNC Members (cont'd)
Carnelia Pettis Fondren (MS)
John Temporiti (MO)
Yolanda Wheat (MO)
Leila Medley (MO)
Hon. Robin Carnahan (MO)
Hon. Maria Chappelle-Nadal (MO)
Dennis McDonald (MT)
Margarett Campbell (MT)
Sam Lieberman (NV)
Hon. Yvonne Gates (NV)
Hon. Catherine Cortez Masto (NV)
Philip D. Murphy (NJ)
Raymond Buckley (NH)
Irene Stein (NY)
Ralph Dawson (NY)
David Parker (NC)
Muriel Offerman (NC)
Carol Peterson (NC)
David Strauss (ND)
Hon. Chris Redfern (OH)
Ronald Malone (OH)
Patricia Moss (OH)
Hon. Joyce Beatty (OH)
Ivan Holmes (OK)
Jim Frasier (OK)
Jay Parmley (OK)
Meredith Woods-Smith (OR)
Frank Dixon (OR)
Jenny Greenleaf (OR)
Wayne Kinney (OR)
Gail Rasmussen (OR)
Hon. Bill Bradbury (OR)
Eliseo Roques-Arroyo (PR)
Hon. Gilda Cobb-Hunter (SC)
Cheryl Chapman (SD)
Gray Sasser (TN)
Dr. Inez Crutchfield (TN)
Boyd Richie (TX)
David Hardt (TX
Denise Johnson (TX)
Betty Richie (TX)
Linda Chavez -Thompson (TX)
Helen Langan (UT)
Jim Leaman (VA)
C Richard Cranwell (VA)
Hon. Alexis Herman (VA)
Jerome Wiley Segovia (VA)
Howard Dean (VT)
Eileen Macoll (WA)
Ed Cote (WA)
Sharon Mast (WA)
David McDonald (WA)
Nick Casey Jr. (WV)
Alice Germond (WV)
Paula Zellner (WI)
Nancy Drummond (WY)
Cynthia Nunley (WY)
Marylyn Stapleton (VI)
Vacant - 1 (At-large)
Vacant - 2 (At-large)

I hope everyone contacts their own representaive, at least. I see that mine is on the list. He's a great guy, and I've corresponded with him and even met him before.

can you make an OP of that list? We can keep it bumped and add e-mail addys, phone #s when we find them.

Group Forum tonight.

to make it short, to the point, and factual
dont regress into aggressive language
dont get emotional
if they are in your district the future of your support may be mentioned but try not to be threatening in your tone
they are already hearing threats i think from the other side
basically threats are all she has left
just everyone be cordial and state the case quickly

I strongly feel that the super delegates should just stop endorsing Obama, and wait until June 4th. Right now I think that the numbers are positioned in such a way that Obama can declare he's reached the 2025 mark once the last states have voted, where Obama will score two big wins. That how it needs to end, with the voters declaring him the winner. If the super delegates give him the last few votes he needs then that pisses off Hillary supporters more.

While I'm not 100% certain, I think he could have enough super delegate endorsements to wrap it up June 3rd even if Michigan and Florida are given full votes and Obama gets all the uncommitted Michigan delegates (he definitely has more pledged delegates then Hillary even counting the votes that way, and will likely have more votes to).

Personally I think the DNC rules committee or whatever group it is that's deciding the Michigan and Florida problem on May 31st should just give the states full voting rights (and give Michigan uncommitted's to Obama) to kill one of Hillary's arguments for going on.

has one. Whatever it is, it isn't to go peacefully into that good night.

hilary, m$$$fm, and mccain. But, he's got so many many good savvy peeps working for him and behind him

optimism. We will win.

Right before the Republicans launched a blitz on the divided democrats (War, Anti-war) and winning.

four more bushit years later. And thanks to Dean we have much better Democratic infrastructure that Obama has benefitted from already in the primaries.

it seems possible...:kick:

and encouraged him to come out for Obama. I hope others do the same.

experience.. will stay uncomitted to the convention.

I HATE TENNESSEE !

is a dumb ass. Sorry, I can't stand that word.

I was born in and lived in the Midwest for the first 12 years of my life, and then I moved East. Supper is SO Midwest. :puke:

This isn't the first time MI did this crap

At least in Florida ALL the candidates were on the ballot

They violated the rules. FL has more of a case the the MI Democratic party

I have always said I would vote for the Democratic nominee whoever it is, however, if they count MI votes when she was the only candidate on the ballot, and she pushes this to the convention, she can go to hell

I am not a fanboy of the democratic party.

didn't promise the DNC anything..only promised the first four states.. and beside, no one needs to campaign in 2008 b/o the internet, so the primary was "legitimate".

Even Matthews mouth dropped open at that.

I just love her... smart, effective, and right!

the party is going to suffer big time if this continues much past June 3rd.

I hope she wrong about it being too late though.

by degrees since 1992.

The real question is, can the Democratic Party overcome the DLC infestation?

sw

That seems obvious...

The death watch stuff does seem over the top. I think she just wants Obama's lead to be insurmountable by the first of June so it is defiantly over and we can all move on to the GE.

Because that's when the SDs register their votes.

This really isn't that big of a deal as long as both candidates tag-team McCain and Hillary puts a muzzle on her husband.

Good lord people the party is over 200 years old and had a convention with 102 ballots, I DOUBT that this is the end of the party.

I swear.

:headbang:

Depending on Hillary Clinton to all of a sudden start acting rationally and do the right thing by our party is an increasingly bad bet. I don't think she will. I don't think she gives a shit. I think she'll be happy to turn this into her own personal crusade; an attempt to avenge all the nebulous "wrongs" that she thinks stole her inevitable nomination, and abso-fucking-lutely she'll keep raising a stink until the Convention.

She's not going to end it, ever. Not of her own volition.

Like, take that quote from Geoff Garin- "she continues until one of them reaches the magic number"... and did he say anything more specifically stating that she wouldn't continue AFTER the magic number? Hahaha, I bet he didn't! And which magic number? Any "magic number" Obama reaches will "magically" change into a NEW magic number. Just watch.

She'll take it to the convention to prove that she has the power to do it.

There are times that you end up getting the short end of the stick trying too hard to give someone the benefit of the doubt, especially if you do it once, then extend your good faith a second time, then a third, and so on. That in itself is a sign.

Democrats are poised to turn this into another defeat because they keep giving HRC reasons and excuses to drag this out.

I fully believe that Hillary will simply use the fairness being shown by the uncommitted superdelegates in waiting to declare until the primaries are over to come up with a way to extend her campaign further. She's using such grandiose, overblown analogies to describe a predicament for which she only has herself to blame that I'm sure she's convinced herself that the convention is a perfectly logical next step from within her 'thought bubble'.

The best case scenario for her out of the R&BC May 31 hearing is the "as-is" seating of MI and FL. If she gets anything less, I agree with Rachel Maddow that she'll appeal and will force everything to be put in limbo until August.

The primaries are not going to end just because the supers declare. Voters can still vote, just as they're still voting for Republicans. But if the Democrats don't want to have the nomination fight dragged out with an appeal on the MI/FL ruling, they're going to have to make it clear before the May 31 hearing that even the best case ruling will be moot.

Seriously I am waiting for her to endorse TODAY so there is enough time for the others to come forward before the 31st. If she can't do that she has NO business holding her seat and I hope her challengers are effective at getting her removed.

announced who they are supporting ?

:eyes:

Nevermind - I found it. Thanks much !

edited to add;

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Portal:Superdelegate_Transparency_Project/Delegate_information_by_state

Representatives
Bud Cramer (AL)
Gabrielle Giffords (AZ)
Nancy Pelosi (CA)
Jerry McNerney (CA)
Mike Honda (CA)
Sam Farr (CA)
Jim Costa (CA)
Bob Filner (CA)
Susan Davis (CA)
Mark Udall (CO)
John Salazar (CO)
Allen Boyd (FL)
Tim Mahoney (FL)
Ron Klein (FL)
Jim Marshall (GA)
Rahm Emanuel (IL)
Nancy Boyda (KS)
Dennis Moore (KS)
William Jefferson (LA)
Charlie Melancon (LA)
Don Cazayoux (LA)
Rep. Michael Michaud (ME)
John Sarbanes (MD)
Steny Hoyer (MD)
Chris Van Hollen (MD)
John Olver (MA)
Niki Tsongas (MA)
John Tierney (MA)
Edward Markey (MA)
Carolyn Cheeks Kilpatrick (MI)
Rep. Bart Stupak (MI)
Collin Peterson (MN)
Gene Taylor (MS)
Rep. Travis Childers (MS)
Rep. Rush Holt (NJ)
Rep. Bob Etheridge (NC)
Rep. Mike McIntyre (NC)
Rep. Tom Udall (NM)
Charlie Wilson (OH)
Marcia Kaptur (OH)
Rep. Zack Space (OH)
Rep. Dennis Kucinich (OH)
Rep. Dan Boren (OK)
Bob Brady (PA)
Jason Altmire (PA)
Tim Holden (PA)
Rep. Mike Doyle (PA)
John Spratt (SC)
Rep. Jim Clyburn (SC)
Lincoln Davis (TN)
Bart Gordon (TN)
Nick Lampson (TX)
Jim Matheson (UT)
Alan Mollohan (WV)

Distinguished Party
Leaders (DPLs)

Jimmy Carter (GA)
Al Gore (TN)
Fmr. Senator and Majority Leader
George Mitchell (NY)
Fmr. DNC Chair Bob Strauss (TX)



Senators
Ken Salazar (CO)
Joe Biden (DE)
Tom Carper (DE)
Tom Harkin (IA)
Mary Landrieu (LA)
Ben Cardin (MD)
Carl Levin (MI)
Max Baucus (MT)
Jon Tester (MT)
Harry Reid (NV)
Frank Lautenberg (NJ)
Sherrod Brown (OH)
Ron Wyden (OR)
Jack Reed (RI)
Jim Webb (VA)
Herb Kohl (WI)


Governors
Bill Ritter (CO)
Steve Beshear (KY)
Brian Schweitzer (MT)
John Lynch (NH)
Phil Bredeson (TN)
Joe Manchin (WV)

Add-Ons
Terry Goddard (AZ)#
Alex Sink (FL)#
Steve Geller (FL)#
Jay Nixon (MO)#
Rusty McAllister (NV)#
Jerry Lee (TN)#

37 Unnamed Add-Ons,
including 2 from Michigan

DNC Members
Joe Turnham (AL)
Nancy Worley (AL)
Don Bivens (AZ)
Lottie Shackleford (AR)
Art Torres (CA)
Hon. Carole Migden (CA)
Bob Mulholland (CA)
Christine Pelosi (CA)
Robert Rankin (CA)
Steve Ybarra (CA)
John Perez (CA)
Pat Waak (CO)
Nancy DiNardo (CT)
Donna Brazile (DC)
Christine Warnke (DC)
John Daniello (DE)
Harriet Smith-Windsor (DE)
Karen Thurman (FL)
Rudolph Parker (FL)
Terrie Brady (FL)
Mitchell Ceasar (FL)
Diane Glasser (FL)
Janee Murphy (FL)
Jon Ausman (FL)
Andrew Tobias (FL)
Richard Ray (GA)
Pilar Lujan (GU)
Ben Pangelinan (GU)
Chair - Vacant (HI)
Vice-Chair - Vacant (HI)
Edward Smith (IL)
Vacant (IL)
Helen Knetzer (KS)
Jennifer Moore (KY)
Nathan Smith (KY)
Chris Whittington (LA)
Claude "Buddy" Leach (LA)
Elsie Burkhalter (LA)
Sam Spencer (ME)
Jennifer DeChant (ME)
Hon. Heather Mizeur (MD)
Susan Turnbull (MD)
John Sweeney (MD)
Belkis Leong-Hong (MD)
Debra Kozikowski (MA)
James Roosevelt Jr (MA)
Arthenia Abbott (MI)
Elizabeth Bunn (MI)
Debbie Dingell (MI)
Joyce Lalonde (MI)
Jeffrey Radjewski (MI)
Michael Tardiff (MI)
Richard Wiener (MI)
Mark Brewer (MI)
Lu Battaglieri (MI)
Hon. Kwame Kilpatrick (MI)
Mayor Brenda Lawrence (MI)
Richard Shoemaker (MI)

DNC Members (cont'd)
Carnelia Pettis Fondren (MS)
John Temporiti (MO)
Yolanda Wheat (MO)
Leila Medley (MO)
Hon. Robin Carnahan (MO)
Hon. Maria Chappelle-Nadal (MO)
Dennis McDonald (MT)
Margarett Campbell (MT)
Sam Lieberman (NV)
Hon. Yvonne Gates (NV)
Hon. Catherine Cortez Masto (NV)
Philip D. Murphy (NJ)
Raymond Buckley (NH)
Irene Stein (NY)
Ralph Dawson (NY)
David Parker (NC)
Muriel Offerman (NC)
Carol Peterson (NC)
David Strauss (ND)
Hon. Chris Redfern (OH)
Ronald Malone (OH)
Patricia Moss (OH)
Hon. Joyce Beatty (OH)
Ivan Holmes (OK)
Jim Frasier (OK)
Jay Parmley (OK)
Meredith Woods-Smith (OR)
Frank Dixon (OR)
Jenny Greenleaf (OR)
Wayne Kinney (OR)
Gail Rasmussen (OR)
Hon. Bill Bradbury (OR)
Eliseo Roques-Arroyo (PR)
Hon. Gilda Cobb-Hunter (SC)
Cheryl Chapman (SD)
Gray Sasser (TN)
Dr. Inez Crutchfield (TN)
Boyd Richie (TX)
David Hardt (TX
Denise Johnson (TX)
Betty Richie (TX)
Linda Chavez -Thompson (TX)
Helen Langan (UT)
Jim Leaman (VA)
C Richard Cranwell (VA)
Hon. Alexis Herman (VA)
Jerome Wiley Segovia (VA)
Howard Dean (VT)
Eileen Macoll (WA)
Ed Cote (WA)
Sharon Mast (WA)
David McDonald (WA)
Nick Casey Jr. (WV)
Alice Germond (WV)
Paula Zellner (WI)
Nancy Drummond (WY)
Cynthia Nunley (WY)
Marylyn Stapleton (VI)
Vacant - 1 (At-large)
Vacant - 2 (At-large)

...that SD's are not ending it by request of the Obama campaign? Because I've been hearing for some time that he's got all the SD's he needs already lined up and is asking them to announce their support at times he sees fit, and this way has been able to keep a steady trickle of positive news timed to when he needs it. Consider John Edwards's endorsement the day after a huge loss in WV. Coincidence?

Maybe, just maybe, he knows what he's doing.

Another, possibly related question: Who is Hillary harming more at this point? The party or herself?

Please e-mail your representative if they are on the list above.