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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 05:47 PM
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Barack Hussein Muhammed(sic) Obama behind Kenya Election fiasco!
This was forwarded to me today. It's as sickening as it is hilarious. I wasn't sure weather to laugh or puke. I posted my response after the e-mail...

-------Original Message------


Subject: Missionaries in Kenya know Obama and his family



It just gets scarier and scarier...~jj



Note: forwarded message attached.



Just to be sure this was an authentic letter from the Davis family, I sent it to them and verified that they actually wrote it. You can trust that it is authentic. I received a personal reply from Celeste Davis. Monte



Thought you'd find this interesting. Celeste and Loren Davis are Missionaries in Africa and can shed some firsthand light on one of our Presidential candidates.

Thanks for sending out an alert about Obama. We are living and working in Kenya for almost twelve years now and know his family (tribe) well. They are the ones who were behind the recent Presidential election chaos here. Thousands of people have been displaced by election violence (over 350,000) and I don't know the last count of the dead. Obama, under 'friends of Obama' gave almost a million dollars to the opposition campaign who just happened to be his cousin, Raila Odinga, who is a socialist trained in east germany . He has been trying to bring Kenya down for years and the last president threw him in prison for trying to subvert this country! December 27th elections brought cries from ODM (Odinga Camp) of rigged election. Obama and Raila speak daily. As we watch Obama rise in the US we are sure that whatever happens, he will use the same tactic, crying rigged election if he doesn 't win, and possibly cause a race war in America .

What we would like you to know is what the American press has been keeping a dirty little secret. Obama IS a muslim and he IS a racist and this is a fullfilllment of the 9-11 threat that was just the beginning. Jihad is the only true muslim way. We have been working with them for 20 years this July! He is not an American as we know it. Please encourage your friends and associates not to be taken in by those that are promoting him. It is world wide jihad. All our friends in Europe are very disturbed by the muslim infiltration into their countries.

By the way, his true name is Barak Hussein Muhammed Obama. Won't that sound sweet to our enemies as they swear him in on the Koran!?

God Bless you.

Pray for us here in Kenya . We are still fighting for our nation to withstand the same kind of assault that every nation, including America , is fighting. Takeover from the outside to fit the new world order. As believers, this means we will be the first targets. Here in Kenya , not one mosque was burned down, but hundreds of churches were burned down, some with people in them, burned alive.

Jesus Christ is our peace, but the new world order of Globalism has infiltrated the church and confused believers into thinking that they can compromise and survive. It won't be so. I will send you a newsletter we sent out in February documenting in a more cohesive manner what I've tried to say in a few paragraphs.

Love, Celeste

Celeste and Loren Davis

About our Father's business!

Luke 2:49b

http://www.lorendavis.com/index.html


My Response:

Hi, I only have two things to say. First, you need to keep away from the sharp objects. Second, If Obama somehow managed to "rig an election and speak daily in Kenya" while being a sitting U.S. Senator, and running a campaign for President then he is without a doubt the most organized person on the planet, just the kind of person we need to rid of of 8 years of neo-con/religious rule.

Ok, one more thing, about: Raila Odinga, who is a socialist trained in east germany . He has been trying to bring Kenya down for years and the last president threw him in prison for trying to subvert this country! Wow you know the last guy to go to jail for his political beliefs in Africa was named Mandela.
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 05:48 PM
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1. ...
:popcorn: :spray:
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 05:50 PM
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3. FreeRepublic is over there------------>>
If you enjoy right wing propaganda you're in the wrong party.
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 05:53 PM
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5. Pay no attention to him/her/it
If he/she/it could put together a cohesive argument in favor of his/her/it's candidate, he/she/it is hiding it very well... and has been for awhile now..

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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 06:33 PM
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43. Get out of the way, I just wanna see the clusterfuck this produces.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 06:47 PM
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53. Unless it's anti-Clinton right-wing propaganda.
Then it gets 100 recommendations here.
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 06:51 PM
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58. Vince Foster!
:popcorn: :spray:
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 05:49 PM
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2. This Is Worse Than The Usual Version, Sir....
We are going to have one helluva campaign down the stretch....

"More Wars! Less Jobs! McCain '08"
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 05:54 PM
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7. The scary part is 20 or 25% of the people in this country
would consider that a good campaign slogan.. :rofl:
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nxylas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 11:16 AM
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81. Yes, that's very scary
Don't they know it should be "FEWER jobs"? ;)
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 06:00 PM
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16. What would you expect from a website with the following articles:
"A Central World Government Is Coming" (featuring: The Antichrist! Atlantis! Masons! The Washington Monument! The United Nations!)
"Global Warming Related to Bible Prophecy"
"Could the Verichip be the Mark of the Beast?"

The good news is that these people denounce George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, and Benjamin Franklin (as Masons - whether that's true or not, I don't know. Anyway, it makes them evil, in these people's eyes). So it looks like Obama is in good company.
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 06:27 PM
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37. "Could the Verichip be the Mark of the Beast?"
Ah, an oldie, but a goodie. I heard this on some crazy Christian/conspiracy AM station when driving across Oklahoma (go figure) about four years ago.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 05:52 PM
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4. Oh come on, what do you want them to run on? Facts? Track record?
Barack Obama is a secret East German agent. OMG, they busted us!
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whistler162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 06:18 PM
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29. Of course he is... who do you think shot down Gary Powers!
Edited on Wed May-21-08 06:21 PM by whistler162
excuse me Francis Gary Powers.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 06:25 PM
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34. Are you sure that was his full name?
I thought it was Francis Gary Muhammed Powers. I'm just kidding. Guys who get their planes shot down by commies are heroes.
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FredScuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 06:34 PM
Response to Reply #34
45. Lee Harvey Hussein Oswald
A moment of silence, please, for the original Islamocommiefacistcubanist

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Texas Hill Country Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 05:54 PM
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6. do you actually know anything about this... there is some truth to the email, some is a bit
Edited on Wed May-21-08 05:57 PM by Texas Hill Country
distorted, like the crap about 9/11 and Obama = muslim, but there is lots of factual stuff there.


and you equating Odinga to Mandela is the laugh of the century.
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 05:57 PM
Response to Reply #6
12. Please share the facts with us.
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 05:59 PM
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14. So show me the facts.. Obama speaks daily in Kenya
Obama is a muslim, Obama caused the election debacle in Kenya, please show me all these facts.


Honestly I don't even know Odinga, but as the saying goes, ones man's insurgent is another man's freedom fighter.


I expect some answers here, some facts, with links to non neo-con hit-job websites, to prove what you are saying. Otherwise you really need to shut the fuck up and get out of my thread.
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Texas Hill Country Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 06:11 PM
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23. here is the story....
you can validate all this on your own, I am not gonna go find the links for you, so look for them yourself, believe me, or dont believe me... choice is yours.

Odinga is a member of the same tribe as Obama's family... he is the leader of the tribe actually. He claims to be Obama's cousin, but who knows if that is by blood or in the extended family sense... regardless.

Odinga ran for the presidency of Kenya. His campaign was at least partially bankrolled by Khadaffi. Odinga himself is a professed Christian, but he made a committment to the muslim extremists in Kenya that he would allow them to institute Sharia law in the predominantly muslim areas of Kenya if they supported his bid for the presidency.

During Odinga's campaign, Barack went to Kenya and, while he didnt campaign "FOR" Odinga, he did speak at a great many of Odinga organized events and gave speeches that criticized the human rights track record of the current government... (Odinga's opponent). This occurred to such a degree that the Kenyan government made a formal complaint to the US State Dept because Obama was interfering in the internal politics of a foreign government and Obama was censured accordingly.

Obama also introduced Odinga to Dick Morris, who became an advisor to the Odinga campaign.

When Odinga lost the election, Odinga's people (including Barack's militantly muslim brother Roy "Abongo" Obama) tried to over throw the government. During this coup attempt, tens of thousands were killed and hundreds of thousands of people were displaced.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 06:13 PM
Response to Reply #23
25. I think YOU should validate it. I'd LOVE to see your links for this stuff.
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 06:17 PM
Response to Reply #23
28. Nope. The one that makes the claims is the one that has to provide proof.
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Texas Hill Country Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 06:34 PM
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46. only one that cares if you believe me. awww, screw it... here is a pic of obama speaking w/ Odinga
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Greyskye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 06:19 PM
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30. Snopes says you are wrong
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 06:21 PM
Response to Reply #30
33. Awww...that was too quick. Good job!
I'm totally bookmarking this thread.


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Texas Hill Country Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 06:29 PM
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39. too bad the snopes article doesnt address a word of my post.
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Greyskye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 06:45 PM
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51. Not one word. A LOT of words:
Odinga is a member of the same tribe as Obama's family... he is the leader of the tribe actually. He claims to be Obama's cousin, but who knows if that is by blood or in the extended family sense... regardless.


Snopes: Barack Obama's uncle has denied Odinga's claim that the two men are directly related, saying: "Odinga's mother came from this area, so it is normal for us to talk about cousins. But he is not a blood relative." Even if Raila Odinga and Barack Obama were in fact distant relatives, their connection would merely be a genetic one and not any meaningful form of familial relationship.

Odinga ran for the presidency of Kenya. His campaign was at least partially bankrolled by Khadaffi. Odinga himself is a professed Christian, but he made a committment to the muslim extremists in Kenya that he would allow them to institute Sharia law in the predominantly muslim areas of Kenya if they supported his bid for the presidency.


Nothing at all to do with Obama, nothing to debunk.

During Odinga's campaign, Barack went to Kenya and, while he didnt campaign "FOR" Odinga, he did speak at a great many of Odinga organized events and gave speeches that criticized the human rights track record of the current government... (Odinga's opponent). This occurred to such a degree that the Kenyan government made a formal complaint to the US State Dept because Obama was interfering in the internal politics of a foreign government and Obama was censured accordingly.


Snopes: Although the Obama campaign acknowledged that Senator Obama spoke to Raila Odinga by telephone "for about five minutes" in January 2008 (he also made a public appearance with Odinga during a trip to Kenya in August 2006), we could find nothing substantiating the claim that "Obama and Raila speak daily."

Obama also introduced Odinga to Dick Morris, who became an advisor to the Odinga campaign.

Only citations of this I can find are in right-wing blogs. Fail. Actually, since Morris was close to the Clinton's for years, it's much more likely that one of them was more responsible for this. As far as I know.

When Odinga lost the election, Odinga's people (including Barack's militantly muslim brother Roy "Abongo" Obama) tried to over throw the government. During this coup attempt, tens of thousands were killed and hundreds of thousands of people were displaced.


Guilt by astronomically remote, extreme association. Hope you didn't strain anything reaching that far.

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Texas Hill Country Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 06:56 PM
Response to Reply #51
60. ok, so your reply didnt actually debunk any of the assertions...
i said Odinga claimed to be related but who knows... OH NOES!

I never claimed they spoke daily. so what's the point of that? But it does say that he spoke at Odinga events in late 2006, which would be the run up to Odinga's presidential campaign in late 2006-2007....

Dick Morris fucking hates the Clintons ever since he was fired because he let $20 hookers listen in on his phone calls with the president... really. (he also was into toe sucking... just FYI). Odinga was introduced to Morris thru Obama... certainly not the clintons


and i never said Obama was "guilty" of the uprising... i was just relating the story.
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Greyskye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 07:05 PM
Response to Reply #60
69. "I'm just relating the story"

Yep. Carrying the right-wings water for them. Well done. :sarcasm:

I'm done with you.
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 12:35 PM
Response to Reply #60
83. i'm sure we can link you to Hitler through some genetic link
and what would that prove? :eyes:
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Texas Hill Country Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 06:26 PM
Response to Reply #30
36. nothing in that snopes article denies a word of what I said. prove me wrong.
Edited on Wed May-21-08 06:36 PM by Texas Hill Country
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 06:46 PM
Response to Reply #36
52. Since it says he didn't visit during the election campaign, you're wrong
Edited on Wed May-21-08 06:46 PM by muriel_volestrangler
That goes to the heart of your accusations against Obama. Here's the NYT on the subject:

Senator Obama barely knew his father and does not know his Kenyan relatives well. He has visited Kenya three times, most recently very briefly in 2006.

Nicholas Kristoff, Feb 2008


Obama worked with the State Department about the Kenyan elections:

As he campaigned for his party's presidential nomination Tuesday in the New Hampshire primary, Senator Barack Obama was following developments in Kenya and was working with the U.S. State Department to speak with President Mwai Kibaki of that country.
...
Obama, a member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee whose father was Kenyan, spoke Monday with the Kenyan opposition leader, Raila Odinga, asking Odinga to meet directly with the president without any preconditions, a spokesman for Obama said.

"He said the country would see the message that both you and Kibaki do not want chaos and that violence on all sides must stop," said the spokesman, Robert Gibbs. "If the country sees you talking and a willingness to resolve this political situation peacefully, a powerful message will be sent to the people."

For the past week, as he has campaigned for the Democratic presidential nomination, Obama has been involved in talks between U.S. and Kenyan leaders. He spoke to Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice a week ago, aides said.

http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/01/08/europe/obama.php


No censure at all. Your 'source' for your 'information' was completely unreliable.
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Texas Hill Country Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 06:50 PM
Response to Reply #52
56. thank you for your information.
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Greyskye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 06:48 PM
Response to Reply #36
54. Post #51. (n/t)
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Texas Hill Country Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 06:56 PM
Response to Reply #54
61. responded.
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 06:01 PM
Response to Reply #36
89. Agree, Snopes debunks the Muslim and "Hussein" charges
The rest is rather nebulous or "unfounded" as Snopes points out.

No doubt Dick Morris has quite a file on this campaign and is probably willing to use it in some way to hurt Obama if he makes it to the GE. You know the GOP, they love to distort things and are experts at it.
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 06:25 PM
Response to Reply #23
35. You Will Need To Do Better Than That, Sir
Sen. Obama was not in Kenya long enough to speak at 'many' rallies for Mr. Odinga: he visited four nations, including Kenya, in the space of two weeks.

Your statement that Mr. Odinga 'lost' the election is disputed, and we may rely on The Economist for the general sense of the latter:

"The decision to return Kenya's 76-year-old incumbent president, Mwai Kibaki, to office was not made by the Kenyan people but by a small group of hardline leaders from Mr Kibaki's Kikuyu tribe. They made up their minds before the result was announced, perhaps even before the opposition candidate, Raila Odinga, had opened up a lead in early returns from the December 27th election. It was a civil coup.

"The planning was meticulous. All that was needed were the extra votes to squeak past Mr Odinga in what had been among the most closely contested elections Africa had ever seen. That was why returns from Central Province, Mr Kibaki's fiercely loyal Kikuyu heartland, were inexplicably held back. It was why, in some constituencies, a large number of voters seemed mysteriously to vote only in the presidential race and ignore the parliamentary ballot—despite waiting hours in the blazing sun. But the real damage was done in Nairobi, by simply crossing out the number of votes as announced in the constituency and scribbling in a higher number. Election monitors were turned away while the tallying went on. Monitors from the European Union saw tens of thousands of votes pinched in this way."
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Texas Hill Country Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 06:28 PM
Response to Reply #35
38. ok, so you are parsing the words many and lost? still the essence of what i said is correct.
Edited on Wed May-21-08 06:36 PM by Texas Hill Country
there is nothing about any of that the disproves anything I said essentially.


please prove me wrong. i would really rather this not be true.
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apocalypsehow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 06:33 PM
Response to Reply #38
44. Caught in a bald-faced falsehood, and still has not the decency to retract or retire from the thread
Typical. :thumbsdown:
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 06:58 PM
Response to Reply #38
64. To Accuse Another Of "parsing', Sir, Whilst Using The Word 'essentially' Is A Mug's Game
You know perfectly well what people speaking English mean by the phrase 'a great many': they do not mean half a dozen, or so, at maximum. If you have been following events in Kenya at all, you will know that the charges of fraud in that election are solid, and that such fraud was predicted by knowledgeable observers well in advance. The picture you are trying to present, that there are 'essential' truths in an account portraying Sen. Obama as hand-in-glove with Moslem extremists and 'East German trained' Communists to overthrow a legitimate government in Kenya is wholly false. You are wise not to provide links to support your assertions, as it is impossible to find such links without delving into the deepest recesses of right-wing hate and smear sites on the web.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 06:31 PM
Response to Reply #23
40. Disgusting that you make these utterly slimy and false accusations
Obama censured? Bullshit. A flatly false claim. Obama introduced Odinga to Morris? Can't find a single reputable source that backs that claim up. Obama made many appearances on behalf of Odinga? Another false statement. Obama made one appearance with Odinga and has spoken to him once on the phone. He was trying to help calm a violent and dangerous situation in Kenya.

In fact that whole stupid email has been debunked by Snopes.

Just inexcusable to post this shit.
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Texas Hill Country Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 06:32 PM
Response to Reply #40
42. snopes does not address a word of what i said. I WANT you to prove me wrong. Really.
Edited on Wed May-21-08 06:36 PM by Texas Hill Country
i would rather all of this be not true.

unfortunately, i think it prolly is.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 06:42 PM
Response to Reply #42
48. I just researched every single claim you made and found
nothing from anything even related to a reputable source. I mean NOTHING. NADA. The closest I could come to your scurrilous censure garbage was this;

http://myafrica.wordpress.com/2006/09/27/kenyan-envoy-kicks-off-diplomatic-row-with-us-2/

Not even close to Obama being censured. Some diplomat who hadn't even submitted his credentials yet, wrote OBAMA a letter. big whoop. The State department certainly did not "censure" him- as if they even could.

And Snopes does address his ONE appearence with Odinga and his ONE phone call.


Your claims are smears. Untrue, dishonorable, ugly.

You should be ashamed.

Some things are inexcusable.
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Texas Hill Country Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 06:45 PM
Response to Reply #48
49. look, i am only relating the stories I have seen in investors business daily, abc, bbc and from
kenyan friends...

as i already said, i would love to be disproven.


and for you to rail against me... glass houses, thats all i am saying.
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 06:48 PM
Response to Reply #49
55. Well then LINK to those stories!
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 06:51 PM
Response to Reply #49
57. Well, there's your problem - Investor Business Daily are lying RW shits
who can't be trusted to tell you which direction the sun rises in. I bet all of the crap came from them.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 06:58 PM
Response to Reply #57
63. All I could find from IBD was a horrendously lying editorial
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Texas Hill Country Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 06:59 PM
Response to Reply #57
65. not all, but a bit... i am smart enough to filter a bit tho.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 06:52 PM
Response to Reply #49
59. you have linked to nothing. And I did not find a single story
from abc, bbc or even that wacked out wingnut slime sheet, IBD. Nothing. You saw those stories, link them. And no your supposed friends in Kenya don't count.
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Texas Hill Country Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 06:58 PM
Response to Reply #59
62. like i said, choose to believe me or not... i am too tired to care... maybe i will get around to
it later.


if its not true, then great. if the info I got was bad, super. it would make me feel much better. really and without an ounce of sarcasm.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 07:00 PM
Response to Reply #62
67. I'm willing to take your word for that. I'd like to hear you say
that you will not, in the future, post such accusations without reputable links. Because as I said, there's nothing on the Web to back up your charges. It's as bad as if I accused Hillary of murdering Vince Foster. Same level of vile crap.
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Texas Hill Country Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 07:05 PM
Response to Reply #67
70. like i said, i am tired and just being lazy. i am bigtime against conspiracy theory bullshit, and
i hate that... but i do believe that most of the essentials of what i said are true... maybe I have some of the dots connected incorrectly, very possible, but these are FACTS

1. Obama spoke at Odinga organized events criticizing the governments HR record

2. Odinga claims to be Obama's cousin

3. Odinga made a deal with the muslim extremists to institute sharia law in islamic areas

4. When Odinga did not become President, there was an uprising, lots of people died and were displaced.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 07:13 PM
Response to Reply #70
72. First of all, you're still sticking to a smears you can't even find
the slightest evidence for- using the pitiful excuse that you're lazy. Secondly, who the fuck cares if Odinga claims to be or even is Obama's cousin. Hilly has criminal brothers. Should I make a big deal out of how that completely taints her? No, of course not. And I'd never even think of doing so.

Just disgusting. The worst smears I've seen against Obama, in many ways.

I'm done with any more discourse on this.
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 07:26 PM
Response to Reply #70
75. Of course, someone link to snopes when you brought this up a couple of weeks ago
but you seemed to have ignored it then:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5871433&mesg_id=5874067

Being "bigtime against conspiracy theory bullshit" involves actually reading the threads in which you make unsourced claims.

"Obama spoke at Odinga organized events criticizing the governments HR record"

Not a 'FACT' yet - we just have your word for it.
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 12:43 PM
Response to Reply #70
86. you are normally against conspiracy theories
that's like saying you are normally against typing. :eyes:
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Greyskye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 07:03 PM
Response to Reply #62
68. Aren't you just special
I'll just throw this shit onto the wall. If it slides off clean, then great. If it makes a stinky mess, ah well.

Sounds like you are choosing to throw a bunch of libelous crap out into the world without vetting it. Admit it, you don't have a single non-right-wing link for any of this.

Aren't you just special. :eyes:
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 07:15 PM
Response to Reply #68
73. That's precisely what's going on here.
And not even disgusting wingnut sources were provided for those reprehensible smears.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 07:41 PM
Response to Reply #68
76. We used to have a word for that kind of shit-peddling.
:grr:

And an "award."

:grr:
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 12:37 PM
Response to Reply #49
85. you have Kenyan friends
i guess you are linked to all that stuff too! :think:
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 12:36 PM
Response to Reply #42
84. can't prove a negative
i hope you know enough about logic to know that, but sadly...
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 12:32 PM
Response to Reply #23
82. Obama was raised by folks from a tribe in
Kansas.
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rch35 Donating Member (658 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 06:02 PM
Response to Reply #6
20. i cant believe youd actually type that.
thats the most fucking stupid thing i have ever heard.
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 06:05 PM
Response to Reply #6
90. Hey THC, there are these Nigerians who want to put $$millions$$ in your bank account
I'm sure you've gotten the emails from them, and there's probably some truth to them! Just give them your account numbers! Looks like a really good investment. :thumbsup:
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 05:55 PM
Response to Original message
8. Prescott Bushler was a Nazi collaborator.
Time to make some emails ourselves.

Where's Octafish?


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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 05:58 PM
Response to Reply #8
13. Yeah, where is Octafish?
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 06:00 PM
Response to Reply #13
18. I don't know, I've been in the GD-P peat bog for too long.
:D


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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 06:13 PM
Response to Reply #18
24. lol you and me both brother. I need to exile myself
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 06:21 PM
Response to Reply #24
32. Never give up!
Never surrender! :D



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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 06:32 PM
Response to Reply #32
41. Damn you, now that's gotta go on my netflix list
Like I don't already have 150 movies in my queue.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 06:38 PM
Response to Reply #41
47. I recommend you watch "Idiocracy" before anything else.
;)


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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 07:58 PM
Response to Reply #47
79. Seen it, and I must watch it again, 151 on the queue.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 08:17 PM
Response to Reply #79
80. Have you seen "Schizopolis" by Steven Soderbergh?
I recommend it. It was filmed near my apartment complex when I attended LSU. The crazy, half-naked guy in the beginning owns a cafe near the university.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schizopolis

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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 05:56 PM
Response to Original message
9. You forgot the page about holding 10 million dollars that you cannot move
and will gladly give me one million to deposit the check.....


Ya pucking futz
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RichardRay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 05:57 PM
Response to Reply #9
11. Arf arf arf - note the time stamps on our posts!!!
:rofl:
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 06:08 PM
Response to Reply #11
22. Great minds....
You know the rest....


:headbang:
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 06:02 PM
Response to Reply #9
19. WTF are you talking about,
and don't call me a fucking putz asshole. This was forwarded to me, I copied and pasted the whole thing here. If there is something else I should know maybe you'd like to inform me instead of calling me names.
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 06:20 PM
Response to Reply #19
31. Why would you publish this excretia on Democratic Underground??
Why not just link Obama with the Soviet Union??


And I called you a pucking futz. Big difference.
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RichardRay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 07:12 PM
Response to Reply #19
71. Walldude, it's OK!!
Both of us were just adding to the ridiculousness of the message by conflating it with the standard email scam in which someone claiming to be from an African country purports to have access to 100's of thousands or even millions of dollars and just needs your help to get it out of the country - you just have to send him a few thousand bucks to get the deal done. The emails are usually masterpieces of fantasy, as was the one that got forwarded to you.

No one's poking you!!
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RichardRay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 05:56 PM
Response to Original message
10. Did they also ask your help...
in transferring a large sum of cash out of the country?

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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 06:00 PM
Response to Reply #10
17. No.. this was forwarded to me, so I have no fucking idea
what you are talking about
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newmajority Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 06:00 PM
Response to Original message
15. If these despicable motherfucking liars are really missionairies in Africa
then I hope they end up in some cannibal's stew pot.

Anyone pushing lies and hatred in the name of Christ sickens me to no end. :grr:
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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 06:02 PM
Response to Original message
21. "Please help us to harvest the souls in Africa"
Edited on Wed May-21-08 06:03 PM by anigbrowl
From their website
:puke:
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Greyskye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 06:15 PM
Response to Original message
26. Snopes had this a week ago. FALSE.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/kenya.asp

The 'Davis family' referenced sound like complete fruitcakes. :silly:
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 06:15 PM
Response to Original message
27. The best response to this garbage
Take me OFF your email list and NEVER , EVER send me any more of this RACIST BULLSHIT !!

Use Google and check your "facts".. This it total bullshit and lies..

Shame on YOU for thinking I would be interested in this shit!

sincerely,
(your name here)
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Kukesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 07:56 PM
Response to Reply #27
78. I'm stealing this for my use; I hope plagiarism is OK with you. n/t
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Kukesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 06:45 PM
Response to Original message
50. Send this to the Obama website.
They've asked for email messages like this one. Send the entire thing. Look for a feature called "watchdog" on the site.

They may already know about it, but it couldn't hurt.
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stahbrett Donating Member (855 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 07:00 PM
Response to Original message
66. Just to be clear, this is completely bogus and debunked at snopes.com
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 07:16 PM
Response to Original message
74. "Lorendavis" is a scam- a hypocritical farce

they are no more followers of Jesus than Bush is "eloquent".

They have the gall to claim they know "Obama's tribe well"-

may they be forgiven for their hatred and lies.


peace~
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mcctatas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 07:43 PM
Response to Original message
77. The best part is (at least in the version I got)...
It said that everything was 100% true and verified by Snopes, even included a link. Of course when you click the link it leads you to a snopes article debunking the whole freaking thing :rofl: They must figure anyone stupid enough to believe that crap is also too stupid to click a link...
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XOKCowboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 05:50 PM
Response to Original message
87. Kick brother..
The fact that they're attacking him and embracing her seems to tell me something.
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 05:55 PM
Response to Original message
88. Dick Morris ran Odinga's campaign
I doubt the veracity of this email, but there were doubtless a lot of things Morris saw during the campaign and Obama's participation in it that he will attempt to use against Obama, fair, true or otherwise.

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