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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 06:53 PM
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Clinton Comparing Obama And Democratic Party To Republicans Stealing Florida!
My admiration for the Clinton campaign continues to grow.

http://www.americablog.com/2008/05/hillary-is-now-comparing-obama-and-dnc.html

And now we have Hillary comparing Obama and the Democrats to the Republicans who stole the election in Florida. From Politico, via Andrew:

In an intentional bit of symbolism, Clinton's three campaign stops will be in Palm Beach, Broward, and Dade counties – the three jurisdictions where Democrats allege voters were disenfranchised during the 2000 presidential election.

So Obama's victory in getting the Democratic nomination is as illegitimate as Bush's stealing of the vote in Florida. She really is hateful. And she really is going to torpedo Obama's campaign. And our leaders won't do a damn thing about it because, you know, it would be mean. I wonder if they'd be so reticent were Joe Biden being this much of an idiot.
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WA98296 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 06:56 PM
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1. That's right, and the Party just sits back and apparently condones her behavior.
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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 06:58 PM
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4. It's sexist to do anything but agree with her. When did you stop beating your wife?
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ampad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 07:43 PM
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21. Don't forget the call for unity
If you go against her then your going against Obama's message of unity. Yea, I think it's their new meme on this board.
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lisa58 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 06:56 PM
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2. If she gave a shit in 2000 I'd have some sympathy for her...
...but she only acts when it's in her best interests and its getting very tiresome.
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LaurenG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 06:57 PM
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3. She's a poopy head
trying to get as much support as possible to wrest away anything she can. Typical "dirty" politics.
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wurzel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 06:58 PM
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5. If Kerry had the guts of Hillary he would be President today!
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jean627 Donating Member (75 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 07:10 PM
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6. Kerry has more guts and integrity
than the Clintons could ever hope to have.

Kerry knew that there was NO way of proving the fraud and suppression of 2004 sufficiently to change the results of the election.

You may have noticed that the election was contested, in congress, but there was nothing concrete to go on. It has continued to be investigated and there still is no concrete proof that could change the results.

Kerry had the intelligence to know that and not give the CONs "talking points" for another 4 years, but, instead, get to work at cleaning up the machines and the system.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 08:06 PM
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24. You mean Kerry would've had a different DNC that DID its job instead of working for Hillary2008?
Edited on Thu May-22-08 08:07 PM by blm
It doesn't take guts to work to protect BushInc the way the Clintons do.

It takes guts to work to expose BushInc as you risk your life and career.

Kerry would be the brave person who stepped in front of a bullet to save your kid or you. Clintons would shove you or your kid in front of themselves, just as a Bush would.
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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 07:53 PM
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7. Yeah and all 500 people who come to see her are going to
believe her, then go home, take a Centrum Silver and put their teeth in a jar.

I am old enough to post this without being ageist.
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 07:54 PM
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8. She wants every vote to count, how 'bout you?
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Yotun Donating Member (346 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 07:53 AM
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16. I want every vote cast for the election of the nominee to count
I DON'T want votes cast in a completely different electoral process carried out under completely different assumptions, where the voters where voting under the impression that their votes wouldn't count, to be presented as the result of something they are not, just so a spoiled sore loser gets her way. But apparently your notion of democracy is that you can shape and distort the facts any way that it fits your cause, to make the person who has democratically lost, appear as the winner.
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Mimosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 07:58 PM
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9. HRC is helping Obama and McCain
Her outsider act can only sail with the mentally or memory impaired.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 08:00 PM
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10. She's right
and Obama fans here are acting like Republicans in 2000 claiming a blind adherence to "the rules" trumps the will of the voters. I've also noticed you're fond of saying "She lost! Get over it!", another fine Freeperism from 2000.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 08:05 PM
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11. I've never once said that.
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Elidor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 08:31 PM
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12. I'm curious to know: how would you apportion the MI and FL delegates if it were up to you?
Can you lay out a case for percentages and justify them?
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 07:47 AM
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13. by the way people voted in those states
:shrug:
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NotThisTime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 07:51 AM
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14. And the 230,000 uncommitteds in Michigan don't count? Their being disenfranchised
Maybe someone should have care PRIOR to the primary
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 07:53 AM
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15. It only counts as "disenfranchisement" when the vote dont go to Hillary.
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kennetha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 07:54 AM
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17. They count
for delegates who go to the convention uncommitted.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 07:40 PM
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20. Why can't they be uncommitted delegates?
:shrug:
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swishyfeet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 08:00 PM
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23. Wouldn't it be disenfranchising those who stayed home because
Their guy's name wasn't on the ballot?

Yes, it's all fucked up, but you must admit that just giving Clinton all her votes when others weren't even on the ballot is unfair.

All the polls show Obama's support going up dramatically after things got started and people got a chance to see him on the stump - which is why the rules makers did not want these big states jumping the line.

I appreciate that you've been more reasonable than most when arguing your point over this, but it would be terribly unjust to give Clinton a HUGE advantage, and shrugging as if there's no other reasonable way indicates to me that you're not particularly interested in fairness at all. JMO.
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 07:55 AM
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18. "Blind adherence to the Rules"?
So THAT's what Bush was doing, and has been doing this whole time?!

Silly me, I thought he was Breaking the Rules, refusing to abide by them, using dirty tricks to Avoid "adhering" to Any and All RULES..

You are a smart person, but now you're getting pretty out there..

Better insult me Quick so what I just wrote doesn't "count" :)
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 07:43 PM
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22. In 2000, in Florida
Edited on Thu May-22-08 07:43 PM by MonkeyFunk
Don't be daft.

You know what I wrote - why distort it?

They claimed all sorts of "rules". The rules didn't allow a full recount. The rules didn't allow Harris to let the count go on a few more hours - she insisted the numbers be submitted on a SUNDAY afternoon. It was absurd. But they could point to "rules" that backed up their position. No flexibility, no common-sense reading, just blind adherence - when it suited them. Just like you guys are doing.

The pledge you insist is so important was broken by Obama when he ran ads in Florida, but you don't care about that. Instead, you focus on false arguments about what the pledge actually said.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 07:57 AM
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19. I thought the newest talking points were sexism and how white men only vote for her
:shrug:
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