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oldpol Donating Member (383 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 10:54 AM
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Huff Po: Stop Yelling at Hillary to Stand Down & Get Superdelegates to Stand Up (list of undeclared)
The dust refuses to settle on the Democratic race. Hillary Clinton wants to cloud the issue with talk of Zimbabwe, Gore 2000, slavery, the civil rights movement, and fuzzy-math-derived popular vote totals. The media steadfastly refuse to clear things up by sticking to the facts, preferring to keep the horse race going.

So let's see if we can put the focus on those with the power to bring to an end this political equivalent of a 50s horror movie (The Campaign That Just Won't Die!): the superdelegates.

There are currently 212 uncommitted superdelegates (not counting Michigan and Florida). What are they waiting for?

I understand there are still three more primaries to go. But there is nothing that is going to happen in Puerto Rico or South Dakota or Montana that is going to convince Hillary Clinton to leave the race. Her argument isn't about pledged delegates, which is what is at stake in these remaining primaries. Her argument is about Florida and Michigan and convincing the superdelegates to overturn the pledged delegate majority Obama has won.

And there is also no reason for the superdelegates to wait until the Rules and Bylaws Committee meeting on May 31st. Not even the Clinton camp is delusional enough to think it is going to walk away from the meeting with enough additional pledged delegates from Michigan and Florida to overtake Obama.

So it's time for the uncommitted superdelegates to stop their dithering, come out of hiding, hop off the fence, endorse Obama and officially bring this nominating process to an end.

The Democratic leadership -- starting with Pelosi, Reid, and Dean -- should begin working behind the scenes to get all uncommitted supers to immediately commit. Let Puerto Rico, South Dakota, and Montana have their say, but start bringing the curtain down now.

And let's not just wait for the party leaders to put pressure on the superdelegates. Let's start putting pressure ourselves. Below you will find a list of all the uncommitted superdelegates. And this link will lead you to profiles of them. Please call or email the elected officials and track down the DNC members who live in your state and let them know that you want them to stand up and be counted. Now.

Hillary Clinton has more than earned the right to stay in the race until the bitter end. So it's up to the superdelegates to accelerate the bitter end.

Representatives

Bud Cramer (AL)
Gabrielle Giffords (AZ)
Nancy Pelosi (CA)
Jerry McNerney (CA)
Mike Honda (CA)
Sam Farr (CA)
Jim Costa (CA)
Bob Filner (CA)
Susan Davis (CA)
Mark Udall (CO)
John Salazar (CO)
Jim Marshall (GA)
Rahm Emanuel (IL)
Nancy Boyda (KS)
Dennis Moore (KS)
William Jefferson (LA)
Charlie Melancon (LA)
Don Cazayoux (LA)
Rep. Michael Michaud (ME)
John Sarbanes (MD)
Steny Hoyer (MD)
Chris Van Hollen (MD)
John Olver (MA)
Niki Tsongas (MA)
John Tierney (MA)
Edward Markey (MA)
Collin Peterson (MN)
Gene Taylor (MS)
Rep. Travis Childers (MS)
Rep. Rush Holt (NJ)
Rep. Bob Etheridge (NC)
Rep. Mike McIntyre (NC)
Rep. Tom Udall (NM)
Charlie Wilson (OH)
Marcia Kaptur (OH)
Rep. Zack Space (OH)
Rep. Dennis Kucinich (OH)
Rep. Dan Boren (OK)
Bob Brady (PA)
Jason Altmire (PA)
Tim Holden (PA)
Rep. Mike Doyle (PA)
John Spratt (SC)
Rep. Jim Clyburn (SC)
Lincoln Davis (TN)
Bart Gordon (TN)
Nick Lampson (TX)
Jim Matheson (UT)
Alan Mollohan (WV)


Distinguished Party
Leaders

Jimmy Carter (GA)
Al Gore (TN)
Fmr. Senator and Majority Leader
George Mitchell (NY)
Fmr. DNC Chair Bob Strauss (TX)


Senators
Ken Salazar (CO)
Joe Biden (DE)
Tom Carper (DE)
Tom Harkin (IA)
Mary Landrieu (LA)
Ben Cardin (MD)
Carl Levin (MI)
Max Baucus (MT)
Jon Tester (MT)
Harry Reid (NV)
Frank Lautenberg (NJ)
Sherrod Brown (OH)
Ron Wyden (OR)
Jack Reed (RI)
Jim Webb (VA)
Herb Kohl (WI)


Governors
Bill Ritter (CO)
Steve Beshear (KY)
Brian Schweitzer (MT)
John Lynch (NH)
Phil Bredeson (TN)
Joe Manchin (WV)

Add-Ons
Terry Goddard (AZ)
Jay Nixon (MO)
Rusty McAllister (NV)
Jerry Lee (TN)
37 Unnamed Add-Ons,
including 2 from Michigan


DNC Members
Joe Turnham (AL)
Nancy Worley (AL)
Don Bivens (AZ)
Lottie Shackleford (AR)
Art Torres (CA)
Hon. Carole Migden (CA)
Bob Mulholland (CA)
Christine Pelosi (CA)
Robert Rankin (CA)
Steve Ybarra (CA)
John Perez (CA)
Pat Waak (CO)
Nancy DiNardo (CT)
Donna Brazile (DC)
Christine Warnke (DC)
John Daniello (DE)
Harriet Smith-Windsor (DE)
Richard Ray (GA)
Ben Pangelinan (GU)
Chair - Vacant (HI)
Vice-Chair - Vacant (HI)
Edward Smith (IL)
Vacant (IL)
Helen Knetzer (KS)
Jennifer Moore (KY)
Nathan Smith (KY)
Chris Whittington (LA)
Claude "Buddy" Leach (LA)
Elsie Burkhalter (LA)
Sam Spencer (ME)
Jennifer DeChant (ME)
Hon. Heather Mizeur (MD)
Susan Turnbull (MD)
John Sweeney (MD)
Belkis Leong-Hong (MD)
Debra Kozikowski (MA)
James Roosevelt Jr (MA)
Carnelia Pettis Fondren (MS)
John Temporiti (MO)
Yolanda Wheat (MO)
Leila Medley (MO)
Hon. Robin Carnahan (MO)
Hon. Maria Chappelle-Nadal (MO)
Dennis McDonald (MT)
Margarett Campbell (MT)
Sam Lieberman (NV)
Hon. Yvonne Gates (NV)
Hon. Catherine Cortez Masto (NV)
Philip D. Murphy (NJ)
Raymond Buckley (NH)
Irene Stein (NY)
Ralph Dawson (NY)
David Parker (NC)
Muriel Offerman (NC)
Carol Peterson (NC)
David Strauss (ND)
Hon. Chris Redfern (OH)
Ronald Malone (OH)
Patricia Moss (OH)
Hon. Joyce Beatty (OH)
Ivan Holmes (OK)
Jim Frasier (OK)
Jay Parmley (OK)
Meredith Woods-Smith (OR)
Frank Dixon (OR)
Jenny Greenleaf (OR)
Wayne Kinney (OR)
Gail Rasmussen (OR)
Hon. Bill Bradbury (OR)
Eliseo Roques-Arroyo (PR)
Hon. Gilda Cobb-Hunter (SC)
Cheryl Chapman (SD)
Gray Sasser (TN)
Dr. Inez Crutchfield (TN)
Boyd Richie (TX)
David Hardt (TX
Denise Johnson (TX)
Betty Richie (TX)
Linda Chavez -Thompson (TX)
Helen Langan (UT)
Jim Leaman (VA)
C Richard Cranwell (VA)
Hon. Alexis Herman (VA)
Jerome Wiley Segovia (VA)
Howard Dean (VT)
Eileen Macoll (WA)
Ed Cote (WA)
Sharon Mast (WA)
David McDonald (WA)
Nick Casey Jr. (WV)
Alice Germond (WV)
Paula Zellner (WI)
Nancy Drummond (WY)
Cynthia Nunley (WY)
Marylyn Stapleton (VI)
Vacant - 1 (At-large)
Vacant - 2 (At-large)


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Fresh_Start Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 10:55 AM
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1. yes, and stop pinning all the expectations on the President
demand that Congress do its job.
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democracy1st Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 10:58 AM
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2. John Conyers has made a move to protect the Constitution,hopefully the rest will follow
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oldpol Donating Member (383 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 10:58 AM
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3. its time to put the pressure on
Edited on Fri May-23-08 11:08 AM by oldpol
would district phone calls and mailings work to the reps?
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Fresh_Start Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 11:05 AM
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4. I don't know what will work
but I sure as hell know its not working now.

We have no effective government if Congress can not stand up and do its job whether or not the President agrees with them.

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oldpol Donating Member (383 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 11:09 AM
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5. my congressperson is on that list
I can talk to their office and get a reason why she's not endorsing
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cloudythescribbler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 11:39 AM
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6. I agree that calling for HRC to quit is a waste of time, BUT voicing opposition to her as VP ...
on the other hand, could have an impact on the choice Obama puts forward. First, I think Obama should pick someone who never supported the Iraq War Resolution, both on grounds of competency and electability. Second, especially given the disappointed base of Hillary voters, it should be (in my arrogant opinion) preferably a woman -- someone VERY charismatic and popular and uniting with little by way of negatives other than from the right, and little by way of baggage. Lots of foreign policy experience is a major plus BOTH for the presidency and for the election.

For these, I think Barbara Boxer would be best, though Stabenow, Sebelius and others might do well also. I don't know where Napolitano stood on IWR back when, but she is another major possibility.

As for males, again you need someone to maximize Obama's chances of being elected -- possibly Schweitzer, of the other primary candidates, probably Richardson and NOT Edwards or Clinton.

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What CAN people who DON'T want HRC on the ticket do that is effective and meaningful. Here's one idea -- emailing any glitterati, especially if you know them (ie if they read your emails and even respond), with the idea of one of those full page NY TIMES ads with zillions of famous people signing them, urging against her being selected as VP. Some criteria (eg re: IRW) might be included, and perhaps the suggestion that the nominee be a woman.

Also, the URL that got 770 votes could help --

here's some ideas about what to do about HRC for VP nominee if you are agin it:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x6088435
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oldpol Donating Member (383 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 11:49 AM
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8.  veep pick
Sebelius, she would get a lot of Hillary supporters back in the fold while delivering Ohio
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cloudythescribbler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 09:39 PM
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11. from your lips to God's ears ... nt
I'd like to see an election where Obama blows McCain away, carrying ALL the northeast (ME, NH, VT, MA, CT, RI, NY, NJ, PA), and then the tier of states to the south of that (MD, DE, VA, NC), and nearly the whole Midwest (OH, MI, WV, IL, WI, MN, IA, MO -- the latter helped by Sebelius), and of course CA, OR, WA and HI. Then, the 2000/04 GOP near LOCK on the internal west busted up, with the Dems carrying NM, CO, and NV. Even w/FL (which I don't think Obama can carry without eg Barbara Boxer on the ticket) going repug, it would be the kind of victory that could be a "transformational" election. Now THAT'S what I'd like to see.

My expectation is it'll be a lot closer than that, and especially if HRC is on the ticket, a possible victory for McCain is hardly out of the question ...

In which case, we'd be talking about plans to extricate ourselves from the Iraq debacle IN THE 2012 ELECTION!

ick
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seaglass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 11:48 AM
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7. The 3 MA SDs are all in Districts won by Clinton - 2 leaning Clinton
and one (mine) not leaning - but owing to both Clinton and Obama for her recent win in a special election. Do you really want them to commit today?
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Tippy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 12:41 PM
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9. Done...boy that felt good.....n/t
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barack the house Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 12:46 PM
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10. Make the call firmly but politely.
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