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WA98296 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 02:28 PM
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NEW INFO -- IT"S NOT TRUE!!!! CNN: Obama, Clinton camps in 'formal' talks for VP slot
Edited on Fri May-23-08 02:41 PM by WA98296
So, never mind. I am so grateful to learn that this CNN crap is not true.

Here's the new info:

CNN reported this morning that there are some kind of "talks" taking place between the Obama and Clinton campaigns about the possibility that she might leave the race and become veep.

The network claimed that the Clinton camp was pushing three "scenarios" it was envisioning for the future.

Well, I've just spoken to both campaigns about this. And their denials couldn't be more adamant.

http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/05/clinton_and_obama_camps_cnn_re.php


Heres' the crap from CNN:

"Sources inside of Hillary Clinton’s inner circle are pushing for compromise. They have reached out to the Obama campain and it’s all about saving face, a graceful exit strategy. They say it’s very difficult.

What they’ve done is they have reached out and presented Obama insiders with three possible scenarios. they say obama can ignore clinton and her supporters and make this vice-presidential offer to someone else, which several people say would be a total dismissal of her. It is considered unacceptable. One person told me this could mean open civil war within the party, and so they believe that this is scenario number one is going to have consequences.

They say it doesn’t mean that Clinton would not campaign for Obama, that she would, but she would do so like her husband did campaigning for Gore, quite aloof. They also say perhaps women’s groups will be less willing to raise money for Obama.

The second scenario that they’re looking at here is that Obama could publicly offer Clinton the VP spot knowing that she would reject it. Now, this isn’t acceptable to the Obama camp. They are afraid if Obama were to publicly make this offer to Clinton, that she would in fact accept it and the problem the Clinton insiders say is these two don’t trust each other. That’s something that’s been rejected by the Obama insiders.

Now, the third scenario is that both of these two could get in a room, try to talk it out, and emerge to agree to disagree here. Come up with whatever they find suitable and present it to the public. For example, Clinton could get her debt covered or Obama could pledge to support her in a run for the Senate Majority Leader position later on. These kind of things. But clinton, whether or not she even wants the job, is something that insiders say, look, she’s not thinking about. She’s aware of these discussions, but she’s still looking forward to all the contests. She’s still looking forward to the number one spot."

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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 02:30 PM
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1. The DLC "Must" have their Way
fucking sickening....
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thewiseguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 02:30 PM
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2. NO!
:mad:
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Bicoastal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 02:30 PM
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3. I've been ready to start saying "let the baby have its bottle" for a week now.
Why not and whatever. Obama's not got to let her "Cheney" his Presidency, anyway.
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thewiseguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 02:31 PM
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7. How is she going to help him win the presidency?
Oh my god I just dont know what to tell you. Thats it.
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Bicoastal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 02:36 PM
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27. To be honest, I don't know how she will help him. But I don't know how..
...she can keep from hurting him if she doesn't get her way.

Hear that flushing sound? It's the Clinton legacy going down the drain.
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Andy823 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 02:47 PM
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45. The question should be
How will she hurt him if she is on the ticket? I can think of a lot ways she hurts his run in a GE, and the ads that the republicans run on TV showing her say that she and McCain are qualified, but Oama is not, are just the tip of the iceberg! I also think she would hurt with the independents, and republican cross over voters.

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lisa58 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 02:30 PM
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4. both sides denying the story
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housewolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 02:30 PM
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5. Both campaigns strongly deny it...
Edited on Fri May-23-08 02:31 PM by housewolf
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msallied Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 02:31 PM
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6. She's disgusting. She is holding the Democratic Party for ransom because she didn't win.
I've never seen such craven behavior from another Democrat.
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WA98296 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 02:33 PM
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16. Well, let's see if he's smart enough to not be manipulated by this. Otherwise, I think we've lost.
Certainly his message is dead, and the GOP will be revitalized.

She can't guarantee delivering anyone's vote.
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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 02:34 PM
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17. Exactly right. She's holding him and the party hostage..n/t
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InAbLuEsTaTe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 02:49 PM
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47. Who but the Clintons act like this?
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samdogmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 02:31 PM
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8. Ummm...I'm hoping this is just a "face saving" measure for Hillary?
Obama will offer her the VP slot. She'll decline graciously and then we'll all heal and move on.

(That's my dream...anyway!)
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 02:31 PM
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9. Settle down.. it's been debunked STRONGLY by Obama's Campaign. Its a rumor.
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thewiseguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 02:32 PM
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11. Thank you jesus!
:toast:
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WA98296 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 02:34 PM
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20. PLEASE be RIGHT...however, this is the rumor then of CNN
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Growler Donating Member (896 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 02:31 PM
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10. Jesus, I hope not!
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Max_powers94 Donating Member (715 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 02:32 PM
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12. The Clinton 's are pushing this story hard!!!
sad
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InAbLuEsTaTe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 02:52 PM
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48. You're so right - and it's beyond sad.
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 02:32 PM
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13. CNN is speculating, imo
Everyone knows there is discussions going on behind the scene and, no doubt, some on Clinton's team want her to get the VP spot. As usual, CNN is projecting ahead of the actual facts.
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newmajority Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 02:32 PM
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14. Absolutely Fucking Unacceptable
Edited on Fri May-23-08 02:34 PM by newmajority
While I'm sure this is really just a lot of Whoremedia spin, you cannot have CHANGE while continuing to enable the very pieces of shit who have been destroying this country for the last 28 years.

No more Bush. No more Clinton. No more DLC.
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Shoelace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 02:41 PM
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38. who are "they" that have been destroying this country for 28 years?
HRC and Obama have a voting record that is 95% identical. She's fought for children, the poor, black voters and health care reform for years.

The "who" to me would be the Bushes and their corporate shills. Then there was Reagan who did a pretty good job of birthing the Neocon nation.

That Bill Clinton got the National Voter Registration Act passed in 1992 goes ignored by Obama supporters. That was a huge factor in enabling people of color to vote and a major reason that Obama is running for president today:

This act has had a significant impact on voter registration. In the first quarter of 1995 (when the act was implemented), two million new voters were registered. Georgia registered 180,000 voters in a three-month period, compared to 85,000 for the entire preceding year. In the first quarter, Florida registered 400,000. In addition, during the first year of implementation, 40% of newly registered voters were under the age of 30. Finally, the two-year period after implementation witnessed one of the largest registration increases in American history. Indeed, the National Voter Registration Act has been instrumental in broadening the base of American democracy.
http://www.fairvote.org/?page=1325
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 02:33 PM
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15. msnbc reported not long ago that talks with the Clinton campaign AREN'T happening...
...that he's considering others ~ pretty much the names that have been tossed around here.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 02:34 PM
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18. "Hillary, I'll let you say that I offered and you refused. But there's no way, sweetie."
Edited on Fri May-23-08 02:34 PM by TahitiNut
:evilgrin:
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WA98296 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 02:35 PM
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24. Good idea...I LIKE that one...Let's go with it!
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InAbLuEsTaTe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 02:54 PM
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49. I'm on board too. It lets Hillary save face, though she doesn't deserve to be treated so graciously
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 04:55 PM
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51. It's also something that someone who avoids lies would offer ...
... to someone who doesn't mind lying. :evilgrin:
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 02:34 PM
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19. First off, quit being a panic monkey. If you puke in GDP, you gotta mop it up.
Secondly, both camps are denying this story and saying the other camp is planting it.
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 02:34 PM
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21. Yeah! Unity! Wahoo!
:woohoo:
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thewiseguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 02:36 PM
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25. 100% False.
:headbang:
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 02:37 PM
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29. LOL....I love the early denials.
:rofl:
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cbayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 02:39 PM
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34. Yep! That's what I want!
I want the two of them to sit down and hash this out. They are both capable of it and would make a great team.
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 02:42 PM
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40. Exactly! nt
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suston96 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 02:35 PM
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22. A little research on this would have helped.....
http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/05/clinton_and_obama_camps_cnn_re.php

"Clinton And Obama Camps: CNN Report Of "Talks" Between Campaigns Is 100% False"

CNN and the rest keep having these wet dreams about an Obama-Clinton ticket.
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WA98296 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 02:36 PM
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26. Thank you for the link!...however what better place to get news than here.
I heading over now.
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WA98296 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 02:38 PM
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30. YES!!!! THANK YOU!!! It is so hard not to have major anxiety over this entire process.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 02:35 PM
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23. It's bullshit
It's Hillary's camp that's pushing this. Obama won't choose her and the party will back him.
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apocalypsehow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 02:37 PM
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28. She brings nothing to the ticket and would, in point of fact, hurt Obama's chances with her baggage.
Besides which, I have a feeling she would sabotage his campaign hoping he'd lose so she can try again for the top spot in 2012. :thumbsdown:

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suston96 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 02:45 PM
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43. Nothing? Come on, now.....16 million voted for her? Almost as many as for Obama?
Besides, she could probably win Arkansas for him. In a tight race Arkansas would be good.
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BattyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 02:38 PM
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31. All the hope I feel when I think of Obama as president ...
completely disappears when I think of Hillary as VP. I'm sorry, but I don't trust her at all. The rules she agreed to mean nothing to her, the Democratic party means nothing to her, she's using voters to drive a wedge between the races and the sexes ... it's disgusting! How can Obama be the candidate of "change" if the Clinton Machine blackmails him into putting her on the ticket? :shrug: :-(
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 02:42 PM
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41. Hillary would be one of the WORST if not THE WORST choice for VP.
Period.
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mudesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 02:39 PM
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32. What a petulant, spoiled brat
A "total dismissal" of her is "unacceptable"?

What is she, 6 years old?

Drop out and go away, Hillary. You deserve nothing and are entitled to nothing.
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 02:41 PM
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39. Exactly. If this were ANYONE besides Hillary demanding her pony...
...would we be having these issues?
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 02:39 PM
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33. All these stories are wishful thinking by Hillary. She is not getting on the ticket.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 02:40 PM
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35. "Make me your VP". "No."
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woolldog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 02:40 PM
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36. God no, please.
:puke:
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 02:40 PM
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37. BIG MISTAKE. n/t
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 02:43 PM
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42. 'Course she's denying it. Because we know exactly what she's going to do.
Take her cavalcade of manufactured outrage and imaginary grievances to the Convention, in hopes of sabotaging our party's nominee.

Bet you anything.
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Bread and Circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 02:45 PM
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44. Obama certainly doesn't need to worry about raising money from "women's groups"
or any other "special group" for that matter.

Money, is the one thing Obama doesn't have to worry about.

People like me will double or triple their $$$ contributions when this fucking primary is over.
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gmudem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 02:48 PM
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46. This is an inside the belway media fantasy
That has nothing to do with reality and is never going to happen. Obama clearly does not want her as VP, and why the hell would he?
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 02:59 PM
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50. The CNN story was pure Hillary fantasy. She gets nothing.
She behaved badly and now she's carved herself out of the next administration.
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