Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

If something happens to Obama, HRC will be the last one standing

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU
 
mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 03:05 PM
Original message
If something happens to Obama, HRC will be the last one standing
Hillary will be the democratic nominee if something happens to Obama.
Why would she leave the race until it is all but certain that she cannot win the nomination.
Know one knows what tomorrow will bring.
I hear Hillary Clinton has mentioned the threats facing Obama.

Pray for Barack Obama. Assassination is still a political tool.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
grassfed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 03:08 PM
Response to Original message
1. How do you sleep?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 03:09 PM
Response to Reply #1
2. link
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
thoughtcrime1984 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 03:10 PM
Response to Reply #1
4. How does she sleep? nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 03:11 PM
Response to Reply #1
6. or to put it another way-
"Capitalism is the extraordinary belief that the nastiest of men, for the nastiest of reasons, will somehow work for the benefit of us all." - John Maynard Keynes

We must fight against this 'ends justify the means' mentality my friend.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
grassfed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 03:14 PM
Response to Reply #1
9. I misread your post - it sounded like you were qualifying her comment
apologies
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 03:22 PM
Response to Reply #9
13. God Bless You
I dig your avatar my friend. Peace and low stress:pals:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 03:10 PM
Response to Original message
3. Well Hillary agrees with you
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 03:13 PM
Original message
she don't agree with me.
I just stated a premise for her staying in the race.
I'm more of a NYS third party voter, unless the dem running needs my vote to win.
Obama has given me hope. Very rare indeed.
That alone make me fearful for his safety.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Raven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 03:11 PM
Response to Original message
5. This post is unacceptable and Hillary Clinton has faciliated this talk.
It is absolutely unacceptable to me for DU to be carrying on this assissination talk about a presidential candidate...any presidential candidate. Clinton started this and we should not be picking it up. It is grotesque and beyond the moral pale. This is a disgraceful way to continue the politial debate and I ask you to lock this and I hope Clinton will return to her senses before the sick people out there begin to think assassination is an acceptable topic of discussion or an acceptable way to resolve differences. Delete this post, PLEASE!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 03:19 PM
Response to Reply #5
10. raven, you and I have been on DU for a long time my friend
I am a pacifist.
I am a leftist.
I've seen all that is good in this world be taken from us.
JFK
RFK
King
Lennon
(imho, they even took a shot at Ray-gun to let him know who is in charge - 'mommy' is not in charge)
I've seen what corporations can do to frame the debate.
I've seen America turn into a nation of sheeple.
Pre-emptive war based on 935 distinct lies.
9-11-01 - lihop?

Either the fascists do not fear Obama, and he is one of their puppets, or those with power have something to fear from a Obama victory.

Frankly, I hope it is the former. My liberal leftist politics have been let down before (Bigdog, Spitzer). I can handle that. I cannot handle the latter.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
CakeGrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 03:12 PM
Response to Original message
7. "Anything can happen!"
The whole Clinton crew should be under investigation after she's starting to spew about the RFK assassination.

:wtf:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 03:13 PM
Response to Original message
8. Nonsense. She Could Suspend Her Campaign
And accomplish exactly the same thing, without further attacks on the DNC, the nominee, blacks, and men.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 03:20 PM
Response to Reply #8
12. That would open up the floor to Edwards
but, yeah, I agree.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 06:51 PM
Response to Reply #12
20. If She Suspends, She Keeps Her Delegates [nt]
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 03:20 PM
Response to Original message
11. In such a case, all bets are off. Someone else could be named.
I would argue that this would be especially necessary given HRC's statement.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 03:24 PM
Response to Original message
14. Hillary is the political tool, and a vile one at that.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Exultant Democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 03:27 PM
Response to Original message
15. I hope Gore or Edwards would step in, now after this.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 06:52 PM
Response to Reply #15
22. Quite.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
VotesForWomen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 03:43 PM
Response to Original message
16. put down the koolaid and your copy of the Clinton Chronicals and you might see things more clearly.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
martymar64 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 07:07 PM
Response to Reply #16
26. Fuck off, Sirhan!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
CaptJasHook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 07:13 PM
Response to Reply #16
29. Mindless Hillbots unite under a woman.
Who is the sexist now?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 03:44 PM
Response to Original message
17. If something happens to our nominee then Edwards should be brought in instead
Edited on Fri May-23-08 03:45 PM by bambino
I wouldn't want Clinton to step in after this.

I hope nothing happens to our Barack.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ericgtr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 03:45 PM
Response to Original message
18. Sorry but after today's assisi nation statement she can go to hell
and if something were to happen to him the public would crucify her.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 06:55 PM
Response to Reply #18
23. If something happens to him
I will not vote for her.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
lurky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 04:01 PM
Response to Original message
19. No. She would (not will) be the lead suspect in the eyes of many.
I can't imagine that Obama's delegates would be eager to nominate her under those circumstances. She would be tainted and enter the general with a black cloud of suspicion over her head. It would be a disaster.

I would expect someone like Gore to step in at the convention.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 06:51 PM
Response to Original message
21. fuck you.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 06:59 PM
Response to Reply #21
24. me?
for true?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
martymar64 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 07:05 PM
Response to Original message
25. If anything happens to Obama, I'll blame hillary.
Her wishful thinking will prove her undoing. She'll never get me vote now under ANY circumstance.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
WA98070 Donating Member (782 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 07:08 PM
Response to Original message
27. All delegates should pledge to support anyone but Hillary should the worst happen.
I posted this thread earlier, please K & R
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 07:10 PM
Response to Original message
28. If she were planning his assassination, I doubt she'd predict it to a SD editorial board. nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
4_Legs_Good Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 07:14 PM
Response to Original message
30. Doesn't matter if she's the last one standing if she doesn't have the nomination
It does not make her the candidate. I expect someone else would and SHOULD stand up to take Obama's mantle. This is really a bad conversation, but I certainly wouldn't support HRC as the last person standing. I'd much prefer someone else to step up and challenge her, like Gore or Edwards.

David
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 07:15 PM
Response to Original message
31. There is no guarantee she would be the nominee if something happened to Obama
she is damaged goods. Obama supporters/delegates would probably reject her and I think the party would unite behind somebody less damaging like Gore or Edwards.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
last1standing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 07:15 PM
Response to Original message
32. She will NEVER be last1standing!
And I resent the implication.

:dunce:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 07:16 PM
Response to Original message
33. that's what we're hoping for...
the "catastrophic event" that will hand Hillary the nomination. I don't understand why anyone is upset by this.
Clinton campaign on ropes
BY JOHN GUERRIERO

Published: May 08. 2008 6:00AM
Murray, who has supported Bill and Hillary Clinton since 1991, said these are tough times for people like him who are in the Clinton camp but want to unify the party.

"The sense is, absent some catastrophic event that would take place in this campaign, it's going to be very difficult to see a path to victory for Hillary given what happened" Tuesday, Murray said.
http://www.goerie.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080508/NEWS02/805080437



Sun May 11, 2008

Analysis: Could Clinton land the VP nomination?

Several Clinton associates say there is still a ray of hope among some in her campaign: that a "catastrophic" revelation about Obama might make it possible for her to win the presidential nomination.
But barring that, Hillary and Bill Clinton recognize that her candidacy is being abandoned and rejected by superdelegates whom she once expected to win over and that, even if she were to win the popular vote in combined primary states, she will almost certainly be denied the nomination.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/05/10/bernstein.clinton/index.html?section=cnn_latest


CBSNews.com Reports: N.Y. Senator Now Faces Nearly Impossible Odds To Capturing Democratic Nomination

May 7, 2008

Clinton's Path To Victory Slipping Away
There is one scenario which does work for Clinton and that’s a massive movement of superdelegates leaving Obama and supporting her. The party leaders could do that, but it would take some unforeseen development in the race between now and the convention for them to do so. Obama, in some way, would have to be rendered so unelectable that the party rejects him at the convention. That’s not much to hang a hat on but it’s starting to look like her best option.

And even that might not be a viable option, said Joe Trippi. “Even if the catastrophic thing existed or happened, if she were perceived to have caused it, I think it would end her campaign too,” Trippi said. I don’t think there’s any way now for her to gain the nomination. She’s at the point now where if she tries to make a case against Obama, it will actually speed up superdelegates joining his cause just to shut the campaign down.”

But Trippi notes that the Obama campaign and Democratic leaders are still likely to give Clinton the room she needs to go forward on her own terms, provided that she does so in a positive manner. “I think there’s lots of tolerance for her going on, running the table into the convention and having a presence there,” he said. “But if she actually tries to compete in the trenches for the nomination in a way that looks like it’s damaging the nominee … I don’t think there will be any tolerance for that at all.”
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/05/07/politics/main4078586.shtml
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 07:18 PM
Response to Original message
34. She hopes something will happen. Gee I wonder what it is? She can go f*ck off.
:evilfrown:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Fri May 03rd 2024, 07:36 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC