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The Ghost Donating Member (557 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 06:34 PM
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Assassination as political gain.
Hillary's comments today are yet another example of extremely poor judgement, hysteria, and MADNESS. She is not stupid, she is evil, and she knows EXACTLY what she is saying, WHY she is saying it, and WHEN she is saying it. She and her campaign has been saying the past few days that the reason she is losing is because everyone and the media are sexist. Now she says this. If she wants to bring up some bullshit about why the race is going on, she should not NOT be so insensitive as to bring up ASSASSINATION to support her theory. And if she wants to bring up examples of how long a primary race has gone on, why is she bringing this one up? Why not 1972? Why not 1984? It's outrageous and she knew what she was saying. This is NOT the first time her and her campaign has brought up assassination referring to Obama. It's actually the third at least. It's bad enough that Obama has to have secret service protection because of the constant threats he receives (he is not supposed to have protection until he becomes the nominee, but because threats to him are so bad, hes had it since like the summer of LAST year, well before hes even the nominee), so to be so stupid to say what she said is outright disgusting.

These remarks are something you hear out of Ann Coulter, not from a democrat about another democrat, or any human being.

Shame on YOU, Hillary Clinton.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 06:35 PM
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1. Its a hit on Obama Supporters
They know our biggest fear is something happening to Obama. :cry: She is a vile human being.
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PoliticalAmazon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 06:36 PM
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2. Even Bush/Rove never used assassination as a campaign strategy....
In light of that fact, I think Obama would be safer with Bush Jr as a VP than Hillary Clinton.

And the SDs...when are they going to act? Is Hillary's latest campaign strategy the new norm for the Democratic Party?
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Gore1FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 06:40 PM
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5. Sure they did-- they just used it enmass under the cover of Natinal security to provoke fear
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PoliticalAmazon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 06:42 PM
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6. You lie in your twisting. They NEVER used assassination as a campaign strategy against another....
candidate.

Hillary is so far beyond redemption, she is a humiliation to us all.
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Gore1FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 06:49 PM
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8. I lie?
I am not defending Hillary. What she did was outrageous. I am just saying Bush and Rove used the possibility of mass deaths in their campaigns. I rank that higher than the suggestion of possible assassination.

Beyond your personal poor characterization of this Obama Supporter, I tend to agree with your basic assessment of Clinton. But make no mistake, Rove and Bush managed far worse and far more frequent outrageous speech and behavior.
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PoliticalAmazon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 07:26 PM
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11. You are wrong. Name me one time when Bush told the press...
"I'm staying in the race in case Al Gore gets assasinated."
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Gore1FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 07:33 PM
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12. Lets go thorugh this....
Bush and Rove used fear of WMD and loss of life in the U.S. for political gain. I consider that assassination en mass.

I also consider threatening the death of thousands or millions to be worse than what Hillary did. However, what Hillary did was pretty damned awful, unacceptable, and pretty much the end of her presidential ambitions forever--quite possibly her Senate ambitions too.

I am not excusing Hillary. I am making sure you are not excusing Bush.
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Gore1FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 06:54 PM
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9. Will I get an apology in print,or just assume one is implied?
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 07:43 PM
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13. Sure They Did. Or They Would Have Had to Run Against Paul Wellstone in 2004







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grassfed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 06:36 PM
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3. It was rehearsed - there are many other "June" examples - there is no defense
For those who contend that Clinton was referring to competitive contests or example, why didn't she bring up Ted Kennedy in 1980? Or Gary Hart in 1984? I think she was pointing to primary races where the eventual nominee was unknown at this point in the cycle.... But 1984 would apply more, her husband was the de-facto nominee at this point, and the compressed calender really renders such comparisons null and void.

She made an apology to the Kennedy family, not to Senator Obama. Since some seem unwilling to point out why this remark was more than unfortunate, it is worth remembering that we have the first black candidate for president. You only have to spend a few minutes talking with African-Americans about this campaign to discover that the fear that Obama could be assassinated is very much on their minds. It is in everyone's subconscious, especially Michelle Obama's. To refer to the June assassination of Bobby Kennedy in the context of reasons to stay in this interminable race against Barack Obama is therefore catastrophically inappropriate. Coming after her pitch for "white votes", it is reckless.

As for her argument that June primaries are nothing new, she is correct. But in no previous primary election did the voting start just after New Years' Day. The New Hampshire primary in 1968 was on March 12, two months later than this year. For June, therefore, read August. Yes, this season has gone on for ever. And for Senator Clinton, it has now obviously gone on too long.

She's been waiting for Obama to implode. Instead, she just has.

http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/


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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 06:39 PM
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4. I agree - she knew just what she was doing...
It's not the first time she mentioned it ~ and she's been saying "anything can happen" all along. She's only sorry it backfired, and hasn't even bothered to apologize to Senator Obama.

I think people keep giving her the benefit of the doubt because they don't want to believe she (and Bill) could be so calculating and coldhearted ~ and they don't want to believe they've been fooled all these years either.

I was fooled too ~ worked on both of Bill's campaigns ~ but they really are THAT BAD!
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LibraLiz1973 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 06:44 PM
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7. Please, post more threads about it.
Because the more you say it, the more true it is.
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Life Long Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 07:00 PM
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10. Does anyone want this kind of talk all summer?
Does anyone feel she is in self destruct mode?

Clinton supporters - ones who will be sticking around in the Democratic party, need to save the presumed nominee from damage you yourself would rather not see, or you yourself 'had and have' no intention of staying with the Democratic party.
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