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Phoebe Loosinhouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 06:46 PM
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Hillary's not alone -jackass media has said "barring something catastrophic" Obama's the nominee
I have heard that any number of times. I have NEVER heard language like that in ANY primary or election before this one. It is sinister on a number of levels:

1. They are implying that "something" we don't know about will become known - some scandal, etc.

2. Or they are implying what Hillary has mentioned more than once - RFK, etc.

It is disgusting, it is vile, it is creepy, it is BEYOND THE PALE and not acceptable whether by the media or Hillary or any candidate.
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 06:47 PM
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1. That is a good example of the media's story mongering.
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Double T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 06:49 PM
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2. When the 'something' is revealed, perhaps there will MANY supporters.........
that will NO LONGER support.
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 06:53 PM
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8. What will be revealed? nt
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Double T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 08:24 PM
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22. Stay tuned to MOST of these RW owned and operated stations.
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Bad Thoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 06:50 PM
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3. And yet they aren't calling for Clinton to continue campaigning. n/t
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reflection Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 06:50 PM
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4. I don't buy that at all.
"Catastrophic" implies any number of things. Car wrecks, plane crashes, heart attacks, many things out of one's control.

"Assassination" implies the first image that comes to everyone's mind. Someone getting the top of their head sheared off with a bullet.
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izquierdista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 07:30 PM
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17. And in one's control
Being caught in a state of undress with a dead girl or a live boy, to mention two. But enough about Republicans.....
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 07:34 PM
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19. When have we *ever*...
had a candidate stay in after they have lost because something "catastrophic" may happen to the presumptive nominee? It's an insane premise and it is ghoulish at best.
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 06:51 PM
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5. And they were talking about some skeletan in his closet. Nobody
EVER mentions assassination but Hillary Clinton.
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 06:55 PM
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10. Don't agree - most of the current media are old enough
to have remembered the JFK assassination, or MLK and RFK. The 2 attempts on President Ford and the near fatal shooting of Reagan.

And that Obama is a black candidate with the hints he's a Muslim swirling they are well aware he's at great risk from the whackos in this country.

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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 06:52 PM
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6. Yep. "Unless he's carried away in handcuffed" or "jailed"
Hmm... Curious scenarios they always seem to come up with.
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Diane R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 06:53 PM
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7. How many times has Kiki smiled her wicked grin and said, "In case something happens"?
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Kutjara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 06:54 PM
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9. They all know the country houses thousands of...
...psychos, bigots, zealots, apocalyptics, and self-anointed messiahs, just waiting for a "sign" to point their way to glory. Enough prodding from the echo chamber, and even the densest wannabe "hero" will start to feel like he's been "chosen."
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 06:55 PM
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11. It's always been hilary and the mediawhores..
don't you think they want a candidate like hilary instead of Obama who's into reality?

hilary's their mealticket..
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 06:57 PM
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12. I think they've been given "license" to do that b/o the continuing HRC Meme that "ANYTHING CAN
HAPPEN".. and the fact that when absolutely NO ONE calls her, for months, on her bullshit meme of staying in against ALL Possible odds, the only way to rationalize continued coverage of her HISTORICALLY FAILED campaign is to concede: "Something might happen".
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dave29 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 06:58 PM
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13. so they brought assassination up as a reson to stay in the race?
please link
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 07:26 PM
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14. Oh come now...
the campaign themselves floated the "catastrophic event" possibility as a means to get the nomination. Don't we all know that this is the reason why Clinton is still in the race?
Clinton campaign on ropes
BY JOHN GUERRIERO

Published: May 08. 2008 6:00AM
Murray, who has supported Bill and Hillary Clinton since 1991, said these are tough times for people like him who are in the Clinton camp but want to unify the party.

"The sense is, absent some catastrophic event that would take place in this campaign, it's going to be very difficult to see a path to victory for Hillary given what happened" Tuesday, Murray said.
http://www.goerie.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080508/NEWS02/805080437



Sun May 11, 2008

Analysis: Could Clinton land the VP nomination?

Several Clinton associates say there is still a ray of hope among some in her campaign: that a "catastrophic" revelation about Obama might make it possible for her to win the presidential nomination.
But barring that, Hillary and Bill Clinton recognize that her candidacy is being abandoned and rejected by superdelegates whom she once expected to win over and that, even if she were to win the popular vote in combined primary states, she will almost certainly be denied the nomination.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/05/10/bernstein.clinton/index.html?section=cnn_latest


CBSNews.com Reports: N.Y. Senator Now Faces Nearly Impossible Odds To Capturing Democratic Nomination

May 7, 2008

Clinton's Path To Victory Slipping Away
There is one scenario which does work for Clinton and that’s a massive movement of superdelegates leaving Obama and supporting her. The party leaders could do that, but it would take some unforeseen development in the race between now and the convention for them to do so. Obama, in some way, would have to be rendered so unelectable that the party rejects him at the convention. That’s not much to hang a hat on but it’s starting to look like her best option.

And even that might not be a viable option, said Joe Trippi. “Even if the catastrophic thing existed or happened, if she were perceived to have caused it, I think it would end her campaign too,” Trippi said. I don’t think there’s any way now for her to gain the nomination. She’s at the point now where if she tries to make a case against Obama, it will actually speed up superdelegates joining his cause just to shut the campaign down.”

But Trippi notes that the Obama campaign and Democratic leaders are still likely to give Clinton the room she needs to go forward on her own terms, provided that she does so in a positive manner. “I think there’s lots of tolerance for her going on, running the table into the convention and having a presence there,” he said. “But if she actually tries to compete in the trenches for the nomination in a way that looks like it’s damaging the nominee … I don’t think there will be any tolerance for that at all.”
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/05/07/politics/main4078586.shtml
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 07:28 PM
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15. I agree, I've cringed every time I heard them say it
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WA98296 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 07:28 PM
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16. The only thing catastrophic is HER mouth.
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krawhitham Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 07:32 PM
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18. catastrophic = Being caught with a dead girl or an alive boy
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Phoebe Loosinhouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 08:03 PM
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20. How does the media excuse their own commentary?
Double dose of irony as they bore down on Hillary (justifiably)

Do they have a clue?

When they talk about McCain do they say he is the nominee "barring something catastrophic"?

Answer - no, they don't even though McCain has a Halloween store full of skeletons plus extra offsite storage filled with more.
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barack the house Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 08:06 PM
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21. Catastrophic does include accidental death,so no harm there. Although I don't feel HRC meant ill wil
this time around.
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TheZug Donating Member (886 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 08:26 PM
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23. I agree, but Clinton's surrogates have been pushing this meme for weeks.
Saying "anything could happen."

None of them except Hillary had the nerve to actually mention RFK, but obviously that's what they all wanted everyone to think about.
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Phoebe Loosinhouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 06:29 AM
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24. I think that meme has died a timely death.
The next one of her surrogates says anything like that, which they do frequently, the questioner now has to ask "anything meaning what exactly?"

Finally they are exposed for their vile tactics.
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 06:35 AM
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25. You just don't understand the politics of hope!
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JTFrog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 06:38 AM
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26. The politics of hoping your candidate suffers something catastrophic?
We understand the implications of this dog whistle crystal clear.
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