I will not apologize for being angry

I will not apologize for getting mad that a person, arguably suffering from delusions,implies that this hope and change candidate might be killed like the last hope and change candidate.

It blows my mind that there are some out there trying to make those of us who find that statement reprehensible the bad guys and the over reactors. We're really supposed to laugh it off and go "thats just our Hillary!" like a bunch of clowns? I don't even care that the nomination process is all but over. It could be the third year of Obama's second term and there would be NO excuse for Hillary, or anyone else, to hint about assassination.

Those who see this statement for what it is are the people who have not allowed the primary to suck out their brains and their principals. I don't know what kind of strange world one has to live in to defend her comments.

This time she isn't getting away with it.

Not this time.

http://www.talkleft.com/story/2008/5/23/213914/479

“I’ve heard her make that argument before,” Mr. Kennedy said, speaking on his cell phone as he drove to the family compound in Hyannis for the holiday weekend. “It sounds like she was invoking a familiar historical circumstance in support of her argument for continuing her campaign.” . . . is support of Mrs. Clinton has not wavered.
More from RFK, Jr.:

I have heard her make this reference before, also citing her husband's 1992 race, both of which were hard fought through June. I understand how highly charged the atmosphere is, but I think it is a mistake for people to take offense."

Plus he didn't even hear or see the video when he made this comment. You leave that part out of your spin.

:grr:

Don't forget to contact the DNC:
http://www.democrats.org/page/petition/chairman

:thumbsup:

Meme the Clinton supporters are spewing tonight is something they're going to find isn't so fake. She's going to exit this race in SHAME next week as a result of this "fake outrage". Mark it down.

She is someone who needs a long rest and a lot of self evaluation.

is allowed to be genuine, but when their candidate raises the specter of political assassination as a justification for staying in the race, we're not allowed to be angry.

The hypocrisy is palpable.

We have the same people shrugging their shoulders at the idea that Hillary would contemplate assassination as one of the events that could eliminate the leading contender for the nomination, leaving her as the supposed inheritor of the "hopes and dreams" cohort (in what universe?) and supposedly then even more able to win in November.

Let's step back and examine the "World as Hillary Sees It" - and apparently as her supporters see it.

She contemplates an array of possibilities that would eliminate Obama as the nominee. One is his assassination. After all, it's happened before, right?

So, if he's assassinated, she seems to believe that 17 million people who voted for Obama would see her as their second choice ... or only choice. She seems to believe that people would recover from the shock and - forgetting that she's actually alluded to such an event as one of the ways SHE could win that nomination - see her as the Rescuer of the aspirations of Democrats, progressives, and independents.

After all, a Martyr (Obama) is a great advantage to his party in the next election, right?

Bzzzt! Wrong. Nixon won in 1968.

As a matter of fact, if ANY event eliminates Obama as a nominee at this point, the Democrats can kiss the election goodbye.

A martyr has to be IN OFFICE for the Party to win the next election. Lincoln. Garfield. McKinley. JFK.

The very notion that people who favored Obama would largely support her - should an 'event' occur - PARTICULARLY since she's openly made such a conjecture on several occasions - is laughable. She'd be lucky to not drown in a veritable ocean of spit.

Yet some of HER supporters seem to think this is no big deal. (Yawn.) "Who else ya gonna get?" they smugly ask.

Wow.

But... golly. Let's talk about outrage.

How many weeks did we have to wade through the outrage about remarks OBAMA DIDN'T EVEN MAKE HIMSELF?? Patorbating 24/7 ... and 55 minutes of tabloid inquisition in lieu of anything resembling "debate."

How many MONTHS have we heard the constant litany of "bitter"? It played in ads. It was polled, queried, and dissected ENDLESSLY.

And the akin-to-Hitler comparisons evoked by "sweetie"? You'd think Michelle, Malia, and Sasha ALL appeared in burkhas walking 15 paces behind Obama as he arrived at the stage ... that rapist/abuser/sexist thug!!!

But Hillary contemplates how an assassination might make HER the nominee ... (yawn).

I'm convinced such folks are totally bat-shit insane ... worse than Tim McVeigh ... since at least HE did his own dirty work.

:puke:

We all remember Rev Wright, I mean my god you could not come to this board without seeing 10 Rev. Wright threads. Remember "typical white person" OMG, they were having hissy fits over that but when Hillary says something totally inappropriate........ Really a good number of them are showing their hypocrisy and showing how far they are willing to support this mad woman.

I need someone to tell me how I feel

they're downplaying it to the best of their abilities- not gonna work.

what was that about ppl asking her to leave on a high note??...somehow i think that's about as plausible as her sincerity in an apology.

this woman is simply sick and needs help. does she not have friends, relatives, husband?? oops the hubby is just as bad if not worse. bill clinton now looks like a deluded schizo. this woman wants O to be killed. she will do anything to go back to the white house. but she will never!!! over her own dead body!!

against

but if the Clinton's haven't done the right thing by Sunday then the calm part goes away.

:kick:

CONSTANTLY for weeks now.

She wants out.

Yes, she's conflicted. But she wants out.

She WANTS the authority to step in and stop her.

Secretly she'll be relieved to get out of politics.

as a bird in a tree to keep using it.

is better than none at all.

was any intent uttered that obama should be assassinated. Robert kennedy Jr said it best; "I’ve heard her make that argument before,” “It sounds like she was invoking a familiar historical circumstance in support of her argument for continuing her campaign.” .More from RFK, Jr.:

I have heard her make this reference before, also citing her husband's 1992 race, both of which were hard fought through June. I understand how highly charged the atmosphere is, but I think it is a mistake for people to take offense."

Well - if RFK's namesake is not upset with Hillary and understands what she was trying to say- maybe some of you should CHILL!

A. RFK also admitted that he had not head the statement yet or seen the video

B. Its reminiscent of Charlie Rangle's disbelief that Hillary would have boasted about having the support of "White people"

C. Its not RFK who was being threatened, it was Obama

I don't think I was aware just how effected many Americans have become from this administrations malicious practices, it has left far too many on the edge of reason.

and in a few days, she'll say some other bullshit thing that is way over the top.

it's what *she* does.

lost a wonderful man and a wonderful opportunity with RFK's murder and it makes me sick that she's done this. And I don't think it was a mistake at all-she's been playing the race card, playing up her support among blue-collar "hard-working whites" as she put it (translation: racists who consider blacks to be "lazy), which also played to the "welfare queen" stereotype, etc., etc. She knew exactly what she was saying.

and thanks for wording how many of us feel.

No apology needed. I feel the same way.

As if the venting today were not the express reason GD/P was invented. As if passionate Progressives are supposed to detach and ignore the Hillary s**t storm.

I was calling for unity the other week because after the Edwards endorsement, it looked like Hillary was going to back off. Well, she not only took off the gloves this week, she hit below the belt and in the kidneys, too. So it is time to return the favor.

The Non-fighters may look at the blood with disdain, but this is how revolution happens.

:hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug:

You make me laugh.

I know I am not. I have been mad at billary for months now, but now I am PISSED OFF!!!!!

Both of them need to take their asses back to Arkansas and go back to what they do best. Screw each other over, instead of the country.

before she gets even crazier.

their SLEW of threads. It's sort of humorous because they THINK that they're so stealth. :rofl:

it comes from Obama supporters.

I mean, here you sit, with your fisher-price "My First Terry McCaullife" spin set, spouting out attacks that have no basis in real life. Seriously, why do you do it?

I doubt it.


It is normally brought up in the form of "I'm so scared for Obama, they will be coming after him"

or the topic comes up from journalists and instead of waving off such talk we hear this- “I don’t lose sleep over it because the realities are that . . . as a black man . . . Barack can get shot going to the gas station,” Michelle Obama said in the interview, set to air Sunday night. “You can’t make decisions based on fear and the possibility of what might happen.”
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-0702110374feb11,1,6644355.story?track=rss

We all know that the people want Obama, its quite obvious now…. however is the campaign trail goin to be more dangerous versus someone like MCCAIN? After reading this story… it seems someone wants something to happen to our future president before he can even get a democratic nomination……………..
http://kulturedmindz.wordpress.com/2008/02/25/obama-in-danger/


"For many black supporters, there is a lot of anxiety that he will be killed, and it is on people's minds," said Melissa Harris-Lacewell, a Princeton University professor of political science and contemporary black culture.

"You can't make a prediction like this — like he has 'a 50 percent chance of getting shot.' But the greater his visibility and the greater his access to people, there is a danger," she said. http://www.washingtontimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080107/NATION/415598644/1001&template=printart

Obama must be wary of the assassin’s gun
BARACK Obama is crazy brave. His victory in Iowa puts him in the crosshairs of many a gun-toting racist for whom the thought of a black president is an abomination.

The prospect, even the likelihood, of assassination played a significant role in Colin Powell’s decision - and that of his wife - to abandon any thought of a presidential run. http://blogs.theaustralian.news.com.au/phillipadams/index.php/theaustralian/comments/obama_must_be_wary_of_the_assassins_gun

Obama Assassination?
If Obama wins the dem ticket in the presidential race, will the rednecks and white supremies make it their goal to assassinate him? I think it is very likely.

5 months ago
I hope they don't try it. The riots would be insane.
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20071129102237AAu3m6F&show=7

Bush gave Blackwater and companies like it a free ride on the government's dime and they no doubt want the gravy train to continue. Obama promises to apply the brakes. He therefore has some well-armed and lethally trained enemies that stand to lose their livelihoods if he follows through on his promise to end the Iraq occupation.

When the political winds blow toward radical change our recent history shows that there's a tendency for popular leaders on the left to face some form of unexplained tragedy.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/joseph-a-palermo/barack-obama-rfk-and-bl_b_79751.html

"People say that if he makes it, someone will have him killed," said Cheryle Boyd, 47, a cleaner.

"They say it would be the Ku Klux Klan or maybe the Mafia, the ones that got John F. Kennedy. I'm trying not to let it worry me. I pray that if he is elected then he serves his time and goes on with his life. But he's black and if he wins the presidency over a Caucasian then it would be trouble.

Sheryl Goens, 59, a physical therapist, said: "It would be very dangerous for Obama to be elected. He stands for a lot of the same things Martin Luther King stood for plus the Kennedy's are backing him."
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/1583820/Martin-Luther-King-anniversary-stokes-black-fears-of-Barack-Obama-assassination.html

There are literally thousands upon thousands upon thousands of references to this happening, and from people sympathetic to Obama.

I have learned at DU that people are quick to accuse me of lying, making shit up, spouting nonsense, but are not able to prove it or, more importantly, apologize when I back it up.

by playing into these fears?

at Hillary and because of that are willing to assign the most vile of charges against her with only wild speculation to back it up.

:eyes:

Clinton has debased the primary and divided the party.

We have a perfect right to be pissed about that.

- as

I'm enraged

I challenge anyone to question my outrage to my face. Anyone not outraged should be ashamed of themselves. This was no subtle message and there is no defense for them. Strange world should be changed to "deranged world". Only someone off kilter could begin to hear or read something benign out of her heinous comments.