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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 06:29 AM
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This is why she should have conceded gracefully months ago
It was obvious a couple of months ago that Hillary wasn't going to win the primary. She could have gracefully conceded then, exited on a high note that would have left her a well liked and well respected leader in our party.

But noooo, she had to stay in it, desperate to win at any cost. She has taken the low road for months now, spreading lies and fetid bullshit with a trowel. If that isn't enough, now she's appealing to the baser elements in our society, the racists, the bigots, etc. Now, to top that all off, she brings up the specter of another June assassination as her justification for staying in the race.

She needs to drop out now. She's making a fool of herself, embarrassing herself, cause harm and strife within the party. She can't win, that's been obvious for a couple of months. All she can do at this point is destroy things, the party, Obama, the country, her reputation. So she needs to drop out, and do so now. No VP, no campaigning, just endorse Obama and retreat back to New York, where if she is lucky she'll retain her Senate seat.

Any other option at this point is simply being deliberately destructive.
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 06:36 AM
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1. You Obama people were definitely not cut out for politics.
Edited on Sat May-24-08 06:36 AM by Perry Logan
If your opponent's staying in the race drives you nuts, politics might not be for you.

What other senator and serious White House contender would be likened by National Public Radio's political editor, Ken Rudin, to the demoniac, knife-wielding stalker played by Glenn Close in Fatal Attraction? Or described as "a fucking whore" by Randi Rhodes, one of the foremost personalities of the supposedly liberal Air America? Would Carl Bernstein (of Woodward and Bernstein fame) ever publicly declare his disgust about a male candidate's "thick ankles"? Could anybody have envisaged that a website set up specifically to oppose any other candidate would be called Citizens United Not Timid? (We do not need an acronym for that.)
...

Never before have the US media taken it upon themselves to proclaim the victor before the primary contests are over or the choice of all the super-delegates is known, and the result was that the media's tidal wave of sexism became self-fulfilling: Americans like to back winners, and polls immediately showed dramatic surges of support for Obama. A few brave souls had foreseen the merciless media campaign: "The press will savage her no matter what," predicted the Washington Post's national political correspondent, Dana Milbank, last December. "They really have their knives out for her, there's no question about it."

Here we come to the crunch. Hillary Clinton (along with her husband) is being universally depicted as a loathsome racist and negative campaigner, not so much because of anything she has said or done, but because the overwhelmingly pro-Obama media - consciously or unconsciously - are following the agenda of Senator Barack Obama and his chief strategist, David Axelrod, to tear to pieces the first serious female US presidential candidate in history.

"What's particularly saddening," says Paul Krugman, professor of economics and international affairs at Princeton and a rare dissenting voice from the left as a columnist in the New York Times, "is the way many Obama supporters seem happy with the . . . way pundits and some news organisations treat any action or statement by the Clintons, no matter how innocuous, as proof of evil intent." Despite widespread reporting to the contrary, Krugman believes that most of the "venom" in the campaign "is coming from supporters of Obama".

http://www.newstatesman.com/north-america/2008/05/obama-clinton-vote-usa-media

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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 06:43 AM
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3. How sadly predictable you are
Hillary opens mouth, fetid bullshit spews forth offending the vast majority of the party, and you try and play the victim card. Sorry, but that's not working anymore.

Oh, and as far as politics not being for me, I've been playing the political game since before you were a gleam in your daddy's eye. And never, ever have I played the po' widdle victim card, nor have I seen it played so much as Hillary has played it.

If you are a self proclaimed victim, perhaps you're not ready for the highest office in the land:shrug:
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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 08:09 AM
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14. I've said it from the beginning, she was President of the Young Republicans
don't trust her!
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hokies4ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 08:19 AM
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15. If you're defending why you should stay in the race, you aren't winning
and Hillary hasn't been able to pivot off of this, and it resulted in her latest gaffe. Brilliant move by the Obama campaign.
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Doug.Goodall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 06:42 AM
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2. I heard part of the interview
She sounded exhausted. Being desperate, behind in the polls, behind in delegates, behind in money, behind in support, she made comments that makes her look like a horse's behind.

There are too many evil people filled with hate out there to give them ideas about influencing elections through violence. Some mentally deficient hater might get a crazy idea and try to blame it on Hillary.

This would not be good for her. This would not be good for the Democrats. This would not be good for the country.

Hillary needs to just take a sabbatical to a remote island until after the convention in Denver, and let the Democrats nominate Obama in respectable fashion.
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 06:46 AM
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4. She's becoming an embarassment to herself,
And frankly I think that she's really starting to put her Senate seat in jeopardy. What's sad is that the vast majority of people didn't hate her going into this contest, just disagreed with her policies and positions. But after months of listening to racist and other downright fucked up statements from her, she has earned a ton of ill will and probably destroyed her career.
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Carolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 07:13 AM
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12. while I agree with most of what you said
I don't think her comment was a gaffe attributable to exhaustion. She has made reference to RFK's assassination twice before yesterday. Unfortunately, I think she's a cold-hearted narcissist and yesterday channeled her true, inner dark spirit.
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DeeDeeNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 06:56 AM
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5. Good points
But at this point, she has lost all perspective and is fighting on just for the sake of fighting on
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 06:58 AM
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7. At this point all she is doing is destroying her career,
And taking down the party in the process. Friends and party leaders need to start easing, or even pushing her out of the race, for the good of the party and Hillary herself.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 06:57 AM
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6. How "spot on" you are ... only the GOP use SMEAR and FEAR tactics. It's just vile. :(
Edited on Sat May-24-08 06:58 AM by ShortnFiery
Thanks for your commentary. :hi:
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 07:03 AM
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8. She's the drunk guest who won't go home.
You want to call a cab, but she wants another drink and to keep talking about HER.
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 07:07 AM
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9. Worse yet, now she's starting to puke all over,
And can't make it to the bathroom, outside or to a trashcan.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 07:11 AM
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11. She's broken that favorite vase you bought in Europe.
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Carolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 07:15 AM
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13. great analogy
Edited on Sat May-24-08 07:17 AM by Carolina
and ever notice how a drunkard's words while intoxicated reveal his/her true thoughts and inner psychosis!
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Carolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 07:10 AM
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10. Excellent post, K&R
She is a lying, narcissistic sociopath, and you're so right, at this point she is desperately and deliberately destructive.
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