Karma's not magic...

It's simply the law of cause and effect. How you treat others is a key determinant of how others will treat you.

What has Hillary put into this campaign? She has shown, repeatedly, an uncommon willingness to stoop to levels lower than most of us thought possible. She's taken advantage of every opportunity to twist the gaffes and less "fortunate" circumstances of her opponent to her advantage. "...as far as I know," was her response when she had the opportunity to either tell the truth about her opponent's faith or take advantage of some voters' ignorance. "I would not have stayed in the church..." was her response when a pastor's words were taken far out of context. She could have instead taken the opportunity to rise above the fray and help to heal our racial divisions, but that would have gone against her win-at-any-cost strategy. And instead of stating unequivocally that she didn't want the racist vote, she said "Obama's support among working, hard-working Americans, white Americans, is weakening again."

She's treated all of us as the "low information voters" her campaign has depended upon. She's assumed Americans are easily manipulated and unwilling to see beyond petty pandering and fear-mongering. She's forgotten what we've all lived through these past eight years and how tired we are of being treated in that very same way.

You reap what you sow, and Hillary has sown a fine crop.

I don't know what her intent was in mentioning RFK's assassination. That's for her shrink to figure out. But no matter, she has set the stage for the furor that has ensued. Her words will be interpreted as she has interpreted others'.

Karma's a bitch, isn't it, Senator Clinton?

Well, let's see if pissed off Hillary Clinton supporters come back to vote for Obama in November.

Oh, never mind. Obama won't need them. He has over 90% of all those African American voters. Hillary Clinton voters can screw off.

If you don't want to vote for Obama this fall, feel free. But don't blame it on religious principles you don't understand.

Obama will miss the votes of those who have been angered by some of his supporters, provided they are also unwilling to forgive. They also face a karmic test of possibly violating their conscience on issues that matter to them as Democrats, such as the makeup of the Supreme Court.

"It's simply the law of cause and effect. How you treat others is a key determinant of how others will treat you."

And I said: "Karma? Is that when bad things you do come back to hurt you?"

Bad karma. Good karma? Do unto others.......?

And it isn't about the feelings of Obama's supporters on some message board.

It is simply about which of the two major party candidates is more likely to implement policies that you want or are okay with.

That is ALL it is about. If you choose to bring emotion and ego into it, well that is unfortunate for you (because you will probably regret it later in life), but it really is your choice. Cut your nose off to spite your face, in other words.

And really, in what way has Obama been treating YOU badly?

The November election is not about me? That's an interesting comment.

there's just karma.

If you're really interested let me know and we can discuss, but it's really easy to describe and really tough to understand.

My point was about Hillary's actions, and viewing her current situation as a result of those actions. In other words, Hillary's actions have led to Hillary's reward. The cause and effect are confined to one person. Saying that Obama is going to be rewarded or punished for his supporters'/opponents' behavior has nothing to do with my point.

that felt good.
I think I have to read it again...

her gravest mistake was in underestimating Americans and treating everybody like one-size fits all....
Writing off the educateds sure was dumb, and treating all the less educateds like they're all stupid is dumb, too.

I think if Hillary had taken the high road she could be doing just as well or better than Obama by now.
But she decided to take the Rethuglican approach. As an elderly black voter said about Rethug dirty tricks at the polls, "we've seen this stuff BEFORE..."

Well Hillary we've seen this stuff BEFORE--in the last 8 years. So how do you think it works as a campaign strategy? I think the Tonya Harding analogy is well-deserved.

Karma usually doesn't come full circle as fast as it has in this campaign year, but Hillary is right now, in front of our eyes, reaping what she has sown. If I were her I'd get out of the way of whatever other hard lessons might be coming down the pike. She should go into the wilderness for awhile and seek enlightenment.

You've trashed so many people you just might need later and you want to talk Karma?! :wtf:

:rofl:

Love your sig. Too bad you can't take it to heart yourself.

I still think Obama's a net positive. DUers are DUers.

Right. Sure. Whatever you say. :crazy:

Thing is about karma, it doesn't have a timeline.

If she had voted against the war and ran a positive campaign, she would be the nominee. I hope to vote for a woman for president someday, but Hillary isn't the one.