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Aloha Spirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 09:16 PM
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Alaska Democrats have overwhelmingly backed Barack Obama at their state convention
http://community.adn.com/node/123980
"Alaska Democrats have overwhelmingly backed Barack Obama at their state convention, giving him more support over Hillary Clinton than even at the February caucuses. It’s the state convention that decides just how many Alaska delegates will back Obama at the party’s national convention, where the Democratic presidential nominee is decided.

The 355 state convention delegates – who were chosen at the February caucuses _ backed Obama by more than 77 percent here today. By the time all the arcane party wrangling was done, Obama ended up with 14 of Alaska’s 18 delegates to the national convention (including both regular and superdelegates.)"
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gabeana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 09:19 PM
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1. do you know if this increases his delegate lead n/t
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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 09:22 PM
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2. Good question, I'd like to know the answer as well. Where's grantcart when you need him?
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Aloha Spirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 09:23 PM
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4. Graaaaaant Caaaaahhhhrt!
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 11:36 PM
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37. sorry didn't see this thread
yes it is a pick up

Obama's magic number is 52
As always all the information from Demconwatch the most authoritative source of delegate matters
http://demconwatch.blogspot.com /

Obama picked up 4 on Saturday.

So far it's Obama 3, Clinton 1 for superdelegates
and Obama +1, Clinton -1 for pledged delegates


Alaska's state convention moved just 3 points from 74% to 77% and that enabled Obama to sweep the state delegates and pick an extra delegate and for Clinton to lose one.



Of course one is wondering if the news events of the last couple of days may have motivated a few Clinton delegates to change to Obama.




and for tomorrow:



Sunday is a big day for Hawaii



again from DemconWatch

Sunday. May 25, Hawaii Democrats hold their State Convention, followed by a meeting of the State Central Committee, at the Hilton Hawaiian Village Resort in Waikiki, and name their add-on, and also select a new state party chair and vice-chair, both of whom immediately become superdelegates. Obama won the Hawaii Caucuses. Candidates for the Chair position are Annelle Amaral and Brian Schatz. Schatz is a former member of Obama's campaign in Hawaii, and has been endorsed by Obama. Amaral is a Clinton supporter but has committed to voting for Obama at the convention. In addition, Obama has endorsed James Burns, former chief judge of the state Intermediate Court of Appeals, for the add-on position.




So the total for the weekend add ons will be Obama 6 Clinton 1 - Obama also picked up one pledge delegate and Clinton lost one so the net is Obama 7 and Clinton 0.

Other super delegates may announce as well.



so tomorrow the number will be

49

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WA98296 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 01:28 AM
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44. Great update!
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Aloha Spirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 09:23 PM
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3. I don't know for sure, but I think it means that the pledged delegate split changed from what was
previously announced, in Obama's favor.

Will post more as I know
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 09:25 PM
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5. I think this increases his lead, but by how much I am not sure...
Edited on Sat May-24-08 09:28 PM by IndyOp
His website shows that Alaska has 13 pledged delegates and that he got 9 and Clinton got 3.
Scroll down to Feb 5 here -> http://www.barackobama.com/resultscenter/index.php

The OP says that Alaska has 18 delegates and that he got 14 (5 more than shown on his website) to Clinton's 4 (1 more than shown on his website).

On edit - the OP clearly says that the 18 were pledged & superdelegates --

Had the superdelegates announced before? Are they already included in his superdelegate count?

Super Delegates
Total 796
Obama 311.5
Clinton 281.5

:shrug:

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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 09:28 PM
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8. The five are super delegates
One has gone for Clinton, three for Obama, and the fifth one hasn't decided yet.
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Gore1FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 09:33 PM
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13. According to Wiki (take it for what it is worth.
The pledged were estimated at a 9-4 split.

According to Demconwatch 3 AL supers were already on board with Obama, and one with Clinton. One is apparently uncommitted

According to the OP Obama ended up with 14 of Alaska’s 18

That means he either picked up an additional 2, an additional 1 and the remaining SD committed, or an additional 1 and an HRC SD changed.
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RNdaSilva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 01:38 AM
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45. Obama's Delegate Count
Edited on Sun May-25-08 02:06 AM by RNdaSilva
Senator Obama (w/o Michigan and Florida) is within 9 (6) delegates of a 200-point lead in total delegates. He should gain another in an hour or so in Alaska and another gain tomorrow in Hawaii. Hillary’s spokesperson, from CA, in Alaska didn’t fare too well. (Updates in parentheses)

He’s leading in pledged delegates by 159 (161) super delegates by 32 (33), 14-11 Governors, 20-13 Senators, 96 to 80 Representatives, a 3 point lead in the DNC and a 23(24)-17 lead in Add-ons. He’s trailing 6-9 in DPLers – should change by the 3rd of June.
(Updates in parentheses...including Alaska)

Obama will win in Montana and South Dakota...an even split in Puerto Rico would be neat but…

It is over…it has been over for months.

Update: Senator Obama is now within 6 delegates of a 200-point lead. He also gained another switched “pledged” delegate. Hillary should never have opened up that can of worms.

http://demconwatch.blogspot.com/2008/05/weekend-superdelegate-updates.html

Hawaii tomorrow...or today, depending on one’s time zone. Magic Number now 52, 49 tomorrow after Hawaii.

Mahalo
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 09:26 PM
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6. K/R
:bounce:
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 09:27 PM
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7. One was overhead saying: "We DOUBLE-DOG support him!"
:rofl:
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Aloha Spirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 09:29 PM
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9. OKay, based on teh gween papers, the Alaska state convention is a Bama Bump of 2 delegates.
Edited on Sat May-24-08 09:30 PM by beat tk
http://www.thegreenpapers.com/P08/AK-D.phtml

One delegate was the add-on that Obama winded up getting, and the other delegate was a result of the pledged delegates shifting from 9-4 to 10-3 based on Obama's support today.

edit--so before today, Obama had 9 pledged and 3 unpledged.
now, it's 10 pledged and 4 unpledged.
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 09:31 PM
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10. Good job! Thanks beat tk... (n/t)
:hi:
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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 09:33 PM
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14. "Bama Bump"
I LOVE IT!

:hi:
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Aloha Spirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 09:32 PM
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11. I just want to add, I remember cheering very loudly at a bar on primary night when Alaska came in
for Obama.

I hope our country can show Alaska some respect once the new guy moves into the White House.
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 09:33 PM
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12. And Wyoming bumps Obama up another "add-on" SD at their state convention ...
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Aloha Spirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 09:42 PM
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20. This makes me feel better about June 3.. South Dakota.... Montana... nt
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 09:49 PM
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24. I'd love to see this over before the 31st -- I think Rachel Maddow has some very
good points. If there is ANY chance that Clinton can appeal whatever the Rules Committee says on the 31st about Florida/Michigan delegates then she will, just to keep things in the air until August. If Obama can go into the meeting on the 31st able to offer to let her count 100% of Florida and Michigan and STILL have the number needed for the nomination then we can have a summer of fun registering new voters and dealing with the GOP slime machine. I think Rachel (early last week) that if he got 90 SD's before the 31st then the Rules Committee ruling is moot -- Clinton can have everything she wants and there will be no grounds for an appeal to be decided on the floor of the convention in August.
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Alia Donating Member (25 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 09:34 PM
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15. I'm glad Obama is closer to the nomination but...
I don't like pledged delegates switching their votes. I wish that rule change never happened.
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democrattotheend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 09:36 PM
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17. I'm not sure anyone switched their vote
It could just be that more of the people elected as Obama delegates in the first round showed up.
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Aloha Spirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 09:40 PM
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18. That's right, Obama get over 77% of the votes today, which earned him 10 out of the 13 pledged D's
13 * 0.77 = 10 !
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Alia Donating Member (25 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 09:48 PM
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23. I'll admit I'm not very familiar with the process.
I've never been a delegate myself. I just think that when you go to the national convention your state's delegate allocation should reflect the voting from your primary and/or caucus. I guess the way it is now allows for more debate and reflection at multiple stages of the process which can be a good thing too. It just feels like my vote becomes less significant.
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TheDoorbellRang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 10:29 PM
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32. The caucuses work differently than the primaries
The original caucus vote can change as it proceeds thru district, or county, or state conventions. It all depends on whose delegates continue to attend, I think. In Alaska, it looks like the Obama delegates were still pumped to attend; the Clinton delegates -- not so much.

The primaries have their own problems -- I suspect because of gerrymandering. Latest example is Kentucky, where Clinton won by 65-30%, and gained 37 vs 14 delegates. The delegate apportionment works out to 73-27%. Not exactly representational either, is it?
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Kittycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 11:25 PM
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34. That's not what happened. They had their state caucus, and
he garnered a greater % of the vote. The county-wide caucus is only a pre-lim to the state level that actually sends the delegates off to the convention. So consider this like the 'final' count. These are the official state pledged delegates, selected from a much larger pool of county dels.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 12:29 AM
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39. uh, alaska doesn't have counties.
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democrattotheend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 09:35 PM
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16. Interesting. I wonder if these conventions are any indication...
One thing I have been trying to quantify lately is how strong the movement of people who want Hillary to stay in and take it to the convention if necessary is. I feel like if there is really a groundswell of Hillary supporters who want her to keep fighting, wouldn't her supporters be showing up in droves for her at these state conventions? Aren't these people who were elected as delegates for the candidates in the first round? I read that in a few places, like Nevada last weekend and Iowa a few months ago, Obama ended up picking up delegates because more of the people elected as delegates for him at the caucuses showed up. If the movement for Clinton to stay in was so strong wouldn't she get an overwhelming turnout from her delegates at these things? Or does it not work that way? I live in a primary state so I don't understand this system all that well.
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smalll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 09:41 PM
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19. Congratulations! After packing another empty red state caucus, the Obama campaign
has been able to further game the system at the state convention so as to steal a couple extra delegates. A stellar example of the Obama Way.
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Gore1FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 09:42 PM
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21. Actually
Alaska has a chance of electing a Dem Senator this year AND supporting the Dem nominee for President in the GE.
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 11:18 PM
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33. Not only Dem senator but Dem representative, as well. n/t
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 09:48 PM
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22. You need to check out the Alaska polling, my friend.
.
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democrattotheend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 09:50 PM
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25. Hey, your signature line gave me a great idea for a button for my store
Obamamerica...that would look cool on a button. Thanks for the idea!
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smalll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 09:53 PM
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27. Lol - you're welcome! But honestly, I wonder if "Obamamerica" may sound a little -
Ayers-like, as it were.
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Aloha Spirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 10:08 PM
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29. Oooh sounds like somebody won't be getting a pony.


Still, you got a chuckle out of me!
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 11:37 PM
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38. ObamAmerica! I like
it. I've seen signs that say Obama For America and think of Dean 'cause that's what his banners said..which I thought was cool 'cause he really was for America, obviously.
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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 10:25 PM
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31. Damn Rules...they make me sick, how about you?
Edited on Sat May-24-08 10:25 PM by Tarheel_Dem
:rofl:!:rofl:!:rofl: How about some cheese to go with that whine?

You people are rich. You're crying because you've been out organized by a guy who is a reputed organizer. Admit it, you've been outwitted, outflanked & outlasted. It's fine to accuse Obama of stacking the deck, but childish not to blame the most well funded & infamous political machine of the last century for being pwned!
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 12:33 AM
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40. obviously you are talking out your ass. Alaska went for Obama
in the caucuses and solidified it in the state convention. Since you haven't got a damned clue, I guess I can look the other way. not everyone gets to live in God's country. I am sure you understand since it is the same length between our state capital and the end of the chain, and if we divided the state in two, we would still be the biggest and second biggest state. Come back when you have a clue.
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 12:36 AM
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42. Red state? You mean like KY? Or WV (technically a red state)?
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GoesTo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 03:00 AM
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46. How is Hillary supporters weak support - staying home - Obama's fault?
He didn't game this system. All that happened is that his supporters turned out to vote in the next round of the caucus. It's a good thing that our nominee is able to motivate his supporters to get out and vote.
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 09:51 PM
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26. Any chance we might carry Alaska this fall? n/t
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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 09:56 PM
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28. Yep. Haven't you noticed that the GOP has fucked them big time?
Their senators to everyone down at the local level are corrupt as all get-out. McCain will try to lock them up by mentioning ANWR; Obama will point out that there's a whole load of the same oil under private land right next to ANWR where drilling is legal and they haven't sunk any wells. I'd give us a 55% chance of picking up Alaska.
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 11:30 PM
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35. It's a good possibility.
First off, the majority of Alaskans are Independent or Undeclared, so they have no particular loyalty to the Republican party, and as the poster above mentioned, we've had our fill of corrupt Republican legislators.

On Super Tuesday in February, about 14,000 people voted in the Republican "presidential preference" poll, about 9,000 at the Democratic caucus, which is huge considering that in 2004 there were only about 250 people who showed up. Obama was the leading vote-getter at 6,674, Romney was second with 5,988. McCain came in last in the Republican poll, with 2,132. So the question is how are the independents going to vote, and what about the 12,000 Republican primary voters who voted "anybody but McCain."

It should be a very interesting election here, especially since the House and Senate seats are very much up for grabs this year for the first time in 35 years.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 12:34 AM
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41. yes. Young and stevens could be gone. great, huh?
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 10:11 PM
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30. Awesome!!
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 11:32 PM
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36. You mean lynne woolsley's "but, hilary won in West Virginia"
didn't cut the ice?
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4_Legs_Good Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 12:39 AM
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43. I want Alaska to go blue in November
Come on! PLEASE!!! This state is just too gorgeous to be allowed to continue red.

What's it gonna take?

David
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VotesForWomen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 04:40 AM
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47. gotta love those caucuses. too bad the GE isn't a caucus. nt
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