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dajoki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 02:34 PM
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Now is the time!!
Edited on Sun May-25-08 02:41 PM by dajoki
I believe that it is now well past the time when Hillary should give up on her campaign, not only because of the most recent foot in mouth disorder which she has displayed throughout her run, but because it is OVER!! There is no way she can win without somehow breaking the rules which she agreed to in the first place, and even then she would be "stealing" it.

I was a hardcore Edwards supporter who has said from the begining that I will support and vote for our party's nominee and I am going to do so. When JRE dropped out of the race I had a hard time deciding who to support and I guess I sort of went with the flow, all the while watching how both remaining candidates handled themselves, who came closest to Edwards views and who would have the best chance at winning the GE.

It is now very clear, to me at least, that the only choice is Obama. He has kept as far above the fray as possible considering Hillary has done her best to drag him through the mud. Also the endorsement from Edwards has helped, but by no means was the only reason I will now support Obama. After this very devisive primary campaign I believe it is imperative that we now put all of our energy into defeating McCain.

I have seen right here and everywhere else you care to look that many of Hillary's supporters will not vote for Obama, unless we want at least four more years of the same, this is complete nonsense!! Hillary can go a long way to unite our party by dropping out NOW and doing her utmost to get her supporters behind Obama and giving him their FULL SUPPORT!! I believe there is no way we can win in November if we remain as divided as we are now.

Finally, Obama must now be allowed to focus on the GE, he has been their target for some time now and he should be given the opportunity to start returning the fire without having to deflect all the Democratic infighting. I've been around a long time and have rarely seen the Repubs so ripe for the taking, let's not hand them a victory when we are so close to the prize!!
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rock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 04:02 PM
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1. So let me make sure I understand
1) your guy's ahead
2) you want everybody that's not your guy to drop out
Have I missed anything?
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DogPoundPup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 04:04 PM
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2. Yea, you do seem to intentionally miss the FL/MI debacle
Nothing reveals more clearly how utterly unprincipled the Clintons are than their assertion that rules set by the Democratic Party's Rules Committee, and endorsed by all Clinton representatives on this Committee, now should be abandoned. Nothing reveals more clearly that the only rules the Clintons follow are rules which favor them. Nothing reveals how exaggerated their claims are than Hillary's recent comparison of the votes in Michigan and Florida to the civil rights movement, the suffragette movement, the fraudulent election in Zimbabwe and the 2000 election in Florida.

The outlines of this story are simple and straight-forward: Two states, Michigan and Florida, sought to advance their Democratic primary elections ahead of other states in order to increase their influence in the primary process. If they had been allowed to do so, Democratic parties in other states could have done the same, it would have become a frantic, disorganized race to be the first, or among the first, state primaries, and the primary season could have been extended substantially. The Democratic Rules Committee reviewed this, understood that chaos would ensue if every state party could advance their presidential primaries unilaterally, and ruled that if Michigan and Florida advanced their primaries, the votes would not count in the delegate race.

Hillary Clinton had 15 representatives on the 30-member Rules Committee and every single one of Clinton's representatives supported this Rules Committee decision, which passed unanimously; Democratic parties in 48 states followed the rule, but Michigan and Florida chose not to.
http://www.alternet.org/election08/86359
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 04:08 PM
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4. If Hillary gets everything that she wants at MI/FL then
she still needs 74% of the remaining delegates to win
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 04:05 PM
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3. Stay in
1) Hillary needs 86% of the remaining delegates to win the nomination

2) Obama needs 49 or 14% of the remaining delegates.

Out of consideration those figures do not include the 'pledged delegates' that were chosen by the Clinton campaign but have now endorsed Senator Obama.

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