Joan Walsh in Salon: "A new low in Clinton bashing"

Joan Walsh comments on The Emperor's New Gaffe in Salon. At one point, she says "the Clinton-hate is in danger of damaging the Democratic Party," which has GOT to be the understatement of the century!


http://www.salon.com/opinion/walsh/election_2008/2008/05/27/clinton_bashing/index.html

Truth hurt that much? YOu are hurting DU and the Party!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3U0df0qGoA JOAN WALSH~ TWEETY AND "ASSHOLE" ..OBAMA CAMPAIGN SPREADS LIE! proof!

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... and has worked tirelessly to make the world aware of Sudanese slavery, among many other noble things.

Just because he's not supporting your gal doesn't make him an "asshole." I wonder when the last time Joan Walsh went on a hunger strike to protest the Sudanese government?

You people grow more shameless by the day. :eyes:

Worth it just for that.

:rofl: Or take something that helps you calm down.

that the earth is round. Well I say burn him! Burn him now.

:sarcasm:

Luv'im to bitz!

herself. I am not reupping for Salon when it winds down. she is an ass

What are you doing.

Thanks for posting Perry.

That's how Axlerod Inc works.

Seriously ...

She transformed herself halfway through the campaign into the "fighter" who has stood up to right wing and will fight them tooth and nails ... NOW, she is a victim ???

How can you claim to be a fighter while at the same time claiming to be a victim ...

That aside, as Jon Stewart aptly noted last night ... You can now add the "vast left wing conspiracy" to the right wing one, and basically EVERYONE is out to get Hillary ... Either pathetic political posturing or a serious case of paronoia ...

:thumbsup:

The Clintons made their bones by playing off both sides of the political spectrum. Now, the spectrum has turn on them.

She was utterly irrational. Something's not right there.

Obama's Assassination Of The Truth

http://tominpaine.blogspot.com/2008/05/rfk-assassination-character.html

His fake and pitiful outrage makes him appear as an eighth grader who thinks he knows
more than he does. He has manufactured a cause from his own emptiness.

since when has he cut bush slack? perhaps he is just calling it like he sees it.

Watching that last night, I was just squirming. I actually felt bad for her and the way she was embarrassing herself.

She is supposed to look like she is a Dem and talk like a Dem.

So how does one explain that she runs an organization that could actually have a decent writer covering the election machinery issues, and the stolen election machinery issues, but instead employs the journalist Farhad Manjoo.

He is to a discussion of election machinery as the Republicans are to gay marriage.

I think that she is a troll.

If Salon wants to cut it these days, for something other than their content focusing on kinky sex, they need to find themselves a print version of Rachel Maddow, and fast!

Even Dee Dee Myers recognized that there are some things you simply DO NOT SAY, and Hillary said them.

Blaming Axelrod is ridiculous, when everyone knows that Drudge drives media coverage period.

for dealing head on with "peer pressure." Amazing, isn't it?

Rec.

Somebody needs to take their meds. That's just nuts.

Dang, it has been a long campaign season, but really. That was a huge gaff by the Obama campaign. Had Clinton said something similar, the media would have sunk her. Obama got a free-pass relatively speaking.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=ylDrp9Tqj2I&feature=related

That's why he's leading. How could she ever have won with EVERYONE against her and totally biased.

since DAY ONE. :eyes:

She's still a Hillary shill, however you spell her name. :-)

Guess that shows how much her opinion is revered?

Guess it's WAlsh not WOlsh?

I'm going to have to tune into "Hairballs" today and see if MSNBC continues to depict her as "Joan Wolsh" of SALON at the bottom of our TV screens. :shrug:

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

But thanks for spinning.

The way Bill Clinton parses language, it's obvious he is well aware of the vagueries of communication. And Hillary is not a stupid woman, regardless of what she wants to convey to the public.
Weren't there other campaign snafus that she could have mentioned other than assassination? Especially in the context of Huckabee's recent gaffe it is just ridiculous that she wouldn't be implying the connection everyone else made.
How about referring to a possible "bimbo eruption" like Gennifer Flowers. She could speak from actual experience about that.

Your leaders are lying to you.

To believe that Hillary wasn't implying that Obama might be assassinated I would have to believe that she is stupid and I don't believe that.

To sell the idea that Hillary was implying that Obama might be assassinated you would have to believe that your customers are stupid.

That is the great failing of the intelligent who use their cerebral power to manipulate the less intelligent. Words are twisted and parsed and when they are called on it, they have arguments about what they really meant or the real meaning of a word.

It's not a leadership quality I admite, but I do grant that it is found admirable by others.

Golly, just because The Huckster's gruesome attempt at humor -- joking at an NRA convention about Barack ducking bullets-- was a big story? Just because that horrible gaffe was played and replayed during the week that preceded her remarks, she should have refrained? Just because of that she should have changed her list of JUNE EXAMPLES? Aw golly, guys, that would be so tough on her.

I got tired of reading her bullshit

I figure after the primaries they may be worth reading, but right now all they seem to do is try to spin more of Sen. Clinton's lies into fool's gold.

It was a bitter pill to swallow.

While Monica was swallowing what didn't drip on to her blue dress, Hillary was swallowing her pride.

Was it worth it, Hillary? See what raw ambition has brought you?

It was all for naught. Your pride and ambition was what caused you to fall.

par for the course for Obama supporters.

Tell us how you think Obama will cure breast cancer and get treatment for uninsured breast cancer patients.

the layin on of hands
count me in!!

What doesn't kill you will make you stronger.

OoRah!

I'm glad you agree with me.

you don't even know who I voted for

Sorry, she is all wet and totally wrong about this "sexism" thing against Clinton and about everyone picking on Clinton.

Clinton, if anything, has been treated overly favorably by the press and pundits.

Losers try to blame others for their mistakes. If you recall, Hillary STILL hasn't admitted her vote for the Iraq War was a mistake or that she was fooled or that she chose a political vote over the right vote for the country.

Some things never change. This is why HRC will never be President.

Obamites think all disagreement is out of line, but don't forget: Obamites are the people who have fucked the party.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3U0df0qGoA

She did not let the talking head get away with more propaganda. Good for her!

Really...interested in knowing why you would think such a thing.

(BTW...I saw whatshername on Hardball...she really is out on the limb. I'm a middle aged, white, working woman, who became a feminist of sorts at about age 15, when I read my first women's rights magazine article. I am pretty much atuned to sexism. Clinton really has not experienced much sexism....a few statements by low level people. One blatant one by Chris Matthews early on, that he apologized for. But someone complementing her on her tangerine-colored jacket, when she chooses to wear a tangerine-colored jacket while being in the center spot in a televised debate, while all other debaters were in customary dark suits - is not sexist at all. It WAS a pretty jacket. And someone who wears a tangerine-colored jacket WANTS attention, obviously. That's how silly the sexism charges are.)

Great article.

Made me shout for joy to finally hear truth on MSNBC.

That sorry bastard was Hopeless.

See my comment number 49 below yours.

:hi:

:evilgrin:

:D

An "in-depth" look at the electronic machinery and the stolen election of 2004 quickly concluded that there "is nothing to see here, move along."

Salon is progressive in that if you want to read titillating sexual fantasies and "cutting edge" discussions of the kinkier aspects of modern life, Salon is your platform.

But if it is progressive politics that you want, Salon is to progressive politics as the Republicans are to gay marriage.

I miss the old (good) Salon.

BTW, I don't agree with your comment about Salon being non-progressive. It's inane because a lot of people can see the Clinton bashing no matter what their political persuasion may be. There are a lot of progressive feminists and progressives in general who can see the Clinton bashing and probably a lot of non-progressives.

Not stumbled down the road of karma that she choose.


To many of us, Senator Clinton had a choice to make in November 2004.

An important choice. That election BELONGED TO WE THE PEOPLE!! But she had her eyes on the Prize of running for the Presidency in 2008. So rather than go down th road that Barbara Boxer went down, and denounce the voting machinery, denounce the slippery tactics that deprived voters in Ohio of the right to vote, she capitalized on it.

And why was it the penniless voting activists who tried to put in out there. And to change things.
While Clinton scolded Edwards as he became insistent that every vote be counted before Kerry conceded.


I indict Senator Clinton for her failure to speak out about what she knew to be true - that the election was stolen. Because of that we face the 2008 election with the same crummy machinery, the same Repug-installed Registrar of Voters in almost every county in this country. If she and others in places of influence had spoken out, it would have gotten media play. And things might have changed. Instead, if memory serves, only Senator Boxer stood up and denounced the 2004 election.

Other voting rights activists also indict her.

And despite that, I have stood up for Sen Clinton when I saw topics on this forum abt such things as her "cackle" or people using the B word.

But GODDAMN it to hell, any person who could keep her mouth shut about what happened in Ohio in NOvember of 2004 deserves what has happened to her. Even the things that were unfair. Because the wheel of karma is like that. Ignore the needs of a country for your own political will and your own insatiable demand to be President and the wheels of karma just might kick you in your self-serving Ass!

When I think of the last four years under Bush, I end up thinking of How it helped Hillary that Kerry conceded, and her role in that. Her running in 2008 meant that she was willing to put this country, and the nation of Iraq through hell.


If she is a Democrat then I do not know what it means be a Democrat. She is NOT an environmentalist, - you can't say you are one in one breath and than claim you'll NUKE Iran in the next. Her health plan matches Richard Nixon's and does not expunge the BIG HEALTH INSURANCE people out of the payment loop.

The author's name is Farhad Manjoo, and he USED TO BE one of their star political writers. He is still with Salon, but has been relegated to the "lesser" beats--garden parties, recipes and crafts.

Walsh is really out of line in her Clinton support, and she is the editor in chief.

They went after Dean in 04.

After watching the video of yesterday's Hardball episode,w ith Walsh claiming that Obama's campaign was behind the public's antural reaction of disgust over the Clinton gaffe, I was appalled.

How can any sane person blame the Obama campaign for a natural reaction to the Clinton mis-speak?

I was happy that Matthews had a journalist for the Obama side on to dispute Walsh's claim. The American progressive community does not want assassination raised in a provocative way whether done in an above board manner or subliminally!!

are strongly anti-walsh.

In that editorial spot.

Someone who can avoid being a lap dog for the corporations and for BIG MONEY INTERESTS as we know it.

When I see Walsh on TV, I cringe. She knows far less than many of us here on DU.

I'll rest assured that this country is a democracy when the talking heads on their TV shows turn to someone like sfexpat and ask her to come on Prime Time!

...and even she sees the insanity of many of his supporters, so take note.

Axelrod never said HRC was responsible for Bhutto's death and the other stories are just that... as for negative mailers, ferchrissakes, does Walsh want to go down that road?

Walsh is a shill for a losing campaign. Next thing you know, she's going to call the World sexist...

Piss off Joan.

:D

That was a well crated statement by hillary to invoke exactly what is happening now - clinton supporters whinning and moaning
that, "everybody is picking on me, everybody is picking on hillary, everybody is picking on bill, every body is picking on chelsea.

Oh God what a bunch of sore losers and whinners. Imagine, someone picking on the clintons - the most ruthless politicians to ever
walk the face of the earth.

Why don't all of you clitonaide drinkers give it up! (please)

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