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Tace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 09:10 AM
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World News Trust: So Let's Talk About Assassination, Shall We? (Mary Lyon)
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Mary Lyon, From The Left -- World News Trust

Yes. I heard it. But Hillary Clinton's only one of the most recent public figures to bring up that dirty little unmentionable in American political history. She inferred, more than once, that she, in effect, might as well stay in because -- well -- something could happen (presumably to her Democratic competitor, Barack Obama), maybe even something similar to what befell Robert F. Kennedy 40 years ago. She brought it up at all in an attempt to name at least two examples of primary campaigns continuing into June, the other example being her husband's first presidential run. However, the record now shows that most of her listeners concluded something completely different.

So Let's Talk About Assassination, Shall We?

The most miserable part of this is the fact, the sad fact, that those fears and dreads even have to exist, that they're even there, lurking in the back of our minds, whenever we see some political figure rise from the herd to offer leadership and inspiration. It's sadder still that those fears and dreads are based on tragedies that are very real, very cataclysmic, and very heart-rending. Frankly, I'm sure that a similar sense of dread has crossed the minds of Clinton's supporters understandably worried about her safety. In fact, I'd bet on it.

So okay then, let's talk about assassination. It's the crazy uncle we all try to keep shut away in the attic where nobody really has to deal with it or face it. But there's talking about it and then there's talking about it.

I don't find Hillary Clinton's statement nearly as offensive as I do the callous, cavalier, reckless, at best ill-advised, smart-ass remark by another woman who should know better, far better than even Clinton should. Exhibit A: veteran newswoman and Fox News Channel commentator Liz Trotta, who should be severely reprimanded, or suspended -- or more -- for the following:

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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 09:55 AM
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1. Kick!
Thanks, Tace!
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RethugAssKicker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 10:06 AM
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2. What exactly did Clinton say?....I missed this one.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 11:57 AM
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4. You probably didn't. It's been all over the news, but so much else has been happening
lately that it's getting hard to keep track.

This was her statement, last week, about why she saw no reason to get out of the race. She mentioned her husband not clinching the nomination til June, and threw in the RFK assassination thing, and it just rubbed a WHOLE LOTTA PEOPLE the wrong way. Frankly, I think her statement pales next to the lovely liz trotta's. Hillary didn't come flat out and wish assassination on Barack Obama like trotta did - even in jest. But you DO NOT JOKE ABOUT STUFF LIKE THIS. It isn't funny, and in my opinion it's downright criminal. What liz trotta did, in effect, was strongly suggest how nice it'd be if we could get rid of both Osama, Obama (what's the difference, anyway?). And hee hee hee, ho ho ho, guffaw, guffaw, wink-wink, nudge-nudge. Oh she was JUST JOKING!!!! Keep yer shirts on!!! I don't think so. You don't fire off so easily and so quickly with a joke like that unless it's been on your mind anyway.

Hillary, on the other hand, wasn't making a smart-ass joke about it, and I found her apology to be way more sympathetic and straightforward than trotta's (liz trotta was STILL smirking before she even got to the end of her "I didn't mean anything by it" statement). Some do not, however, and virtually everybody seems to agree that it was NOT worth bringing up - just getting into too-troublesome territory here.
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 10:07 AM
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3. K&R
:kick:
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 11:57 AM
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5. Thank you!
:hi:
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 12:53 PM
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6. Just made Huffington Post, too!
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 12:56 PM
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7. k&r
She should be fined then fired.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 03:46 PM
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8. Hey, if David Shuster can be yanked off the air for two weeks for a snarky remark
about Chelsea Clinton and her parents - and this with NO death threats or cheerleadings or similar insinuations, she should CERTAINLY receive the same treatment. AND worse. She absolutely should be fired. There should be a zero-tolerance rule covering this kind of thing. Joking about how nice it'd be if we could get rid of these annoying politicians - just should not be done. I mean, we hate george w. bush here, but we do NOT even slightly go anywhere near there. Because we know it's just something you do not do, regardless how you feel about the individual in question.

And liz trotta is no newly-arrived blow-dried ingenue, either. She's 71, and has been around FOREVER, in some of the biggest news organizations in existence. She should know better, if anybody should. And as much as I despise her for what she's done, I would certainly not EVER advocate, or even joke, about her meeting such a fate. You just do not do that.

She is a disgrace. She should absolutely have known better. No sympathy.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 11:26 PM
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9. shameless kick...
:evilgrin:
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 11:28 PM
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10. Trotta should be fined and fired. Send a message.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 06:48 PM
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11. Yeah. No Kidding.
You just can't go there and say shit like that.
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