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JimGinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 10:29 AM
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Clinton Casts Wide Net of Exaggeration, Claims to Lead in “Every Poll”
BILLINGS, MONT. -- During an evening rally in Montana’s largest city Tuesday night, Hillary Clinton explained to the crowd why she should be the Democratic Party’s nominee, but what ensued was a list of overstatements and exaggerations as she made her case. “You have to ask yourself, who is the stronger candidate? And based on every analysis, of every bit of research and every poll that has been taken and every state that a Democrat has to win, I am the stronger candidate against John McCain in the fall,” she said.

The problem is, there are a number of polls that show Clinton in a close race with John McCain, many within the margin of error, not including a few that show Barack Obama beating McCain by a larger margin than Clinton. The comment was intended to prove to voters that despite Obama’s popularity, she has what it takes to beat John McCain. Clinton said that voters have to ask themselves, “Who is the stronger candidate against John McCain? We have not gone through this exciting, unprecedented, historic election, only to lose,” she said.

For days, Clinton has been grasping at almost anything to make her case to voters as the clock in the campaign winds down. Most recently Clinton compared the plight of Florida and Michigan voters to the struggles of the early suffragists and likened the primaries of those states to the fraudulent election that took place in Zimbabwe.


http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2008/05/28/politics/fromtheroad/entry4130842.shtml
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 10:31 AM
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1. Obama looks pretty strong against McCain in this Ohio poll, just one example.
http://www.surveyusa.com/index.php/2008/05/23/ohio-vp-matchups

Hillary's truth-stretching is humiliating to her and her supporters.
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muryan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 11:22 AM
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17. First time having seen that
pretty interesting if those kind of results can be duplicated in other polls.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 10:31 AM
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2. I want to look away, but I can't... I just can't.
Like watching paint peel.
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 10:39 AM
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8. I mean it as hyperbole but I have no idea if she will...
...go out like Al Gore or Budd Dwyer. The story is not so much about the race for the nomination anymore. It's more a grimoire listing the ways a politician may self-destruct. It concerns me that Obama is tied to this story only because he is in the race with her- but her story has split and become something dark and entirely its own.

PB
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NatBurner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 10:32 AM
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3. this too shall pass...
that mantra got me through basic training-

we have what? one more week of this?
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Jersey Devil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 01:12 PM
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22. Yeah, one more week then 1 week of pizza deliveries
But the pizza deliveries should be fun!
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 10:32 AM
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4. Except the one that matters: pledged delegates.
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George_Bonanza Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 10:33 AM
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5. Believing in polls before a single vote is cast? You'd think Hillary would've learned her lesson
August 2007: Hillary leads in every poll for the Democratic nomination!
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 10:34 AM
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6. Hillary: Hypothetical polls months before the election are more important than actual cast votes.
:eyes:
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 10:35 AM
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7. If she's talking, she's lying.
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 10:42 AM
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9. It's a shame the media thinks this spectacle is boosting their ratings
This woman gets way more air time than she deserves.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 10:51 AM
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10. Why should we be surprised by this?
She's been lying her way through this whole thing.
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BREMPRO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 10:54 AM
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11. she's mired in self-delusion and spinning outside the realm of reality...
It's desperate and sad to see such a promising politician brought down by pathological lying, stupid gaffes, naked pandering and manipulative spin. The strains of the campaign have revealed her true character.
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 10:59 AM
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12. God.. I'm so freakin tired of this bulls***. One more week.
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JimGinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 11:15 AM
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14. Two More Weeks Here Though...
It sucks.
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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 11:01 AM
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13. Didn't you know? She's winning the general election!
Bill says so :rofl:
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 01:05 PM
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18. It's a cover-up!!!!!
Bill sez so!!!!

:rofl:
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Cheap_Trick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 01:12 PM
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21. If Bill says so, it MUST be true
Because he would NEVER EVER lie to us.
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Douglas Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 11:17 AM
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15. gee, I never noticed that
:eyes:
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Hola Donating Member (163 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 11:21 AM
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16. Lots of work still to do
Clinton is exactly where she was before the primary season. Look back at polls in Oct and Dec 07, she blows McCain out of the water. She dipped a bit, and has since regained.

Obama meanwhile was nowhere in the running back in Oct/Dec, polls against McCain show him losing big. Now he's even or very close. He's gaining but there is still lots of work to do.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 01:10 PM
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19. Democratic Presidential Nomination Polls:
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 01:11 PM
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20. Who are you going to believe? Hysterical losers or your lying eyes?
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americanstranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 01:12 PM
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23. Pretty freakin' sad.
She really doesn't intend to quit, does she?

Who in that camp is going to work up the courage to tell her to snap the fuck out of it?

- as
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Indenturedebtor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 01:18 PM
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24. Liar. n/t
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 01:50 PM
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25. Hillary wants to "disenfranchise" the Democratic voters of an entire nation!
Why bother with a Primary election?



"There are forces within the Democratic Party who want us to sound like kinder, gentler Republicans. I want us to compete for that great mass of voters that want a party that will stand up for working Americans, family farmers, and people who haven't felt the benefits of the economic upturn."---Paul Wellstone


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moondust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 02:14 PM
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26. Still lyin...
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windbreeze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 02:36 PM
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27. the reason might be....
to make some believe the inevitable candidate meme...it's inevitable that I am going to win, so there's no need for you to cast a vote for anyone else...the plan makes perfect sense to me...wb
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