Hillary gives a damn about the delegates of FL and MI

mystieus

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Wed May-28-08 01:50 PM
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Hillary gives a damn about the delegates of FL and MI

Its the moral victory of winning the popular vote whats shes after.. Then say Obama isn't legitimate.

I hope the DNC see this.

What margin does Obama have to when the next 3 states so she cant claim the popular vote lead?

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Richard Steele

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Wed May-28-08 01:52 PM
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1. Her camp cried "Rules are rules" when they thought they'd win without those 2 states. nm

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tekisui

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Wed May-28-08 01:54 PM
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2. ANy margin gives Obama a claim on the Popular vote.

The thing is, he measures are so flawed, and the pledged delegates reflect the voters. The superdelegates aren't buying this argument.

Hillary NEEDS supers. THey are her only lifeline. If there were any for her, they would announce, now. Her campaign is dying and they need the supers badly. But, they aren't there. THey are being polite, waiting for the votes, but they are clearly not supportive of HIllary's cause.

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mystieus

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Wed May-28-08 02:07 PM
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7. She'll say Obama isn't legitimate with the popular vote lead and take it to the convention

and try to rewrite our rules in the process. She already said this is like the civil rights rights movement.

I just hope obama is capable of neutralizing this popular vote argument by remaining in the lead after the next 3 states.

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tekisui

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Wed May-28-08 02:09 PM
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11. It doesn't matter. She'll claim it, no matter what.

She will come up with a new new mathematical formula to discredit Obama.

The bottom line is: The superdelegates aren't buying her shit.

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rateyes

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Wed May-28-08 01:56 PM
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3. He'd have to lose by several hundred thousand...

combined to lose the popular vote. COUNT THEM ALL, Hillary is fond of saying. But, she doesn't count them all when she makes that bogus claim.

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suston96

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Wed May-28-08 01:56 PM
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4. I hope the DNC AND ALL the super delegates see this.........

http://www.electoral-vote.com/

And this.....

http://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2008/Clinton/Maps/May28.html

And this:

http://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2008/Obama/Maps/May28.html

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Kittycat

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Wed May-28-08 02:02 PM
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5. Why? We aren't in a GE race until our Nominee is chosen, so these are idiotic until.

It also doesn't help the damage that Clinton is doing, and the fact that she hasn't been vetted yet. Once her garbage gets spilled, the downward spiral will be so fast, you won't even have time to blink before to crash to the bottom.

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JuniperLea

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Wed May-28-08 02:09 PM
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12. Clinton hasn't been vetted?? Are you series?

All members of the Clinton family have been under the microscope for years. Where have you been?

:rofl:

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Kittycat

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Wed May-28-08 02:13 PM
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14. No, she hasn't since this race began.

She's had it very easy over the past few years, in fact. Once things start spilling out about Bill's court hearings, and her campaign fundraising hearings, it will be all over for her. And that is only the tip of the iceburg. God forbid that Library donor list ever become public, because the little bit we do know doesn't bode well for them.

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JuniperLea

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Wed May-28-08 03:01 PM
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21. If there were anything to be found

It would have been found. We already know a lot about those things you mention, and it hasn't meant diddly. That's not to say the GOP doesn't have some dirt on both candidates. We won't learn of that until a nominee is named. It may be in Obama's best interest that Clinton stay in the race as long as possible.

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Cha

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Wed May-28-08 03:19 PM
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23. Each new lie hilary spews adds more

on her "needs to be vetted" lists and that pandering warhog is incapable of telling the truth.

NIce fucking candidate ya got there.

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JuniperLea

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Wed May-28-08 04:07 PM
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26. I have no candidate

I'll vote for the Dem in the GE... but I have no candidate.

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Starbucks Anarchist

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Wed May-28-08 03:50 PM
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25. Gupta, Burkle, Hsu, Giustra...

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Cha

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Wed May-28-08 05:51 PM
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27. Yeah, pity she's so fucked up.

little fucking warhog.

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suston96

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Wed May-28-08 02:13 PM
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13. Primaries ARE an integral part of the "general" election.

Both are "elections" deserving of both constitutional protection and guarantees.

And also deserving careful attention by any and all involved at every stage of that process

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Kittycat

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Wed May-28-08 02:46 PM
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18. And clinton is losing the primary. So what is your point?

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JuniperLea

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Wed May-28-08 02:08 PM
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9. And this...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x6155721

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racaulk

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Wed May-28-08 03:12 PM
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22. Kerry 281 - Bush 257

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=5726556#5731764

I hope the SDs don't put too much stock in that website as you appear to have.

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mystieus

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Wed May-28-08 02:03 PM
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6. I just hope obama is capable of neutralizing this popular vote argument by

Edited on Wed May-28-08 02:04 PM by mystieus

remaining in the lead after the next 3 states. I was wondering what margin he'd have to win the next 3 states to allow this to happen.

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VolcanoJen

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Wed May-28-08 02:16 PM
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16. What popular vote argument?

We don't choose our nominee based upon popular vote. Popular votes cannot be calculated properly due to many states choosing to hold caucuses instead of primaries.

Why is this concept so incredibly difficult for so very many?

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mystieus

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Wed May-28-08 03:49 PM
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24. She wants to rewrite history and claim Obama unlegitimate, like many of us did with Bush/Gore.

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JuniperLea

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Wed May-28-08 02:08 PM
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8. Obama wants to seat FL... how soon we forget

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x6155721

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Mooney

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Wed May-28-08 02:09 PM
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10. I have absolutely no doubt that she cares deeply about those delegates.

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Raineyb

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Wed May-28-08 02:16 PM
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15. ...Now that she needs them

If she were ahead we wouldn't hear not one peep about them.

Regards

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mystieus

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Wed May-28-08 02:23 PM
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17. The reason why I say this is if you seat their delegates Hillary still loses.

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Mooney

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Wed May-28-08 02:48 PM
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19. Even if she cares about them extra hard?

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MadAndy

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Wed May-28-08 02:53 PM
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20. Hellary only cares about those that she thinks can help her. eom

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