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anamnua Donating Member (363 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 06:22 PM
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Obama's Auschwitz gaffe
I wish the Germans would get their act together and invent a word that describes how I feel at the moment.
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madeline_con Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 06:23 PM
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1. It's not farfegnugen? n/t
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islandmkl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 06:24 PM
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2. at least 10 or 12 million people are looking for such a word...
since 1936....
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 06:25 PM
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3. how about "bitter"
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Lost-in-FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 06:30 PM
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16. Kopfschlag
= bitter (I think)
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Hieronymus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 06:25 PM
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4. Too bad you can't voice your opinion in English.
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JackintheGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 06:25 PM
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5. I'm sure they already have
what exactly are you feeling? Oopsenhagen? Sprachenschmertz?
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 06:25 PM
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6. I think its sauerkraut
Edited on Wed May-28-08 06:26 PM by DJ13
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NorthernSpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 06:26 PM
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7. the word you're looking for is "assholish"...
:eyes:
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casus belli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 12:28 AM
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71. LOL! :D
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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 06:27 PM
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8. schadenfreude?
i hope that's not it.
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anamnua Donating Member (363 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 06:28 PM
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13. Wunderbar!!!
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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 06:31 PM
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19. So you are happy that a minor gaffe is distracting from the real issue vets face in the US?
How....sad for you.
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Rageneau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 06:39 PM
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28. What -- like Tuzla?
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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 06:45 PM
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33. That would be correct.
IF, Hillary's story was that she had to dodge sniper fire in Tuzla and it was actually Zenica where she had to dodge sniper fire.

And Hillary was promoting HERSELF in that, not a plan to help the troops.
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 06:30 PM
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17. Yah. Zer gut. NT
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 05:39 AM
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80. That's definitely not it. n/t
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 06:27 PM
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9. How DO you feel?
In English?
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 06:27 PM
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10. Petty?
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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 12:09 AM
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66. Nit-picky? Bitchy? Tiresome?
I could go on....
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Bad Thoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 06:27 PM
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11. "kleinlich" or "Donquichotterie"?
Edited on Wed May-28-08 06:31 PM by Bad Thoughts
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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 06:28 PM
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12. They already did, it's "engherzig"
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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 06:29 PM
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14. du bist eine schissekopf? Ich wiess nich.
:)
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cui bono Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 06:30 PM
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15. You mean like the English word "desperate"?
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 06:32 PM
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Kaputt.
Close enough. :eyes:
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nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 06:30 PM
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18. They have -- it's "arschloch"
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 06:32 PM
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21. That's the one they're looking for!
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 06:48 PM
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39. An exquisite fit too. n/t
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 06:32 PM
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20. I believe that would be "Kartoffelsalat" NT
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nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 06:34 PM
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22. It's not a gaffe
It would be a "gaffe" is he had said he himself was there under sniper fire
It would be a "gaffe" if he said he could bring in the neo-Nazi vote
It would be a "gaffe" if he said he was hanging around in case something really bad happened to someone else
It would be a "gaffe" if he was refusing to pay the small business people who provided him goods and services
It would be a "gaffe" if he was $40 million in debt
It would be a "gaffe" if his wife was on the campaign trail whining about "racism"
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Oleladylib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 06:36 PM
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24. yup those are gaffe's ..what he did was intentionally mislead.
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nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 06:38 PM
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26. Hillary supporters should really not
open that can of worms labeled "Intentionally Misleading Statements."

The Goddess of Peas would not survive that battle.
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 12:32 AM
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74. Goddess of whirrled peas??
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 06:40 PM
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Mislead?
Was one concentration camp better than another? How is misnaming a concentration camp misleading? That's the lamest attempt to discredit Obama I have heard yet.

If his great uncle was racing horses at Santa Anita instead of serving then that would be misleading.
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Shakespeare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 06:43 PM
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31. "Intentionally mislead?" Explain, please. n/t
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polmaven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 07:04 PM
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43. This time I have to think
that it was not intentional, but a simple misstatement.

I will say that after a long day, during a long primary season, anyone can misspeak. It is even possible that the family history came to him that way.

I am not going to play the same game that the Obama camp here plays, and make a big deal about this....It isn't a big deal, it was a mistaken reference, no more.
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 11:28 PM
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62. Could you speak up? I can't hear you over the sniper fire!
nm
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 06:14 AM
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83. somehow, I doubt we'll ever see an explanation from this poster
Intentionallly misled? How? Why?

You want to have a discussion, don't hide. Come discuss.
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Bad Thoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 06:37 PM
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25. Actually, you're right
It's not just a mistake, but something clumsy or inappropriate.
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nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 06:40 PM
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29. It's not even that
I know my grandparents came from England. I think I know where, but I'd probably get it wrong -- unless I spent a day researching family records.

The fact that any Hillary supporter brings this up reeks of pathetic desperation.

Further proof that her campaign is totally in the shitter.
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Bad Thoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 06:44 PM
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32. I've worked with oral history long enough to know ...
... the stories handed down to children can't be trusted. They cover the fear and anxiety about their origins. It's rather unfortunate, but it's true. One time, injecting some history into the discussion about one's family history, I accidentally made a woman realize that either her father had lied to her, or she could not be related to him. I felt awful.
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anamnua Donating Member (363 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 06:46 PM
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36. The longer Hillary stays in the race
the more evidence mounts that the prince of gaffes will be a GE liability.
The general philosophy of Obamism = the hopium of the masses.
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Bad Thoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 06:49 PM
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40. Let's compare gaffes
Obama's uncle at Auschwitz vs. Clinton at Bosnia?

I think I know which Republicans would love to run with.
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nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 06:56 PM
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41. This makes sense everywhere, except
in the frenzied minds of some Hillary supporters. They are truly delusional. Realistic Hillary people know the game is over and are mourning their loss. However, there is a small group, bolstered by trouble-making trolls, who are posting the same delusional nonsense over and over.
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anamnua Donating Member (363 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 06:57 PM
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42. Bittergate?
'I was for Rev Wright before I was against him' (sic). The republicans must be salivating at the prospect of a run against the ersatz messiah.
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TooRaLoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 08:41 PM
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58. The "prince of gaffes"?!
That's fucking laughable.
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TheFriendlyAnarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 06:18 AM
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84. I'll take hope and change as a slogan.
There are worse things to run on.
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 06:35 PM
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23. Venn ist das nurnstuck git und slotermeyer?
Ya! Beigerhund das oder die flipperwaldt gersput!
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galledgoblin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 07:42 PM
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49. hahahahahaha-
x_X
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 06:39 PM
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27. OMG! He named the WRONG concentration camp!!!
What a fucking total LOSER. Im SERIES!!!!11!!!11!

See what you sound like? Pathetic isnt it.
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 06:42 PM
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30. Guess the people in that
concentration camp weren't really in a concentration camp.
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 07:18 PM
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44. Nobody said that. How much more irrational could you be?!?
What an asinine thing to say. Seriously. :eyes:
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 07:31 PM
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47. Guess I should have added
:sarcasm:

Honestly, this is one of the most dismal attempts to trash Obama yet. His great uncle was part of the liberation of a concentration camp. Criicizing him for naming the wrong camp makes it sound as though that liberation was somehow less important or bogus.

People were saved and Clinton supporters are quibbling over which ones. :eyes:
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 07:38 PM
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48. ....
:blush: Sorry I missed the snark. As I'm sure you know, I've gotten similar replies from people who were actually serious... I mistook you for one of them.

Soooo sorry for putting you in that category!!!! :hug:
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 07:44 PM
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50. It's okay
Sometimes I don't do snark as well as others. It was an attempt to take the argument to the extreme. Name the wrong camp? Sorry, it doesn't count. Obama loses.


It will be over soon...
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 11:29 PM
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63. At least he never claimed to be named after it. nm
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casus belli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 12:29 AM
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72. I guess that's a far cry worse then remembering sniper fire that never actually happened. n/t
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Mooney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 06:45 PM
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34. "verzweifelt"
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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 06:46 PM
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35. I am sure his misstatement is making some old Nazis bitter.
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suston96 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 06:47 PM
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37. It's only a gaffe if Obama's uncle reported sniper fire.......nt
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Binka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 06:23 AM
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86. Liberating Nazi Death Camps Is Not A Joke Fool
You need to go away. Really. Your shit is fucking stupid.
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 06:47 PM
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38. Drecksau does quite nicely for you n/t
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 07:21 PM
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45. are you STILL here?
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 07:24 PM
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46. I don't know. How do you say "WAAAAAH!!! IT'S HER TURN!!! WAAAAAAH!!" In German? nt
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 07:44 PM
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51. This one edges up to the boundry of taste, I think.
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Writer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 07:47 PM
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52. No no no. What we ought to do is accuse Obama of "raising the specter of the Holocaust."
How dare he!

(faux outrage)
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 07:49 PM
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54. Which Holocaust? The one where 6M Jews died? Or the "Misogyny Holocaust" that stole the nomination
Edited on Wed May-28-08 07:58 PM by impeachdubya
away from Hillary Clinton, even though IT'S HER TURN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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kid a Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 07:47 PM
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53. another LIE.. (but who's counting)
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juno jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 08:17 PM
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55. I don't know much german but 'Ketufflekoff' would sum it up. n/t
Edited on Wed May-28-08 08:20 PM by junofeb
I know some yiddish, but it would be insulting.
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papapi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 08:20 PM
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56. SCREAM LOUDER! I can't hear you over the sniper fire.
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anamnua Donating Member (363 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 08:36 PM
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57. A good link
http://www.hillaryclintonforum.net/discussion/showthread.php?t=13529
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 08:48 PM
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59. If I wanted to find out what completely insane people think
I'd talk to these guys:
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Orangeone Donating Member (395 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 11:17 PM
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61. Yay!


You're from San Francisco!
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comrade snarky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 01:47 AM
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76. Frank!!!!!
Guilted to a Zegatronic universe!

12 Galaxies agree.
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papapi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 09:29 PM
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60. Thanks. I don't go there. It's for losers.
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swishyfeet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 12:41 AM
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75. Thanks for the link and the laughs
Bunch of lunatics freaking out, boycotting everyone who isn't on board with them.
:rofl:

They do seem to like Glen Beck though.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 12:01 AM
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64. You and faux
Foaming about which camp Obama's great uncle liberated. :eyes:
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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 12:11 AM
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67. I guess not much good news for that camp so
they rejoice at any little misspeak.

So triflin'.
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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 12:09 AM
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65. Drunk on molehills
Jesus what a big non-issue.
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4_Legs_Good Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 12:12 AM
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68. I think it's ignorieren!
Willkommen!
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 12:14 AM
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69. You aren't serious. You can't possibly be serious. I refuse to believe it.
I call shenanigans.
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ampad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 12:21 AM
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70. LOL
You are pathetic.
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 12:30 AM
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73. Scheisskopf?
:shrug:
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 05:39 AM
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81. Yep. n/t
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corkhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 05:22 AM
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77. .
Edited on Thu May-29-08 05:23 AM by corkhead
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 05:24 AM
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78. READ MY SIG!
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 05:36 AM
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79. voller Scheiße?
but I needed a babble fish to get there.
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Unbowed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 06:12 AM
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82. So fucking what? At least he didn't say he visited & was under sniper fire. n/t
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 06:18 AM
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85. And exactly why does this 'gaffe' make you feel anything in particular?
You don't support Obama. So why do you care if he referred to the wrong camp in making an otherwise completely valid and truthful statement about PTSD?

Do you think that he has disrespected the victims of Auschwitz? Do you think he has 'used' them because his point wouldn't have been as valid if he had referred to Ohrfruf.

Here, let me ask you this: How does this picture make you feel:

http://www.trumanlibrary.org/photographs/displayimage.php?pointer=3907
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 06:25 AM
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87. I believe what you're looking for is
Wie ein Dummkopf
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