Is this goodbye? He was 'the man from hope'. She was going to be America's first female president.

But are the lights finally going out on the Clinton era? Michael Crowley; The Guardian, on the future for Hillary and Bill.

From the beginning, it was Hillary who took charge. 'Look,' she told the future President of the United States in a wood-panelled reading room at the Yale Law School library, 'if you're going to keep staring at me, and I'm going to keep staring back, we should at least introduce ourselves. I'm Hillary Rodham.'

The year was 1970, and Bill Clinton and Hillary Rodham had just embarked on a lifetime of cinematic personal and public highs and lows. As she did that flirty afternoon in New Haven, Connecticut, Hillary played a dominant role, one greater than many Clinton watchers ever realised. With her discipline and determination and his almost supernatural charm, they made for a seemingly unconquerable couple - their marriage vows as resistant to scandal as their power was to political enemies.

But now, in the closing days of the 2008 Democratic presidential race, the Clintons' luck is running out. Blindsided by Obamamania, Hillary is almost certain to concede defeat in the weeks to come, abandoning her dream of a restoration, of returning to a White House the Clintons clearly assumed would be theirs again some day.

Indeed, the long-reigning royals of the Democratic Party must contemplate their greatest defeat with disbelief. Their lifetime in politics has often been an absurd high-wire act, a constant defiance of natural political gravity. Time and again they seemed beaten, broken, shamed - and each time they bounced back stronger than before. The question now, in the twilight of Hillary's campaign, is whether they can mount one last comeback, or whether the curtain has fallen at last on the Clinton era.

Rest of The Guardian article @ the link: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/jun/01/uselections2008.hillaryclinton

Insulting that poster won't change reality, pw.

I'm sure he could use a sap such as yourself, right?

then they are not Democrats. Just as if our party is "Obama" we are not Democrats. Either way, it is a long term losing proposition unless they can be brought to the party, not just the person. Otherwise they are modern day Dixicrats, just waiting to splinter and divide.

So I guess the other 50% should have taken the ball and went home if positions were reversed? I guess that's what you're saying. I guess you're saying we should throw hissyfits when we don't get what we want, stomp our feet and hold our breath until we turn blue if we don't get our way.

Go vote for McCain if that's what makes you feel better.

You'll get the government you deserve.

;-)

I've had it with them.

And if so, good riddance. I'm tired of Vichy Democrats. Let the Democratic wing of the Democratic party run the show for a while.

and a Party we can be <gasp> proud of.