Just stop it.

I see post after post after post saying that many Clinton supporters here won't vote for Obama (edit: on DU). Some try to convince them to vote for Obama (and pretend that they need coddling), and some attack them. Many broad-brush Clinton supporters as somehow disloyal to our party (some pretending that the few protesters at the RBC were a representative sample of all Clinton supporters and use that to further paint them all as crazy).

In case you haven't noticed, most Hillary supporters left a long time ago. There are very few still here. And of those still here, 95% will be voting for Obama and have never said otherwise. So in the end, I can probably count on my fingers the number of people here who have ever put into doubt whether they will support the democratic nominee.

For those few people, is it really worth it? For a few people, out of over 120 thousand user registrations? Is it really worth it to pretend that there is this massive group of Clinton supporters who in the end (after all is said and done) won't vote for Obama in the fall? Because aside from being based on a flawed premise, attacking all Clinton supporters for the actions of a tiny few just serves to further divide this board. It causes the few Hillary supporters who are left to distrust the vast masses on this board even more.

Please stop using the false premise of "Clinton supporters on DU won't vote for Obama" to justify more posts that broad-brush Clinton supporters. You are just alienating more and more people. Any true democrat will vote for the democratic nominee, by definition, and there is no reason to pretend there is a vast conspiracy to vote for McCain when there is no such vast conspiracy. Just stop it.

Hugs and kisses to everyone.:hug:

they will support Obama in the GE.

I don't see a problem, especially as long as the primary is settled this week.

Many of us know democrats who feel that Barack Obama is the root of all evil, and regularly spout bunches of ridiculous comments we would only find online at something like Hillaryis44.com. Then again, perhaps my case is unusual, but I've never had trouble talking politics with my Mother before, and many others in her age group.

Simply stopping the discussion of this issue doesn't make it go away, any more than discussing it hurts the issue more.

Find me one person on DU that said Barack Obama is the root of all evil.

There may be a tiny, tiny minority of Clinton supporters on DU who say they will not support Obama. But any thinking person knows that most of this is because passions are high, and come November, the party will be united around Obama.

This is a far cry from the alternate reality that some Obama supporters here try to portray (that Clinton supporters are going to stay home as a block, and that they therefore need to be purged from the party).

Like, in the real world. Again, because they left DU doesn't mean they don't exist. I KNOW some of these people - people I've known my entire life (41 years old) in fact. If I personally know them and have had to alter my communications with them, I have a really hard time believing this issue is a fantasy.

This seems a bit limiting, but I'll go along with it...if its stated anywhere in the forum rules. Otherwise you're gonna have to make a stronger case for me to act like the rest of the world is irrelevant.

I'm not saying anything about other people, or that people shouldn't talk about real world attitudes.

men in this country who get it, who understand what is at stake. we shouldn't worry that the dead enders represent more than a fraction of a % of our country men and women. They will do the right thing. there is no other good choice.

Closest is this one.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x6197521

DU'ers who intend to vote for McCain over Obama are mostly allegorical.

for HRC, than the other way around. (At least from what I saw.) But I'm not going to paint a broad brush and pretend that most Obama supporters wouldn't vote for HRC if she were the nominee. Like some Obama supporters seem to do here for HRC supporters.

or do you have enough, now?

thanks.

I'm kinda busy. you can do simple searches on your own, you know.,

Nothing you posted indicates that anything but a tiny minority of Hillary supporters on DU intend to vote for McCain. Stop pretending there is a massive conspiracy.

don't think so. but your OP is acting like there are no incidents at all.

however, I will agree that calling attention to it unnecessarily is counterproductive.

I will not start any threads on it, but I will respond to anyone who threatens to vote republican or refuses to support the nominee. How's that?

My OP was about people on DU (not outside DU), but I clarified it just in case.

The Hillary supporters here (who as you note by and large intend to vote for the nominee) are getting abuse by proxy. There ARE many Hillary supporters out there in the real world who don't intend to support Obama.

There is a problem, but purging DU and heaping abuse on the Clinton supporters here does nothing to mitigate it. It only serves to make DU an echo chamber in which the false consensus causes us to become functionally ignorant of the desires of rank and file Democrats.

If we are going to win, we're going to need to keep our base.

I am talking about DU.

...DU, the party, and the Dems' (ALL of them) chances to win in November. STOP IT!