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SoonerPride Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 03:26 PM
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Poll question: Is John McCain a poor candidate?
He seems terribly inept and lost most of the time to me.
He used to have a *modicum* of integrity and threw himself under his own Straight Talk bus years ago.
He's a poor public speaker with a notorious angry streak.

I find him to be a very flawed candidate.

Do you agree?
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SoonerPride Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 03:28 PM
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1. If you think McCain is a strong opponent, please do explain yourself.
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Yotun Donating Member (346 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 03:29 PM
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2. Given the circumstances no. He's the only one the GOP can bring up with any chance.
Edited on Mon Jun-02-08 03:30 PM by Yotun
The rest of the Republican pack had no way in hell- can you seriously imagine the previously supposed front-runner, Guliani, actually winning the presidency? or Huckabee? Or Romney? Or Thompson? Come on.

PS- NEVER underestimate the Republicans. If we get too comfortable it will be our downfall.
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SoonerPride Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 03:30 PM
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6. Saying he's better than the others still doesn't make him a good candidate.
Does it?
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Beregond2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 03:30 PM
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3. It's painful and embarrasing to watch him.
The Republicans should be ashamed. On the other hand, he is a perfect symbol of their party.
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frickaline Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 03:30 PM
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4. flip-flop, keating five, McBush, Iraq
He lost this before he even opened his mouth. And talking doesn't help him in the slightest.
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Brundle_Fly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 03:30 PM
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5. when he remembers where he is....
and has one of his moments of clarity...

sure, the other 99% of the time..

nope.
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 03:32 PM
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7. I don't believe they are running him!! He's the equivalent to Lieberman to the GOP base & to dems he
...sold his soul to look like Bush.

Some on reThug sights say the GOP is trying to through this election because of the similarities to Carter years.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 03:32 PM
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8. As long as he's got that big (R) plastered to his ass he is.
All any Democrat has to to do is run as the "Not a Republican".
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bobbert Donating Member (548 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 03:34 PM
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9. Don't he and his wife own 9 homes?
That doesn't sound very poor to me.

I think the term 'shitty candidate' works better :)
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rock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 03:37 PM
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10. No, he is not a poor candidate
* has lowered the bar so much that a rotten banana actually has some appeal (no pun intended). In any case I strongly suggest that we Dems do not underestimate his support.
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hokies4ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 03:37 PM
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11. I voted No.
Partially because the 'No' vote wasn't getting any love. :rofl:

The question is somewhat vague. I will answer it in relative terms compared to the other major Republican candidates. McCain probably was their best hope if you consider the fact that only pro-Iraq War candidates had a legit shot at the candidacy. He has a rep as a maverick with the media. It doesn't matter if it isn't true if the media reports it that way. His war hero status makes it a little bit trickier to attack him on certain foreign policy issues than it would be to attack someone like McCain or Romney also. While he has flipflopped a lot, so had most of the other Republican candidates, especially Romney and Giuliani.

I think overall the Republican candidates were a weak crop, but McCain is one of the stronger ones out of that crop.
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phrigndumass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 03:38 PM
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12. He is poorer than his wife!
:D

badumpbump. I'll be here all week.
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Phoonzang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 03:39 PM
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13. He's the best candidate that they could
have picked from the crop that ran. He still has some tatters of the "Maverick" cloak he's been wearing for years.
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 05:20 PM
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29. exactly - although I have to say he's usually willing to listen to questioners
who disagree with him and actually talk to them. Unlike the President to whom he sold his soul....


creepy.


I think he's a very weak candidate, but this is a very strange election cycle.
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endarkenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 03:42 PM
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14. His second wife is quite wealthy
but he is indeed a piss-poor candidate.
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newmajority Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 03:45 PM
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15. He's about as popular on Freak Republic as Hillary is here
And that's a very good thing. Especially now that Bob Barr is in the race. I'm hoping for a huge split in the 'Puke ranks, and an Obama landslide.
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 04:20 PM
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23. Even they call him "McLame." It's pretty sad...
NOT :evilgrin:
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 03:49 PM
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16. He and his operation are horrible. Just plain bad and we haven't seen it yet
not really anyway

Think about the last two months or so

Doesn't know shia from sunni
Doesn't know what Iran is up to
Lobbyist running the operation

Just bad. for all the caterwalling about the Dems fighting it out nothing compares to the number of people that Bush has turned off and when the light hits the "straight talk express" if the complete ineptitude doesn't make you bend over laughing his speaking style while knock you OUT for a long summer nap (he sounds just like a grandpa reading a bedtime story)...oh and don't forget that no one trusts the media anymore (let alone now that McLellan blew their doors off) so their covering for McCain (and they will) will have a negative impact on his campaign.

That being said it is going to be razor close.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 03:50 PM
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17. As someone put earlier: he's the second coming of Bob Dole
:P
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 03:52 PM
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18. He's a weak candidate.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 03:54 PM
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19. He's being propped by the Bush puppeteers
Remember when McCain was running his own campaign? Broke, disorganized, waaaaaay behind in the polls. Then all the sudden Rudygate broke and the powers-that-be found another lackey down on his luck and more than willing to sell.

This was the best the could find this year.
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 03:56 PM
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20. Thin-skinned and speaks like a grumpy old man who's chasing kids off his lawn!
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 03:57 PM
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21. Any candidate that does not activate a core constituency of the party is not a good candidate.
He is having trouble winning even white voters for god sakes.
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Hawaii Hiker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 04:08 PM
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22. Not only is he a seriously flawed candiate, he is a very unlikeable person
The mere sight of that SOB drives me crazy...I despise him because he is such a phony, & becuase the MSM gives him a free pass...
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 04:21 PM
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24. his wife is loaded.
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 04:57 PM
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25. Yes, but his wife's rich.
;-)

But the GOP will be up to all of its tricks, so we have to be careful and campaign hard.
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 05:01 PM
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26. Yes...out of the group of idiots they had this year, Romney was their best bet...
but Huckabee's presence in the race made it impossible for Romney to win.
It's a shame (not really), because McCain is a poor candidate.
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TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 05:03 PM
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27. He's a throw-away candidate. He's viewed as moderate or at least
Edited on Mon Jun-02-08 05:04 PM by TBF
independent by some so they threw him out there, but they expect to lose. They're saving their young guys for other races.
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SoonerPride Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 05:17 PM
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28. Do they have any future bright stars in their midst?
they all seem old and/or stupid to me.
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TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 05:39 PM
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32. By definition they're all stupid, but I'm sure they have up and comers like the dem party does.
Jenna Bush just married one, and her cousin George P. is another (but they are both a little too young at this point).
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 05:27 PM
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30. Yes, but that was g.w. bush's problem too. Sadly, McCain gets raucous applause...
for his histrionic utterances & war raga's...I don't think it has near the impact it once did especially after the neocon excursion into the ME, but that is the kind of reptilian mind manipulation that both bush & McCain are & have been tapping into. Sadder still it gets any applause at all.
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iconicgnom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 05:30 PM
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31. do popes shit in the woods?
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