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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-04 01:39 PM
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Was Cheney's sensitive war comment a mistake?
He said that yesterday when discussing Najaf. How come we can never spread the crap Bush and Cheney say on this board? That would be MUCH more helpful.

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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-04 01:40 PM
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1. It got rebunked pretty well
Edited on Sun Aug-15-04 01:41 PM by JohnKleeb
Its great of Kerry to bring up Cheney's secrecy, people want an open government not Dick Cheney and the Shadows. Edwards also had a nice comment on how Kerry is a man who has bled for this country.
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Droopy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-04 01:49 PM
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4. I agree, John
Somebody posted something here the other day quoting Bush administration members saying we need to be sensitive in regards to foreign policy. And here Kerry says the same thing and he gets blasted for it by Cheney. The difference is that Kerry realy will be sensitive regarding foreign affairs whereas the Bush administration was just blowing hot air. I really think this is one of the most important issues in the upcoming elections as BushCo has destroyed our credibility worldwide.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-04 01:51 PM
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5. Cheney is just what makes people not trust the government
Bush-Cheney '04: Maybe now the British will abandon us
This adminstration is horrible at making allies and keeping allies, its like a snobby kid who is a jerk to all his friends because they wont go along. Kerry=Edwards is willing to listen to others not just my way or the high way. Hopefully people will find out how messed up this admin is and listen.
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buycitgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-04 04:58 PM
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11. NO! the DIFFERENCE is that the MEDIA report only one side
I've seen ONE outlet play some clips of various thugs using the S word in the same context as Kerry, and it may have been the Daily Show

they REFUSE to point out the constant lies, and hypocrisy of the fascist party

course, if they did that it would take up their ENTIRE news day to cover a small percentage of said mendacity

not that they do anything of the sort
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volosong Donating Member (412 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-04 05:06 PM
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12. Cheney's Smirking about "Sensitive"
Dick Cheney's kindergarten remarks about "sensitivity" can only make us all thankful that far wiser and calmer minds prevailed during the 1962 Cuban Missile Crisis or we would all be dead long ago.

The absence of smarts and sensitivity may be the reason why our Iraq adventure has developed into a thrombosed hemorrhoid on the buttocks of America.

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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-04 05:08 PM
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13. thats a fine point
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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-04 01:43 PM
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2. It just makes him look more ridiculous than ever.
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Proud liberal Kat Donating Member (217 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-04 01:45 PM
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3. Yes and yes
I think it points out what an ASS he is and is being spread rather effectively (well at least more effectively than most of the ridiculous BS that comes out of Bush&CO's mouths)!
Kathy
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chuck555 Donating Member (199 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-04 02:04 PM
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6. Cheney is a mistake.
second time condoms always leak.
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5X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-04 02:59 PM
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8. I like the picture of cheney's origins n/t
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wellstone dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-04 02:57 PM
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7. I think this would make a great tv ad
Cheney's flip flops

Go to Cheney's criticism of Kerry, fade to Cheney's use of "sensitive."
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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-04 03:30 PM
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9. The only problem is, you use that kind of ad
to drive someone's numbers down. And Cheney is probably already close to the most unliked political figure in America. Surely the most remote.

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steph_in_az Donating Member (38 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-04 04:50 PM
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10. I think Bush and Cheney are both idiots!
I thought Dick Cheney looked like a sore looser bully, that was trying to convince "followers" that he was cool, while showing off to all the other bullies in the Bush administration. What he doesn't get, is that he made a fool of himself and looked so completely insensitive about the war that his true intentions shined. How can you NOT be sensitive to a country that we have invaded that has innocent people and children that are getting blown up everyday, or what about all our men and woman that are getting killed everyday to satisfy this vendetta.
How can you NOT be sensitive to a war that was started on false information, how do we ask for our allies to support us in ending this war without a bow of the head, and a little sensitivity displayed?? Maybe Kerry is referring to America's embarrassment, shame and regret when he says he will be sensitive when dealing with the subjects of this war. After all Kerry has first hand knowledge of a pointless war and worked hard to stop it, with passion and democracy instead shock and awe.....

Sometimes sitting back with a peace of mind and showing humbleness towards evil, allows us to understand it better. Bush had taken us back to the primitive idea of an eye for an eye, the problem is his narrow minded concept that there is only one way and it's black and white it's his way, doesn't work with terrorist and dictators like Saddam.

Sure 9/11 changed everything, and I believe invading Afghanistan was the right thing to do when the Taliban chose to harbor Bin Laden, but the Bush administration chose to invade Iraq for their own gain, and they used 9/11 to feed on our fears. They should have stayed with the task at hand, capturing Bin Laden, and half of the shit happening in Iraq wouldn't be happening. We left one of the most evil men to hide and went after one that was an easy target. The proof is in the pudding, Bush's plan didn't work!

So maybe, just maybe, Kerry can show a little sensitivity to try and end this bloodbath. Kerry has the experience fighting a war at home trying to end a war abroad, let him save our integrity as a nation so we can start mending the fallout of a bunch of American bullies.

In 2000, I watched as they swore in my new president George W. Bush and his sidekick, decision maker war happy, Dick Cheney, and I sat back wondering what the hell had just happened, and as it dawned on me that we were all just duped, the message that the Bush Camp was banking on was....DON'T BOTHER TO VOTE!!...With that attitude he was guaranteed a second term...The 2000 election was a mockery of our political system, even down to having the only option of voting for the lesser of two evils. But that was then and this is now, and as Bush/Cheney have 9/11 to feed off, and a war to defend, we as Americans have a good solid example now of the differences between a Republican President and a Democrat one, Clinton lead us to success, Bush tore it down...Now we have John Kerry and John Edwards to mend our wounds and save us from self destruction and repair the wrong doings of this administration.
All we can pray for are for these two men to bring our country back together.
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