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newmajority Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 01:58 PM
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Fucking Hillbot on Thom Hartmann show trying to push "write in" campaign
Thom's response: "Sure, if you want three more Republicans on the Supreme Court".

Still she kept on whining. These Hillbots are SICK.
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TornadoTN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 01:59 PM
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1. She wouldn't answer the FACTS about the Supreme Court
She just kept going on with the tired old talking points about "since Hillary didn't win, they are disrespecting women".

The disconnect from reality is amazing.
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Heather MC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 02:05 PM
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15. HOW?
I really feel sorry for unmedicated crazy people, who get on TV
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 02:00 PM
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2. She sounded like the banker lady from the Beverly Hillbillies
Only stoopider.
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Binka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 02:25 PM
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34. Miss Hathaway?
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 02:30 PM
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38. Dat's the one!!
Sounded like she was looking way down her nose while she talked.

She would have sounded snotty ordering pizza.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 02:01 PM
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3. Is her name Harriet?
:eyes:
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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 02:02 PM
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5. Naw. Sounds like Geraldine...n/t
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 04:51 PM
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55. I LOVED Geraldine
"What you see, is what you get. . ."


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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 02:01 PM
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4. With BO as Dem candidate but voting for HC would still equate to voting for a Dem, interesting. n/t
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DAGDA56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 02:03 PM
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9. You use an odd style of sentence construction...
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 02:04 PM
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12. What don't you understand? n/t
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DAGDA56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 02:06 PM
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20. What you are trying to say...
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 02:09 PM
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25. Again, if BO is the Dem candidate, then a vote for HC is a vote for a Dem. n/t
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DAGDA56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 02:13 PM
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26. Ok, I get it now...it would likely be a write in vote, but a vote none the less...
...I guess some people are worried that a vote for Clinton is a vote Obama does not get...meaning a de facto vote for McCain. By the way, I personally find referring to Senator Obama as "BO" to be a little childish, don't you think?
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 02:16 PM
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28. Not childish because I want to make my point in the subject and the space is limited. Perhaps it is
the reader that is childish.
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RandiFan1290 Donating Member (721 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 02:26 PM
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35. It's the McCain campaign
They are on H44 grooming Hillary supporters to vote McCain. They tell them that if they write in Hillary, their votes would be counted for Obama by the DNC's "dirty tricks."
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 02:02 PM
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6. your swearing and name-calling is not necessary
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TornadoTN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 02:06 PM
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18. As a Hillary supporter, do you agree with this woman's idea?
Do you feel that a write-in campaign would be beneficial to our Democracy?

Do you feel that a write-in vote for Hillary in the GE is more important than securing our democracy for the future and the rights of all of us?
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 02:16 PM
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29. its a democracy. --go for it.
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writes3000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 02:02 PM
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7. When can we ban the idiotic "Hillbot" meme?
I will cheer when that day comes.
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newmajority Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 02:08 PM
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22. I'd say right around June 10
That will be one week from today, or the day when Skinner's "7 day grace period" after we have a nominee has ended. At that point, there will be no more Hillbots on this board, so there will be no need for the term. :)
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ellacott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 02:03 PM
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8. She said Thom was using fear tactics just like Bush
Thom said he wasn't using fear, he was using facts.
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susankh4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 02:04 PM
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11. No, Thom, the fact are thus:
John McCain opposes the repeal of Roe v. Wade.

Look it up.
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TornadoTN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 02:08 PM
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24. Considering he's running as fast as he can to the right and Bush
It wouldn't surprise me should his position change overnight.

Not to mention the fact that repealing Roe would fall to the Supreme Court, and who knows what kind of insane right-wing whacko's that he might put on the court.

So I take it you are planning to vote for McCain, since your Democratic candidate of choice lost?
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susankh4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 02:17 PM
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30. I have seen his Supreme court voting record.
Have you?
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TornadoTN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 02:25 PM
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33. Plan on voting for McCain in November?
Answer that question. It's very simple and we all pretty much know the answer.

Also, look outside of just one issue. Your vote for McCain, your temper-tantrum, will be a clear endorsement of all of the other things that McCain stands for that real Democrats and the majority of this country despise.

In no uncertain terms - there will be blood on your hands should you do so.
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Bjornsdotter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 02:33 PM
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41. Oh the drama
Edited on Tue Jun-03-08 02:34 PM by Bjornsdotter
"In no uncertain terms - there will be blood on your hands should you do so."

Oh the drama....blood on your hands.

Yawn....
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TornadoTN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 02:47 PM
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43. Care to dispute that fact?
Want to vote for 4-8 more years of unfettered, unchecked war?

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Bjornsdotter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 02:55 PM
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47. Yeah I do

You can't predict the future.

Oh the blood, Oh the blood....drama at it's worst.

Beat the fear drum as loud as you want, it's not working
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susankh4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 02:53 PM
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45. Blood on my hands?
Edited on Tue Jun-03-08 02:56 PM by susankh4
I'm a midwife by training. I'm used to it.

They are gonna have to do better than this.....
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Bjornsdotter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 03:03 PM
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49. Watch for the Roe v Wade

...argument next. They are so predictable.

:popcorn:
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TornadoTN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 03:35 PM
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51. Glad to see so many enthusiastic McCain supporters here today
Freeperville is that way, not sure how you got lost on you way over there.
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Bjornsdotter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 05:38 PM
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57. I followed a star here


...and you?
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susankh4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 02:51 PM
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44. NOYB.
In this country... last time I looked.... what went on in the voting booth was private.

Did that change under the Bushies? Do we now have to report to our party members or something?
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TornadoTN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 03:36 PM
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52. Hilarious and completely predictable
It's ok, Operation Chaos has been ended.

But sharpen your pencils so you can get to your Hillary write-in protest votes!
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susankh4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 02:55 PM
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46. Blood on my hands?
I'm a midwife. I'm used to it.

Next threat....?????
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ellacott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 02:23 PM
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32. Well John needs to update his website
Overturning Roe v. Wade

John McCain believes Roe v. Wade is a flawed decision that must be overturned, and as president he will nominate judges who understand that courts should not be in the business of legislating from the bench.

http://www.johnmccain.com/Informing/Issues/95b18512-d5b6-456e-90a2-12028d71df58.htm
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jsmirman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 02:31 PM
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39. There you go. Stick that in your pipe. What do you know McCain is dancing to their tune.
He has to and he will. Expecting anything less makes you a patsy and the "I told you so" will be extremely unfulfilling for us.
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jsmirman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 02:30 PM
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36. There is NO WAY he gets the support he needs without offering the justices those people want
they will make specific demands and those demands will be met. They don't make screw ups like Souter anymore or even half-screw ups like Kennedy.

Have you read The Nine?

McCain needs support from a particular base- the same base that got Roberts and Alito and would have accepted nothing less.
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 02:30 PM
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37. good for you, vote republican.....
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 02:04 PM
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10. In the county I used to live in, the county clerk used to not count write in votes
She just threw them away. I'm not sure if that's legal, but I suspect that's what often happens with write-ins.
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 02:04 PM
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13. So they want Hillary to be Nader?
Guess they dont really care about her that much after all.
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 02:05 PM
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14. Why not just rub your private parts all over the ballots
It'll be just as effective, and you'll at least get off.



Goddamit people.

:eyes:
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LisaM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 02:05 PM
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16. Do any of you GET IT?
There are a lot of people who are upset and feel that they are being pushed out of the way. I've listened to a number of women calling in to Thom Hartmann today. Most sound older, and they sound fed up. No one is listening to them. I personally don't think that the threats to write in, or not vote, are sincere, but I find the lack of sympathy (not by Hartmann) to how visibly upset these women are is really bothersome. I think for a lot of these women, they feel Hillary was their last, best chance to see a woman president in their lifetime - in many cases, women who have probably spent decades working for the Democratic party. It's sort of this, "thanks, now bye, see you later" mentality that is poisoning the climate.
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newmajority Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 02:14 PM
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27. There were 8 candidates in this primary. 7 of them lost.
It happens exactly like that every 4 years. Actually it was much worse in 2004, because there was a definite pressure to force Kerry as the nominee in February, and Howard Dean was outright ROBBED.

But Dean's supporters voted for the nominee in November. I don't know a single one who didn't.

I don't know a single Bill Bradley supporter who didn't vote for Al Gore in 2000, or a Tsongas supporter who didn't vote for Bill Clinton in 1992.

I don't know why Hillary supporters should consider themselves any different than any of the above.
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LisaM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 02:41 PM
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42. As I said, I don't really think they will vote for McCain
I don't know anyone personally who will. But this race is a statistical TIE. It's not the same as other years, where the margin of victory was much bigger.

I still see an astounding lack of sympathy for women who have been in the party for years and feel that they have been pushed aside. These are women like my mother, who have been giving the Democrats their all for 40 years plus and feel like they're being given the boot.

The analogy I've heard used to the workplace, where an older woman is passed over for a promotion by some new, younger employee hits home to these women. They are being kicked to the curb, and they know it. It's very unfortunate.
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newmajority Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 04:46 PM
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53. OK, using your analogy
How many of those women in the workplace were the wife of the former CEO, trying to get his job?

I'd bet not many of them, if any.

I'm in favor of equal pay for equal work, and equal opportunity for advancement, but the analogy really doesn't work here. If the woman in that analogous situation was claiming her CEO husband's experience as her own, she would probably be less successful in her attempt than Hillary was in hers.
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LisaM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 04:47 PM
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54. Unless she started and ran her own company for eight years
Edited on Tue Jun-03-08 04:47 PM by LisaM
Hillary has done a lot more than just be Bill's wife.
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Erin Elizabeth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 08:14 PM
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62. What company did she start and run for eight years?
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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 03:11 PM
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50. I understand that many women are going to upset. My local
Dem Women's Club meets next Tuesday and I dread it. There are 3 older women (70's and 1 early 80's) who are going to be crushed as they felt like this was their chance to see a woman elected to the Presidency. Yeah, I get it.

I also understand that we've been through broken hearts before when our local preferred candidates lost a primary, and I can't imagine that these women would ever consider pulling this spiteful stunt of write-ins, sitting it out, and I believe they'd cut their hands off before they'd vote for McSame. I will try to console my friends, but when women are threatening to help put McSame into office, it pisses other Democrats off, and thus the hostile reaction.
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LisaM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 08:08 PM
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59. Well if they're in their 70s and 80s......
it's not just a question of getting your heart broken one more time. It's a fact that maybe it's the last chance for some of them.
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Erin Elizabeth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 08:12 PM
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61. Unfortunately, though, the "last, best chance"
they were pinning all their hopes on was Hillary Clinton. Not the best candidate. Didn't run a good campaign. Couldn't beat Obama. It's a competition. That's the way things go sometimes. :shrug:

Even if I don't see a woman president in my lifetime (but I probably will) I know it WILL happen. And I can still be happy to see the first African-American president. We're getting a first regardless of which way it goes.

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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 02:06 PM
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17. Normal GOP memo attack points .... these are not democrats


This is the link to the McCain memo

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=6235972&mesg_id=6235972





This is what happens on the internet during primaries


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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 02:06 PM
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19. Yes, this is about the fourth one ...
I've heard, they have been making nonsensical statements about why they won't vote for Obama..
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 02:08 PM
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23. See my above post.
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InAbLuEsTaTe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 02:07 PM
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21. Don't worry, they'll fall in line. They have nowhere else to go.
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Stardust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 02:23 PM
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31. She makes me ashamed to be of her demographic. What a bunch
of losers. And we ALL lose if they follow thru with their write-in campaign. Hillary has set back the women's movement a hundred years. How can ANY Democrat vote for someone who voted for the IWR?
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Hoof Hearted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 02:33 PM
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40. I refuse to be cowed by the stick of Roe v. Wade and I WILL be writing her in.
Nice flamebait, BTW. Is that Hickory or Mesquite?
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 04:54 PM
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56. Are you honestly so wrapped up in your own little world that
you don't care if we get John McBush and another war in Iran to add to our neverending war in Iraq? You really don't give a shit that McBush is going to do away with employer-provided health insurance and cause the number of uninsured to quadruple (conservative estimate)? McCain not only wants to have Roe overturned, he wants to ban abortions for rape victims, incest victims and women who might die without one. Is your loyalty to Hillary worth the lives a vote that enables McCain will cost?
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Erin Elizabeth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 08:14 PM
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63. Do you vote on a machine that even allows write-in votes?
Better find out.
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Stardust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 02:55 PM
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48. Can we write in an alternate VP if Hillary's on the ballot?
Just kidding, but just about as childish.
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 05:41 PM
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58. Anybody hear the Hillbots on Washington Journal this morning?
It sounded like they were reading off a script, and doing a mighty poor job of it. They are all voting for McCain. :rolleyes:
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Erin Elizabeth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 08:10 PM
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60. You know, you can't even do that on a lot of voting machines.
I know where I am, you don't have the option of writing in anyone. You can just not vote in that race. But writing someone in is not an option.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 08:19 PM
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64. When will you stop your hate?
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