I'm overwhelmed with what has just happened. Our party nominated a minority.

We beat back the establishment. The DLC. The ordained. The machine.

For months I wouldn't let myself believe we would really do it. Not because he's black, (although that appeals to me) but because of his judgment and character. If there is ANY hope to change DC it is Obama.

When I heard Carter endorsed Obama and as I watch the countdown on TV, I'm fighting back tears of joy.

We did this once before, with McGovern, but we didn't follow through. The lesson is we need to keep it together, fight back the war mongers, and fight like hell.

This year we must.

PB

:hug:

I am pleased as heck about Obama being the nominee for the same reasons you are and that he is an opportunity for open government Democrats like me, since I have long supported Open Government Democrats over all others.


People forget that Kerry uncovered more government corruption than any lawmaker in modern history and the DC powerstructure has been gunning for him since Nixon's WH.

You think all the backstabbing was coming just from Bush?
http://www.depauw.edu/news/index.asp?id=13354

Bill used his summer2004 book tour to defend Bush on his Iraq war decisions from the criticisms being levels against him by the Dem nominee at the time.
http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/06/19/clinton.iraq/

Carville was working for establishment DC when he sabotaged Ohio Dem voters on election night.
http://www.tpmcafe.com/blog/coffeehouse/2006/oct/07/did_carville_tip_bush_off_to_kerry_strategy_woodward


Establishment DC sounds like this....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dk1k0nUWEQg

I expected him to be President for most of my adult life.

He would have been amazing.

Hope you can watch "UNCOUNTED: The New Math of American Elections" (see clip at www.uncountedthemovie.com), "Stealing America: Vote by Vote", "The Right to Count"; or you can read any of the several fine analyses of the 2004 stolen election. Dr. Richard Hays Phillips' new book involving his exhaustive research into the theft in Ohio would be an excellent read.

He organized a bad campaign and didn't get any help from the establishment. He has a dysfunctional DNC under McAuliffe and a Party strategy that left absolutely no room for error.

I was frustrated at the Kerry campaign, but after seeing just how insidious this whole DLC establishment is, I can very much appreciate how Kerry was up against it.

I'm glad to have him on our team, and he will take on a much more important role as people like Byrd and Kennedy eventually leave the scene. There are only a handful of other Senators from Kerry's generation worth keeping. I love the new class with leaders like Webb.

It is Kerry's national political network that Obama tapped into as Kerry gave him that access long before he publicly endorsed him. Subtract all the Clinton loyalists acting as saboteurs and the Dem party has some honest hardworking Dems in place nationally and Obama benefitted from that network.

What Kerry didn't have was a DNC that secured the election process as it was in the tank at the time for Hillary2008 and would not work to shore up collapsed party infrastructure in crucial states like Ohio, even after 2000s blatant theft.

Good lord that was a trainwreck of Hillaryesque proportions!

and the McAuliffe led DNC sat on their hands for four years and let them do it again.

I know AG is an important position, but it is a limited term. We have lost, or will be losing a generation of progressive leaders in the Senate. We need Kerry's intellect and philosophical leadership in that important body. With Ted and Byrd having some severe health setbacks, we need a strong progressive voice to fend off the DINOs that seem to be everywhere in the Senate.

Basically, we need ten strong years from Kerry to give us the opportunity to get some help for Webb and the newer generation. We have to be firing on all cylinders to take this country back. Everyone has a role to play. Just look at Dean. Many of us were disappointed when his Presidential bid ended, but look at what he has been able to do in the role he found. Look at what Gore and Carter have been able to do. I think the place for Kerry is right where he is -- now more than ever.

The $$ establishment put out a hit contract-if not on him physically, then on his campaign. First they took out Dean (as exemplified in the scream thing), then Kerry.

Obama tshirts today and I had so many people make positive remarks. It was unreal. I went to vote for my senator, local sheriff and mayor earlier and people pretty much cheered my tshirt that said, "It's Obama Time!" It was a cross section of people too, women, men, white, black and a few Asians..young, in the middle and older too.

Yippie!!! I'm so glad I'm alive to see history made, as is my mother, siblings, friends and family, and countrymen! I only wish my father and grandmother were alive to see it..I had a great (2x) uncle hung in the late 30's down south, for looking at a white woman (which is part of the reason a great chunk of my family now lives in the Northeast), so believe it is so HUGE! So amazing. So wonderful!

and we will :)

Work to bring about a total Democratic victory--in the White House but also the House and Senate. Do what you can to help at a local level--write LTTE, help with phone banks, donate money if you have it.

I agree it is momentous. But Sen. Obama has a black father and a white mother. Yet in our country, in 2008 no less, he is generally viewed as "black". I'm not casting any aspersions on you or anyone else. I'm just saying that, culturally in America today, he is viewed as "black" because he has some recognizable African features. He could just as easily be viewed as "white" were our country one in which this were NOT such a big deal. (in truth, he is really just a "mutt", as most of us whose families have been in America very long are)

I hope one day, when he is President Obama, and decides to continue the dialogue on race that (to his credit) Bill Clinton tried to start, he will make that point: "Why do you see me as the first "black" president? I am proud of that part of my heritage. But because you do see me as "black", it tells me that we still have a lot of work to do in this country as far as our attitudes towards race."

yet he lives and is considered a black man. But maybe you are right that it depends on your characteristics i.e. how black you look.

Unless it is based on the race that your father is....which is sexist!!!! :)

I'm thrilled I got to play a miniscule part in this. :toast:

now both action and prayers to not let it get away (and Clinton as VPs would probably mean losing even if BO will be president, in my humble and biased opinion at least).

But for now: :toast:

Oh, 40 years ago I would have said that of course we'd see this happen, and a lot sooner than now. Things didn't work out the way we'd hoped for a long time. I'm just glad to have stuck around long enough to see it. I wish my parents could have.

we just went through. Had Bush even done ONE thing right, I doubt the nation would have finally looked at the Why not aspect of a black President.

and yes, we can!

myself, my mostly cynical husband who suddenly cares, and especially I remember a young black girl I canvassed with for a few hours a month ago, her joy, enthusiasm, initial and partly hidden surprise that I can be as enthusiastic as she was though our skins look different and she could have been my daughter, etc.

:toast:

There is hope.

GOBAMA!!

We still have to win the White House.

The "credentials" he possessed at birth mean nothing to me.

It is significant that Democrats have expanded the parameters of acceptable characteristics of our candidates for President. It's just that I cringe at any discourse that leads with his race (or Hillary's gender) as the more important qualifications he/she will bring to our White House.

I do applaud the progress reflected in Obama's nomination. It means that the world my grand-god-daughter Grace will inherit has made more room for her also. (Her absentee father is also Black.)

race and gender and it's been hell, lol, hasn't it?

But, we're further along for the doing of it.

For the kids! :toast:

not because he's black, but because of his judgment and character.

Enough of the ass-kissing.

No more Mr. Nice Democrat.

The republicans have driven this country into the ground and it is time for us to TAKE IT BACK!

I have never been so proud of our nation as I am today!

A shitty rhyme, but a rhyme.

Did only half of Obama get nominated?

I wonder what the other half will do for 8 years?

:)

:woohoo:

Kick their asses! ! ! !

until we have a REAL majority on the hill...

Go Dems!

I know, I know, I'm just being a doofus.

...than do those of the usual suspects. Obama is America, in a significant way.