Dedicated Obama supporter here (from the beginning) - WOULD BE JUST FINE WITH HILLARY AS VP!!

Flame away, but I think of what it would have been like when you compare Gore/Lieberman to Bush/Cheney.

I don't want to take the chance that we will have another eight years of Bush incompetence.

Hillary is not my first choice, but if she's needed to win in January(I mean November :)), then I'm all for it.

As long as he's fine with it. He may not be.

survive it:

www.americablog.coma:

This sounds pretty rigorous -- and the potential V.P. nominees have to comply.

Hillary always claims she's fully vetted, but that's not true. And, the vetting process includes the spouse.

Basically, this means Obama's vetting team would have access to all the Clinton's records -- all the stuff that hasn't become public. The Clintons would have to open up the library funders and foundation donors. They'd have to name everyone who has paid Bill Clinton to speak or do any other work. They'd investigate all of Bill's dealings with Ron Burkle, for example. And, for sure, they'd have to investigate a lot of other rumors that swirl about.

The Clintons can keep their own secrets when they run the show. But, this won't be their show. They won't have Howard Wolfson and his team stonewalling reporters who are asking prying questions.

If the Clintons want the V.P. job, they can't say no to any question asked. And, it's pretty clear that Jim Johnson knows what questions to ask. That seems like a risky proposition for the Clintons. Sure would be fun to be a fly on the wall during those interviews.

The angst around here is pretty amusing.

The same people that are arguing against Hillary being VP are the same ones that argue with Hillary supporters about voting for McCain.

It makes no sense that you could be against one (if she is needed) and then argue for the other.

or is that seven?

I agree.

I would prefer anyone else (well besides Richardson because I think that ticket will lose)

But if he picks her I will still campaign and donate

Hillary would not be my first choice. I like a few others.. like Webb, but would be fine with any Democrat if it helps get Obama elected.

I'm not sure how you determine that, but we need to do whatever we can to win this time.

I, for one, don't want another war with Iran.

I ask because I dont know a single Obama volunteer that shares your view. I certainly do NOT.

That's all I'm saying. I'm NOT saying she is needed; I'm just saying that IF she is needed I'd be okay with her as VP.

Period.

If she's not needed, then I hope he picks someone I like better.

I just hope you're not wrong.

But theres no way of knowing either way. I just think that ultimately, she and Bill would be bad for his run.

I don't think she is the best choice but I would have no problem with the ticket.

Let's be reasonable.

Again, not my first choice.

and if not tonight, before the week is over.

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Geez!

If Hillary was on the ticket, not only would the GOPers never vote for her, but now a large number of Democrats (including African-Americans) won't vote for Obama if she is on the ticket.

Hillary on the ticket would be the best get-out-the-vote and register-to-vote drive the GOP could have ever designed. Rightwingers who could not be bothered before to either register to vote or show up on election day to vote would come down from the hills if it meant they could smack Hillary around in the voting-booth.

And they just might enjoy it so much, they might return on future elections to see if it's as much fun to smack other Democrats around in the voting booth, negatively impacting the Dems' chances in future elections.

FOr more reasons why Hillary would doom Obama and his administration, visit:

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/PoliticalAmazon

First post.

And, where did I say she's needed to win? I said, 'if she is needed'.

Yeah it's the "mouth pieces" that are saying that.

Take a walk outside of the cocoon of DU and the internet. I have spoken to many people that are democrats who supported Hillary that can't STAND Obama and the only way they will not stay at home is w/ Hillary on ticket. AND I would bet the same would have been the case if Hillary were at the top of the ticket and Obama being considered for VP.

if he wants it, then I'll support him on it. I don't think that Hillary should be forced upon Obama.

I do not trust her temper, and feel she would make a terrible President. I find her very egocentric and self serving.

The many trials and tribulations Obama has endured has convinced me he has what it takes. I am impressed as to how he has endured the Media Microscope and the many slurs thrown at him in the Primary.

There are much better choices out there than Hillary Clinton.