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FSogol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 02:59 PM
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Poll question: Poll: What is your definition of party unity?
Edited on Tue Jun-03-08 03:04 PM by FSogol
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FSogol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 03:01 PM
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1. 2 and 3 IMO. n/t
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dana_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 03:29 PM
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20. I'm with you.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 03:34 PM
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24. .
:thumbsup:
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 03:02 PM
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2. How can there be party unity when Repug and Ind. voters participated in choosing the Dem candidate?
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newmajority Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 03:14 PM
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9. So does that mean you're conceding Ohio and Pennsylvania?
Where Hillary's narrow margin of "victory" came from Mush Limpdick's Dildoheads.
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 03:18 PM
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11. Any way you look at the results, BO or HC, the simple fact is the candidate was not chosen by Dems.
IMO that works against party unity.
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newmajority Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 03:22 PM
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16. If every state had a closed Democratic primary
And presumably the Repukes did the same thing, who would independents vote for?

And what should Republicans who were fed up with their party because of Chimp and the neocons do? Should they be forced to vote for McCain, just because he has an "R" after his name?

I can't stand what the Dildoheads did with their "Operation KKKhaos", but I don't see a problem with Indies and sincere Republicans crossing over to vote for the best candidate.
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apocalypsehow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 03:27 PM
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19. I wouldn't waste my time with that one - he's not voting for the Democratic candidate regardless.
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 03:35 PM
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25. If you are referring to me, I've voted for straight Dem ticket since Adlai Stevenson and I will
never change.

Are you a fair-weather Democratic who votes Dem only when your favorite is the candidate?
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 03:32 PM
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22. I see we disagree but I support closed Dem primaries in every state and territory that selects
delegates to choose the Democratic Party candidate.
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notesdev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 05:31 PM
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34. Actually...
... all reports have the independent/GOP spoiler vote having gone heavily for Hillary, who is not going to be the nominee.

So the point is moot. Democrats chose Obama, and Obama is going to be the next President.

So no matter how passionate a Hillary supporter you are, if you are loyal to the Democrat party, then the right thing to do is to get behind Obama.

It's not as if his policies are that much different from Hillary's, when it comes down to it.
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 06:23 PM
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42. I've personally browsed every exit poll from Dem primaries and many of them show GOP/Ind votes went
to Obama as opposed to Clinton, e.g.

PA Independent 14% of the vote with HC 46% and BO 54%

LA
Republican 5% of the vote with HC 17% and BO 53%
Independent 12% of the vote with HC 36% and BO 53%

CA
Independent 18% of the vote with HC 34% and BO 58%

See exit polls for each state at http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 03:07 PM
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3. Not surprising, since this is ObamaUndergound
the "winning" response is for Clinton and her supporters to come cowering, groveling, asking for forgiveness, willing to walk the streets with a huge letter C placard, ready to accept their lashes and spitting.

With this attitude, don't be surprised if many will stay home or vote for McCain. And the Obama supporters, for whom humiliating the Clinton supporters is more important than winning, this will be a celebration. Why take on the responsibility of governing when wallowing in self pity and hatred is so much easier?
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 03:12 PM
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Here's Harriet, your poster girl ...


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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 05:40 PM
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39. I like that. Mind if I use it from time to time?
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 05:48 PM
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40. You bet. It seemed about as accurate as anything I can find.
Especially apt on DU.
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NatBurner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 03:25 PM
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17. ^dramatic
namaste
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dana_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 03:31 PM
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21. no, you're wrong.
The most important thing is getting the White House back and not voting for the Repubs!! It's not all about you, or me, or any of us here. Partially, of course, but what about the soldiers, victims of Katrina, impoverished, those who really feel like they don't have a voice in this administration?

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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 03:09 PM
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4. Its everyone doing what I say, damnit.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 03:12 PM
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8. I'll have to agree with that.
It's everyone doing what I say, dammit!
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 03:10 PM
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5. Other: Voting 'D' in November.
Period.
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endarkenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 03:10 PM
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6. victory in the ge.
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newmajority Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 03:12 PM
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7. 2 & 3. Definitely NOT one.
Healing Hillary supporters is all well and good, but healing the Country is the most important thing. And that can't happen with the 50 ton boat anchor of the Clintons/DLC hanging off this ticket.
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cbayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 05:28 PM
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31. Anchors are good.
They keep you from being swept away and crashing into the rocks. I like anchors.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 03:14 PM
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10. If you say "no way" to #1, you better have a good explanation...
to the large percentage of Hillary supporters who don't think she's done anything wrong.
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 03:18 PM
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12. It's not about whether she's done anything "wrong," but about
consistency of the change message. Hillary ran for quite a while as the establishment candidate. She has used lots of divisive language to score political points too. I need to hear some serious language from her about how she can support the party nominee on his campaign message. I haven't seen anything from her that constitutes much more than lip service to campaigning. I want to hear concrete statements about how she support change.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 03:59 PM
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27. That's a totally valid reason, IMO
I hope the Hillary fans agree.
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Lilith Velkor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 05:18 PM
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28. I might agree if I could understand it
She's supposed to make concrete statements about unspecified 'change?' That makes no sense to me.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 05:25 PM
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29. You might want to look at his speeches & website.
That criticism is the only thing hollow about the message.
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Lilith Velkor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 05:51 PM
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41. So you don't know either.
Thought so.
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 05:36 PM
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37. They can suck it up, or fuck off
The number of McCain voters aren't as large as some try to make out.

They're called the lunatic dead-enders for a reason.
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Aloha Spirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 03:20 PM
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13. Party unity--the presumption that everybody else has something valuable to contribute.
When people simmer down and start listening to what the other people are saying, then we'll have unity.
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Xenotime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 03:21 PM
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14. Obama owes her the offer of the position
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 03:22 PM
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15. This is not a new process. It happens every four years. It's a dance.
And when the winner wins, the winners get to strut around and stick their chests out. The losers go off and lick their wounds, and find their way back to the party at their own pace. But if they don't come back and help for the fight that remains, we'll all know they don't count for anything, and that's how we will treat them.

That's how it's always been and always will be.
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apocalypsehow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 03:26 PM
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18. #3, and that should be accompanied with an apology by the HRC boosters to the Obama supporters
for the vitriol and racism some of them have indulged in.
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seasat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 03:33 PM
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23. Simply have the circular firing squad face outwards.
I don't care how they do it, I want the party to quickly come together. We've got a once in a lifetime election where we can hit the trifecta. We can have solid Democratic majorities in the House and Senate along with controlling the presidency. That means, with a lot of help from grass roots support, we can push through our entire agenda and get the country back on track. I'll leave the best way to promote unity up to the party insiders. However, whatever it takes, I want it to happen.
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 03:36 PM
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26. Neither one can unite the party seperately...
It can only be done with them working enthusiastically together. Hillary would have to fully support Obama...even in those issues they disagreed with each other. Obama would also have to go the extra mile in order to show his great respect with each other.

It doesn't necessarily mean Hillary should get the VP slot...as much as I'd like it.

It means that both need each other and should work side-by-side.

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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 05:27 PM
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30. Vote with us or get away from DU and go to freeperville where you belong.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 05:30 PM
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32. get to work to ensure victory in November..
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 05:30 PM
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33. Beats me. After 42 years as a Democrat, I've never seen it.
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cbayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 05:32 PM
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35. A combination of things.
Number 2 is the most important, and Obama knows that. It will greatly facilitate #3 happening. I would like for him to want her as his VP, but I am willing to trust his judgment on this one.
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 05:34 PM
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36. Everyone should get off their "pity pots" and work 'TOGETHER' to TAKE BACK THIS COUNTRY!!
:grr:
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 05:39 PM
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38. 2 & 3.
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4_Legs_Good Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 06:24 PM
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43. The ball is actually in Clinton's court
She's the one who needs to reach out and repair the rifts. Dean said he had to do the same thing in 2004, to prove that he really, really wanted his supporters to support Kerry.

Clinton now has to do the same.

I hope she does.

David
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 06:38 PM
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44. Other:
A brokered convention that nominates someone who actually CAN unify the party.

In other words, I don't think it's going to happen.
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