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KillCapitalism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 10:18 AM
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What if Hillary refuses to concede?
My crystal ball says that Hillary will not concede & that she will not recognize Obama as the nominee. What happens then?
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Caution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 10:19 AM
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1. She may have sway over her supporters but she won't be on the ballot as a Dem
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MrCoffee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 10:20 AM
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2. Then they count up the votes at the convention and whoever has the most is the nominee.
Which is exactly what they're going to do anyway.
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gravity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 10:20 AM
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3. She basically conceded
Although not explicit, she is doing nothing but prasing Obama and stressing the need to elect a Democrat after last night. Relax, it is going to happen soon enough.
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 10:21 AM
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It goes to the Convention. She hasn't "conceded" because no one's won anything yet.
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krawhitham Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 10:27 AM
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18. In a day or so all her SD will leave her
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Hugabear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 10:32 AM
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23. What's it like living in that alternate universe?
More than enough superdelegates have pledged their support to Obama. True, he didn't win enough delegates during the primaries, but the superdelegates have put him over the edge - by a large margin.

Do you honestly think that hundreds of superdelegates are suddenly going to change their mind between now and Denver? Or is the plan to challenge each and every one of them?
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 10:21 AM
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4. It goes to the Convention. She hasn't "conceded" because no one's won anything yet.
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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 10:21 AM
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5. What happens then? She destroys her political future.
Edited on Wed Jun-04-08 10:22 AM by Spider Jerusalem
She won't be allowed to hold the party hostage. And might end up finding herself with no influence when she returns to the Senate (because if she carries on like that there's no way in hell she'll get the VP nod).
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endarkenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 10:21 AM
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6. It takes a village
The villagers grab their torches and pitchforks, storm the castle, and drive the monster out.
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 10:25 AM
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13. We'll call it the Samantha Power Brigade!
I want a T shirt with the heroic face of Power on it.

Martyr for Truth
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Lucky 13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 10:22 AM
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7. I think...
you will see 99% of her superdelegates abandon her and switch to Obama. Her supporters will dwindle to the few unreasonable ones like Harriet Christian. The few that do remain aren't enough to negotiate a hostage situation with. She will become increasingly irrelvant and, depending on how far she takes it, she will soon become a pariah within the party.

If she does try to mount some sort of 3rd party or write in bid - she will be relegated to the level of Perot, Nader, Buchanan and the Clinton legacy will officially be garbage.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 10:23 AM
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8. She'll join Zell Miller and Joe Lieberman as pariahs.
Simple.
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 10:23 AM
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9. She becomes Katherine Harris n/t
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 10:23 AM
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10. If that's the route she takes,
and spends the time between now and August presenting her argument to the SDs - then I think it will bode very poorly for our party and our success in November.

The longer she keeps trying to win, the longer her supporters will (understandably) stick with her, and we as a party don't get the time to heal and rebuild before the GE. We'll still be fighting each other rather than amassing a cohesive front to fight McCain. Machiavellian.

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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 10:24 AM
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11. I get the feeling from HRC's speech last night that she will treat it as a mandate
from her supporters, in other words, she HAS TO respect their wishes and plow on. She won't say it's her idea. That's the reason why she said she would make no decision last night and would "consult" with her advisors and supporters about what her next move will be. And to go to her website.

She will make sure her supporters won't be "abandoned". The hell with the general election.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 10:30 AM
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20. St. Hillary of Ark(ansas) has been delusional (megalomaniacal?) for many years

St. Hillary, 1993


Watercolor and gouache over graphite
on illustration board
Published in the New York Times Magazine,
May 23, 1993




http://www.loc.gov/rr/print/swann/kunz/kunz-exhibit.html
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 10:45 AM
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25. She said she wouldn't make any decision last night because Obama hasn't clinched the nomination yet.
Edited on Wed Jun-04-08 10:48 AM by Seabiscuit
If he had, she would have conceded as promised. She knows better than to swallow the crapola lies being spread by the MSM and the Obama camp.

Simple as that.

She has a lot of meetings with people today to help her make decisions about the future of her campaign.
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BonnieJW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 10:25 AM
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12. I think she and Bill will become reviled.
What was admired for commitment will soon turn into obsessive.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 10:31 AM
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21. Become? nt
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Fresh_Start Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 10:26 AM
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14. she'll still be irrelevant
ignore her
just ignore her
if more people ignore her, it will be over
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NeedleCast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 10:26 AM
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15. Very Little
She can run until her heart is content but that wont change the fact that Obama is the nominee. I could start running for President right now and my run would be just as valid as Hillary continuing her campaign.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 10:27 AM
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16. Damn! Then just ignore HRC. She's earned it. :( n/t
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cindyw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 10:27 AM
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17. She will be forgotten then. If she refuses to concede she will be irrelevant.
We'll turn out the lights in the convention center and she will have to give her speeches in the dark.
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 10:30 AM
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19. Hide your bunnies and your cutlery.
SHE WON'T BE IGNORED!!!
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Meshuga Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 10:32 AM
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22. Nothing
Since he has the votes necessary. Perhaps she would look like a schmuck but that's about it.
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Hola Donating Member (163 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 10:33 AM
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24. Nothing
She will be ignored and Obama and the Dems will do whatever they have to to win against McCain.
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miles 2 go Donating Member (368 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 10:57 AM
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26. Sorry to have to point out my ignorance but
can she run as a third party candidate?
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endarkenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 11:21 AM
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27. Sure but she will have trouble getting on the ballot in some states.
There is no play there for her though. She won't win and she won't be able to run in 2012 as Democrat.
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miles 2 go Donating Member (368 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 11:45 AM
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31. ok thanks
Not being able to run in 2012 as a dem is probably the only thing stopping her. I was concerned that she would try a Nader. Man I did respect her before but she is really really acting like a brat.

thanks for the info.
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greguganus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 11:22 AM
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28. "Phasers on stun, Captain" n/t
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 11:22 AM
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29. Obama goes on to beat McCain in the general election...still. nt
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pdx_prog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 11:27 AM
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30. I gave her the benefit of the doubt yesterday.....
I urged for everyone to leave her be and let her drop out on her own terms.

BUT....after last night I am convinced she is a lunatic. Mr. potato head winning the nomination was a giant leap forward for this country and she didn't have the decency to give him his due. What the hell is she hoping to accomplish here?

I hope the party shuts her down.....may she burn brightly on her way down.
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 11:49 AM
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32. Is someone on the impression that Hillary will concede? Delusional...
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FlyingSquirrel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 11:50 AM
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33. Well obviously you shake the ball again and hope for a different answer!
Oh wait that's the 8-ball.
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krawhitham Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 11:52 AM
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34. funny comic
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