Hillary haters are delusional............

Really, there is nothing she could have said last night to quelch the viciousness you have displayed. George Bush has never gotten this kind of hate on this board. There is absolutely no objectivity at all.

than about George W Bush. Which SHOULD give DUers pause. Unfortunately, it doesn't.

I have seen someone seriously claim that Hillary killed Vince Foster. That's just so stupid it belongs on Free Republic.

Saying Clinton can't be the VP pick because she'll assassinate Obama. Fucking moronic idiots living in delusional world.

If any of them have given as much of themselves to the party as Clinton has, I'd be so shocked, I think I'd have a heart attack.

Instead, these assholes hiding on the internet vilify a woman who has worked her whole life for issues we *say* are important to us, like poverty and children's issues.

if she's the veep"?

The ones saying they wouldn't vote for Obama? Those people?

Because shit like that used to get an autonuke here.

just the other day.

It's bizarre what has happened to this place.

And that's as it should be.

Hillary Clinton collaborated when she said and did nothing during the Senate confirmation of John Ashcroft.

Hillary Clinton collaborated when she said and did nothing during the Senate confirmation of Alberto Gonzales.

Hillary Clinton collaborated when she said and did nothing during the failed Senate confirmation of John Bolton.

Hillary Clinton collaborated when she argued AGAINST filibuster on the nomination of corrupt corporatist Priscilla Owen, clearing the way for her confirmation to the Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals.

Hillary Clinton collaborated when she argued AGAINST filibuster on the nomination of unqualified fascist Janice Rogers Brown, clearing the way for her confirmation to the DC Court of Appeals.

Hillary Clinton collaborated when she argued AGAINST filibuster on the nomination of religious zealot and homophobe William H. Pryor, clearing the way for his confirmation to the Eleventh Circuit Court of Appeals.

Hillary Clinton collaborated when she argued AGAINST filibuster on the nomination of John Roberts, clearing the way for his confirmation as Chief Justice of the United States Supreme Court.

Hillary Clinton collaborated when she said and did nothing during the Senate confirmation of Samuel Alito.

Hillary Clinton collaborated when she skipped the Senate debate and confirmation vote on Michael Mukasey.

Hillary Clinton collaborated when she refused to commit and speak out against the Military Commissions Act.

Hillary Clinton collaborated when she said and did nothing during this summer's vote on the Iraq War Supplemental.

Hillary Clinton collaborated when she said and did nothing during the vote to extend FISA.

Hillary Clinton collaborated when she said and did nothing during the Walter Reid scandal.

Hillary Clinton collaborated when she said and did nothing during the debate on Telecom Immunity.

Hillary Clinton collaborated when she SKIPPED the Senate vote to strip TelCo immunity from the FISA bill.

Hillary Clinton collaborated when she said and did nothing on the possible impeachment of Dick Cheney.

Hillary Clinton collaborated when she said and did nothing on the possible impeachment of George Bush.

Hillary Clinton collaborated when she said and did nothing against the myriad scandals surrounding the current administration.

Hillary Clinton collaborated when she campaigned for Joe Lieberman against Ned Lamont.

Hillary Clinton collaborated when she proposed legislation to ban flag burning.

Hillary Clinton collaborated when she voted FOR the 2001 Bankruptcy Bill.

Hillary Clinton collaborated when she voted FOR the USAPATRIOT act.

Hillary Clinton collaborated when she voted FOR the renewal USAPATRIOT act.

Hillary Clinton collaborated when she voted AGAINST an amendment to prevent the use of cluster bombs against civilian populations.

Hillary Clinton collaborated when she voted FOR the Iraq War Resolution.

Hillary Clinton collaborated when she voted FOR the Kyl/Lieberman amendment.


Any questions?

Hell, I was not a Clinton supporter until after Edwards dropped and the anti-Hillary venom spewing made me take another look at her. And go with her instead of Obama.

It's been disgusting. If I were Clinton, I'd take it to the convention *because* of the way Obama supporters, both online and off, have acted. Including his paid staff and his media shills.

and toss your spleen at someone who still cares. You are must be twelve.

It will end when Skinner calls it over. Unfortunately. Until then, the junior high emotional mentalities among us must throw shoes and whine.

she deserves the vitriol she is getting. It's profound disappointment, not hatred.

stop making excuses for it

I objectively dislike her campaign, her top staffers, her campaign's multiple lies, dissembling e-mails, rumors, and worse, and I objectively find her to be a congenital liar, incapable of true leadership unless it involves some personal advantage to her.

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you'll be needing to find somewhere else to post. Read the rules. Enjoy your brief stay and what would you like on your pizza?

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:D

troll is silly.

Not that you are silly, it's just what they want.

:D

Now that that is satisfied, we can move on. Very simple, if you can't support Obama, don't post here.

Look in the mirror

I think you are replying to the wrong post.

:hi:

:grr:

Congratulations. You completely undercut the OPs premise.

:thumbsup:

there is no question which you have been, is there?

Poor lanny, how much does she owe you? Or do you work out of love?

Do you want people to never take you seriously about anything as long as you live?

you're pulling that shit out of your ass.

But the concept of grace escapes her. even her own supporters are turning on her this morning for her inability to concede and congratulate Obama on his nomination.

she could have congratulated Obama on winning the Democratic nomination for President of the United States and pledged to do everything in her power to get him elected.

Instead she just went on and on with her irrelevant, delusional , insane blathering.

Now stop whining and support the nominee.

and I will wholeheartedly support Obama in the general election.

BTW, you are the one who made the ridiculous statement that there is nothing she could have said to stop the anger. You were wrong. "I concede" would have been enough. But she won't do that because she feels entitled and every day she does more damage to our party and our nominee.

I know the kind of comments that would have been made. There is nothing she could do to appease most of the anti-Hillary people on this site, because I have seen it over and over again. No matter what she says or does, there is always some deep hidden ulterior motive. You attribute motives to her every word that you can't possibly know.

Nice job welcoming someone who's probably been a democrat longer than you've been alive to *your* party.

Nice, condescending job!

to run against Hillary. It was their only chance to split our party. Congratulations you've played right into their hands!

If you don't like Hillary being criticised, then go talk to Hillary and tell her to straighten up her act and not doing things which draw criticism.

Some may hate Hillary--some have even posted they "hate" her--but Hillary has worked very, very hard to earn that hate. She has built the case to hate her brick by brick, storey by storey, and she now has a 20-storey vault which can be filled with the hate she has earned.

during the campaign? Please, I really would like to know the kinds of things that she has done to warrant being call "evil".

conceded

She is not evil for doing that, but this action is the last of many other things she's done that make one wonder if she has good political instincts or she's been blinded

There is that white statement to the USA today

There is more... but facts are stubborn things that many hillary supporters do not acknowledge

She now needs to recoup millions... and one thing that actually made sense as to why she is doing this, made sense

She owes a lot of favors to the mafia (read high powered donors) this may be the last chance in modern US history for big money to have that huge of an influence on the US President... and it is the end of the DLC.

But the DLC will not go away quietly into the night

And at this point what she is doing is manipulation, pure and simple

.....on his nomination - not just a race well run...............

George W Bush has more class than Hillary Clinton. And that's saying something, because Bush has no class.

Since Hillary has used all the other Bush/Rove tactics, and added the bigot-pandering and assassination strategy--YES, SHE IS WORSE THAN BUSH JR.

Why do you insist on spreading lies and propaganda? Is it intentional or are you really that ignorant of the facts?

But I can say I certainly have lost respect for her.

Wait... WHO is delusional, again?

You are.

:hug:

Instead she left the door open to a floor fight at the convention, thus weakening the overall Democratic chances for a fall victory and keeping her supporters at such a frothing state of support that they're not ready to get behind the nominee and won't do so.

A simple concession, congratulation and endorsement of Obama would have been sufficient, and really should have been done. Instead we get one more collective slap in the face.

Let me ask you this, say Hillary had won, and instead of conceding Obama had done what Hillary is now doing, angling either for a floor fight or holding the party hostage for either the President or veep spot. Would you and your other fellow Hillary supporters be in a good mood? No, you'd be lighting up the boards and the internet screaming and raving about the situation. Considering how much crap, including this latest gem from Hillary, I think that Obama and his supporters are being fairly restrained.

Did she say anything like this? Perhaps I missed it.

Tesha

isn't it?? :scared:

:shrug:

the Obama supporters who are the "delusional" ones -- sorry for the cryptic post. :D The denial of some here is just jawdropping to me.

Maybe you should get some therapy.

She could have been gracious to him and his supporters. She could have done so many good things for the party and for herself by beginning the task of uniting democrats for the general election.

She chose not to be gracious.

She should have conceded last night. Instead she decided to fuck up a HUGE day in the history of this country, the first Presidential nomination of an African-American. That was just completely tasteless and classless of her.

Contrast that with the amount of time Obama spent talking about her in his own speech, on "his night". Or even the amount of praise John Edwards gave her in his speech where he endorsed Obama. Why is it that we don't hear similar sentiments from Hillary?

Also having her introduced as the next President of the United States didn't help. Fucking tacky. I'm sorry, but she's earned every ounce of her ire after that bullshit last night.

both here at DU and among decent people pretty much everywhere. She refuses to the right thing and concede, instead amping up her mobs with thinly-veiled threats to take this all the way to the convention. She's playing the 2012 game, and is engendering a good deal of well-deserved disgust and contempt along the way.

:thumbsdown:

And she failed yet again on all counts.

There will be a void left in their lives. BO had it right, there is bitterness but it's in his supporters. My God, you won, why diss on Hillary today? You can't even concentrate on going forward because of your hatred. Nothing Hillary ever does is good enough for you, get on with your 'elect BO campaign' and forget your hate.

...we could get behind the Democratic nominee and train the (metaphorical) guns on McCain.

Until she concedes like she should have last night, we can't get to the important stuff.

Problem is, she refuses to get out of the picture - or admit that this election is no longer about her.

- as

who will the libtards hate after bush leaves? not surprising at all to see that sentiment posted by a clinton supporter.

That would have gone a long way with me. Duh.

I don't hate her, I just want her to come to grips with reality.

but I know her and Bill don't do things like that.

And frankly, I'm a little tired of truth being mistaken for viciousness.

here on democratic underground about Hillary, but apparently you haven't. They, for the most part, haven't been about truth, they have been about being as vicious as possible. Is it truth to say you think she should have conceded? Well, maybe. But apparently that can't be done without the name-calling.

I don't particulary like the fact that Obama pimped the Kennedy statement, but you won't here me calling him names because of it. I just simply state that this goes on with both side of a campaign, and I don't like it by either side. But that kind of thinking no longer exists here. It's always the shirts and the skins. Your side can do no wrong and the other side can do no right.

Reread the press reports. His campaign adviser said immediately that it had no place in the campaign, and reports said he was privately angry. But in no way did he push the extreme interpretation of that silly, politically suicidal comment by Hillary Clinton. I'd challenge you to show where Obama personally or his campaign pushed hard on that comment, but that's not possible because it didn't happen.

Which was just more of the same.

most people here don't share it.
And not everyone who criticizes her, "hates" her. Most are just upset and extremely disappointed.
She has been losing this election for months now -- in fact, there was never a point where she was ahead -- and now that Obama has the number of delegates he needs to win, she still won't admit she's lost.
Instead of allowing Obama his "moment of glory," she did everything she could to make it about her.

She can fade into obscurity forever, for all I care.
I know she has many ardent, loyal supporters, but she doesn't deserve them. She has deluded them into thinking that she cares about them. Nothing can convince me anymore that she cares about anything but herself.

:grr: :nuke:

'Megalomaniac' by Incubus.

I hear you on the radio
You permeate my screen, it's unkind but
If I met you in a scissor fight
I'd cut off both your wings on principle alone
On principle alone

Hey megalomaniac
You're not Jesus
Yeah, you're no fucking Elvis
Special, as you know yourself, maniac
Step down
Step down

If I were your appendages
I'd hold open your eyes
So you would see
That all of us are heaven sent
There was never meant to be only one
To be only one

Hey megalomaniac
You're not Jesus
Yeah, you're no fucking Elvis
Special, as you know yourself, maniac
Step down
Step down

Yeah
You're no Jesus
You're not Elvis
...
You're no answer

Hey megalomaniac
You're not Jesus
Yeah, you're no fucking Elvis
Special, as you know yourself, maniac
Step down

---

- as

but there is a lot she could have said. Like congrats and now lets get behind OUR nominee.

I also don't see the anger here as delusional.

You've been around for several years, so either you're being facetious or you're flat out lying. You know damned well the kind of absolute contempt that * is held to on this board.

Besides, Hillary could have conceded last night. She could have congratulated Obama for his success, and announced that she would work to get him elected. That's what candidates usually do once they know they've lost.

I guarantee you that if she had done so last night, the reaction would be far better than what you're seeing now. What you're seeing is a reaction to someone who still refuses to acknowledge reality. And she is now practically demanding to be his running mate? The nerve.

So you are correct.

She didn't congratulate Obama. (He did congratulate her)

She didn't concede.

And that's as objective as I can be.

Oh please... Bush has been hated on DU for YEARS and with a lot more aggression.

Quit whining and move on. All y'all... Obama and Clinton peeps... move the fuck on. You are all embarrassing as fucking hell.

by anyone here was only as a response to Hillary's outrageous actions and comments.

"Delusional"? Its delusional to recount dodging sniper fire when in fact you were standing around little children laughing and smiling. Its delusional to think you can still win the nomination over Obama at this point.

I would say Hillary and her steadfast supporters are the one suffering from delusion. I think its really a shame to watch what this woman did to our party all in the name of herself above everything else.

This race is not about her. Imagine if she had won the delegates and Obama refused to concede or endorse her? What would Hillary supporters say?

she gets the fuck off the stage

Anyone promoting the "Hillary haters" meme is a liar, an operative, a traitor, or a really useful idiot. Which is it in your case?

Enough of this garbage.

Would have created a much different response.

"ignore" list along comes a thread inspiring comparisons to Hitler and Nazis!

Is there a limit on the size of ignore lists?

and you're right. she did nothing whatsoever last night that should in any way squelch any criticism of her. this also holds if you meant "quench".

Or at least communicated what was going down. The Obama camp is giving Senator Clinton time to calm down her supporters. If she had come out last night and just said I concede, with all the niceties about Obama and how her supporters should now support him, there would still have been a lot of raw emotions and public displays of extreme displeasure like at the Rules Committee meeting. No one in the Democratic party would have wanted that. Just more fodder for the talking heads. This way, she eases them into the realization so when she finally does concede, hopefully most of that emotion will have been dissipated. After all the Obama campaign needs her supporters, not the other way around.

who voted for him twice...most likely.

I'm no "Hillary Hater" but she could have said, "Congratulations Senator Obama on winning the nomination. Now let's unite and support our Democratic Nominee, Barack Obama!"

Enjoy it while you can, Hillary supporter. Your time is short.

That's what a loyal Democrat would have done.

I once supported her. But regarding last night, not only did she not concede, she jerked the chains of her supporters, misled them, and encouraged them to continue fighting.

To be introduced as the next president of the United States at the same moment you have officially lost is one for the books. What a laughing stock she will always be.

Though he comes in a close second, I've never seen the same level of vitriol towards Bush and Clinton has received.

or be punished.

What would Al Gore do?