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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 03:23 PM
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PLEASE respect our nominee! He chooses the VP nod; Hillary has no right to force him!!
I am so pissed off at what I'm seeing here and elsewhere and how the M$M is treating this issue.

With all due respect, ALL presumptive presidential nominees have been afforded the respect...and have earned that respect...to choose their vice presidential running mates.

The fact that people are trying to force Obama to choose Hillary is absolutely absurd.

Obama is our democratic nominee!! Only he has the right to choose who HE wants to serve as his running mate.

Hillary Clinton doesn't have the authority to force his hand and neither does anyone else.

I firmly believe that the superdelegates will not override Obama's decision to choose whoever he wants. To do so would make Obama weak as their new party leader.

Please show some respect, DUers. He is our nominee and should not have to answer to strong-arming from the Clintons or anyone!!!
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Mezzo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 03:24 PM
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1. yes she does. Now support your candidate.
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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 03:33 PM
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8. He is our presumptive nominee. We all should support him as OUR candidate!
And that includes supporting whomever he chooses, yes, even if it's Hillary! My point is that none of us has the right to FORCE him!!!
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 04:08 PM
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27. Especially, after her continued tacky behavior, she has NO right to DEMAND anything.
She has consistently disrespected him and continues to do so, and so have her supporters. That's why people on DU can't stand anything Hillary. It has nothing to do with sexism.

Thank God he has class.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 03:25 PM
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2. Please respect our nominee and stop bashing Hillary and her supporters!
Following his lead is the best thing to do. To continue in a fight he has already claimed victory over is an insult to him.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 03:28 PM
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Exactly. Continuing a fight...
when we already have a victor, is the worst thing any Democrat could do.
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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 03:36 PM
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12. Who's fighting? All I saying is that Obama is not being given the due
respect that he has earned. He reserves the right to choose his running mate. News is breaking that his aides have been complaining that pressure from the Clinton camp is making the situation worse.

Her strong-arming is hurting him. It's hurting her, her supporters and the Democratic party.

She should be working on trying to heal this party and bring her supporters to the table so that we can start working together.
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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 03:40 PM
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14. This is what I'm talking about...
Apparently Jim Clyburn is being harrassed:

(SC Rep James) Clyburn told FOX News Radio’s "Brian and the Judge" that the callers identified themselves as Hillary Clinton supporters. Clyburn, an African-American and the third ranking House Democrat, said a white intern in his office was so upset by the calls that she had to be consoled by other workers and left the office early.


"We got more vitriolic, nasty phone calls, really racially tinged phone calls in my congressional office, so much so, until one of the interns, a young lady who is not a stranger to politics ... and she is not a black person, she left the office, had to be consoled because of the kinds of phone calls from people who identified themselves as Hillary Clinton supporters," he said.

"I was absolutely shocked, could not believe that this happened. I could understand people saying, ‘Why are you doing this or why would you not support Hillary Clinton?’ but to call me the kinds of names I have not heard since the ’40s and ’50s," he said.

Clyburn said some of the callers threatened to "sabotage this election." He added that he does not think Clinton understands her role in unifying the party.

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/06/04/clyburn-clinton-supporters-flood-office-with-hate-calls/

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Hillary supporters like Hilary Rosen and Gov. Rendell (staunch Clinton surrogate) also stated that "you don't bargin with the nominee!"

Earlier in the day Hilary Rosen made her feelings clear, as a Clinton Supporter and voter:

I will enthusiastically support Barack Obama's campaign. Because I am not a bargaining chip. I am a Democrat.
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 04:12 PM
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28. That's a damned shame. Hillary could have avoided all of this with just a little grace.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 03:41 PM
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16. Bullshit
How rude to Obama to suggest she can even touch him.
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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 03:42 PM
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17. Allow him to consider her on her own merits; not pressure him to do it! n/t
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 03:58 PM
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26. You should show some respect and follow Obama's lead
He's claimed victory. He's clearly a man who will do what he wants to do. To assume anyone can pressure him into anything is insulting! Show some fucking respect to Obama, FCOL!
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 03:52 PM
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24. I agree. There is nothing to fight about...
Obama is the Democratic Nominee. If Hillary does not have it in her to gracefully exit the stage, she needs to be shown her way out. Who knew we would need a bouncer?
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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 03:31 PM
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6. I am NOT bashing his supporters. I am stating that she has no right
to try and force herself on the ticket. Only Obama can offer it to her. That's not your job, my job or anyone else's.

Where in the Constitution does it state that he must give her anything? It does not!!!
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 03:40 PM
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15. Her supporters take this all very personally.
Why would you want to ignore Obama's lead in this issue? It's an insult to him to continue bashing Hillary after he has already claimed victory.

Don't you believe him? Don't you think he knows best?

This is embarrassing... I hope he never sees this bullshit.
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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 03:44 PM
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20. Where have I bashed Hillary? I have not!!!
All I said what that she shouldn't be trying to blackmail her way or manipulate her way onto the ticket. HE CHOOSES THE VP!! NOT HER!! NOT HER SUPPORTERS!!!!!!
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 04:20 PM
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29. You are insulting Obama by not believing in him...
You seem to think he can be strong armed. You seem to think we should still be watching her every move after Obama is leading us to the real fight.
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Lucky 13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 03:49 PM
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22. I don't give a fuck what they take "personally"
I'm tired of Hillary trying to BULLY her way onto HIS TICKET.

It's his decision and his decision alone and NO ONE should be using threats, intimidation, or a hostage-crisis to make him do anything he doesn't want to do.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 03:57 PM
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25. You are so filled with hate you don't see this attitude is an insult to Obama!
We should show our respect for him, and our faith in his leadership, by following his lead.

Jesus it's embarrassing to explain that.
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Lucky 13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 05:10 PM
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30. The standard now is when you hear something you don't like, you call it hate.
I have complete faith in the leadership of Barack Obama, but I take exception to anyone trying to BULLY HIM into anything.
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 03:27 PM
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3. I am in total agreement with you. nt
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hisownpetard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 03:28 PM
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4. Amen and K&R!
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cags Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 03:31 PM
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5. Obama is a public servant...
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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 03:32 PM
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7. And so is Hillary. Your point?
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cags Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 03:37 PM
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13. He doesn't get to just do whatever he wants... He has to consider his status as a public servant.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 03:33 PM
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9. You should show some respect and follow Obama's lead
Instead of continuing the Hillary Hate.

Not to mention the fact that rarely does a candidate get to choose his own running mate... pressure is applied from the top, not the bottom.
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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 08:06 PM
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31. WRONG AGAIN!! Even Hillary's staunches allies don't want her doing what she is doing...
Here:

Rendell Tells Clinton: Don't Try To Bargain For Vice Presidential Spot
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One of Hillary Clinton's biggest supporters, Governor Ed Rendell of Pennsylvania, gave an interview to the television station New York 1, in which he warned Clinton against bargaining for the vice presidential spot:

Pennsylvania Gov. Ed Rendell - one of Hillary Clinton's strongest supporters - today warned her: "There's no bargaining. You don't bargain with the Presidential nominee. Even if you're Hillary Clinton and you have 18 million votes, you don't bargain."

In an exclusive interview with NY1 Political Anchor Dominic Carter, Rendell added that Obama would have to be an "enormously big person" to pick Clinton as his running mate and that Clinton sometimes "couldn't help but upstage" Obama on a joint ticket.

Rendell also said former President Bill Clinton could greatly complicate things if his wife was the Vice Presidential nominee.


Another strong Clinton supporter, Rep. Charles Rangel of New York, is urging to Clinton to publicly clarify how she plans to move forward because she has put her supporters in an awkward position:

One of Hillary Clinton's most loyal backers on Capitol Hill is voicing frustration about the position she has put her supporters in.

In an interview with ABC News, Rep. Charles Rangel said he thinks it is time for Clinton to publicly clarify what she is doing and allow her supporters to switch their allegiance to Barack Obama.

"Unless she has some good reasons-- which I can't think of-- I really think we ought to get on with endorsements (of Obama) and dealing with what we have to deal with... so we can move forward," Rangel said.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 03:34 PM
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10. Now, I've never been the Democratic Nominee for President, but if the first thing I heard...
Was a thinly veiled threat from an also-ran, I don't think I would react in favor of the also-ran.

If you're going to be The Big Cheese, you have to, you know... be The Big Cheese.
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 03:35 PM
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11. MSNBC has been talking about how unseemly and inappropriate this is.
She's almost making it impossible FOR him to pick her. Most people will see this for what it is. Not to worry.
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Lucky 13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 03:43 PM
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18. It is Obama's choice alone.
There are just as many people who believe Hillary would be a BAD choice as there are people who believe her to be a GOOD choice.

He needs to find the right running mate for HIM.
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guruoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 03:44 PM
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19. You're correct. She can't force jack. So what's the point? n/t
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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 03:47 PM
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21. The point is that Hillary and her supporters must stop trying to manipulate
Obama to put her on the ticket. He may want her on the ticket; he may not! But that's his decision and certainly not her crazed supporters!!

That's my point!!
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guruoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 03:49 PM
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23. Never happen. n/t
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