Obama said No to a Hillary VP spot!!! - Democratic Underground

sellitman

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Wed Jun-04-08 06:49 PM
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Obama said No to a Hillary VP spot!!!

yes! Breaking! MSNBC!!

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blonndee

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Wed Jun-04-08 06:50 PM
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1. Partly due to, it looks like, Bill's refusal to release library donation records.

... :wow:

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sellitman

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Wed Jun-04-08 06:52 PM
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7. Convienient huh?

Who cares why? That she is SOL is all we need to know.

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Cha

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Wed Jun-04-08 07:31 PM
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50. So true...All we need to know is..

"she is SOL". End of story. B-) :bounce: :patriot: :kick: :party:

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Binka

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Wed Jun-04-08 06:55 PM
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19. Hoisted On His Own Petard!

The Obama camp had this ace up their sleeve for awhile now. They KNEW Bill wouldn't give up that information IMHO. The Clinton's just got PWNED!

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Stephanie

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Wed Jun-04-08 07:16 PM
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35. While a valid reason, I think that's just the cover story.

I think the subtext is, NO CHANCE IN HELL!

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Cha

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Wed Jun-04-08 07:45 PM
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57. And she's

SOL.

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Catherina

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Wed Jun-04-08 08:56 PM
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67. This being just one small reason

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NightWatcher

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Wed Jun-04-08 06:50 PM
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2. here's the story. Bill was the "deal breaker"

WASHINGTON -- Sen. Hillary Clinton, who refused to concede after Sen. Barack Obama claimed the Democratic presidential nomination Tuesday, will do so Friday, two top advisers said. Close supporters suggested she would like to be his running mate, on a unity ticket.

But close advisers to Sen. Obama signaled an Obama-Clinton ticket was highly unlikely. People in both camps cited what several called "a deal-breaker" -- Bill Clinton may balk at releasing records of his business dealings and big donors to his presidential library.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121262109484746703.html

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Mike L

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Wed Jun-04-08 07:02 PM
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29. smoke screen on Obama's part. em

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Cha

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Wed Jun-04-08 07:59 PM
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61. More Orwellian Speak from Senator clinton..

"Unity Ticket" my Democratic :kick: :bounce: :patriot: :party:

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Doityourself

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Wed Jun-04-08 06:51 PM
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3. Billys refusal to open up his records...must ber some shady shit in there...man

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livetohike

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Wed Jun-04-08 06:52 PM
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9. If there was nothing to hide, why not do it?

:shrug: It must be pretty bad though, I agree.

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MonkeyFunk

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Wed Jun-04-08 08:28 PM
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65. Because it's not his info to give

people donated to the library with the expectation of privacy. you can't change the rules after the fact and change that.

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BlooInBloo

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Wed Jun-04-08 06:53 PM
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13. I wouldn't go that far. It could just be a promised confidentiality, or...

something that isn't bad or wrong, but would be spun by republicans. Concluding that there's something wrong isn't justified.

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roguevalley

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Wed Jun-04-08 06:59 PM
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27. it has to be something contrary to his public image, such as taking

donations from our enemies in the Middle East such as the countries that paid for Osama.

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JuniperLea

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Wed Jun-04-08 07:28 PM
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46. Oh jeez! THIS is how rumors start...

:eyes:

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roguevalley

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Wed Jun-04-08 07:55 PM
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58. read the papers. his friends and business companions are there

and well known, some of them the sleaziest nastiest weirdos in the world. if they weren't, he would disclose.

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JuniperLea

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Wed Jun-04-08 07:58 PM
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59. Yeah, we all know how reliable "the papers" are these days... eom

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Doityourself

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Wed Jun-04-08 06:59 PM
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28. Well, how bad does he want his wife to be VP, and how bad does she want it?

Edited on Wed Jun-04-08 07:00 PM by Doityourself

I think it should all be public...he's living off my dime too, is he not?

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JuniperLea

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Wed Jun-04-08 07:27 PM
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45. Exactly

He is starting a rich boy's club... much like The Carlyle Group or Thomas H. Lee Partners... I used to work for someone who belonged to BOTH of those investment deals, and I had to sign a non-disclosure agreement that will follow me to my grave. The SEC keeps close tabs on such organizations.

Another angle I've thought of is the fact that Mrs. McCain has refused to disclose her finances too... perhaps Bill wanted to use that as leverage?

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ayeshahaqqiqa

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Wed Jun-04-08 06:57 PM
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23. I've wondered about that

I know that events that were to be open to the public at the library were not--only Clinton cronies were invited, and others who even asked about the event were stonewalled and told that the library knew nothing about it.

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Recursion

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Wed Jun-04-08 06:58 PM
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25. That was the big joke about the "vetted" claim

A whole lot of us never believed the Clintons would ever allow the kind of vetting a serious candidate in this day and age needs. They're still playing by 1992 rules.

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LibraLiz1973

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Wed Jun-04-08 06:51 PM
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4. I'm watching MSNBC and not seeing that??

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Doityourself

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Wed Jun-04-08 06:52 PM
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8. They are discussing it...bill ain't interested in releasing his records..

He's the deal breaker, looks like.

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mtnsnake

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Wed Jun-04-08 06:51 PM
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5. Thank God. I would hate to see her get that spot & take blame for anything that goes wrong

Please let this be true!

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Lerkfish

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Wed Jun-04-08 06:54 PM
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15. we finally agree, albeit for differing reasons

but I'll take the agreement.

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mtnsnake

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Wed Jun-04-08 06:55 PM
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21. common ground, nothing like it

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Mushroom

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Wed Jun-04-08 08:47 PM
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66. I'm with you mtnsnake

Please let this be true! Hillary would have been blamed for Barack's crooked tie in that VP position - what a stifling situation. Whew, when I read the OP I breathed a sigh of relief.

Thank God!

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WA98296

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Wed Jun-04-08 06:52 PM
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6. Said "highly unlikely" wasn't it? Anyway, does that mean we can NOW breathe?

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hedgehog

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Wed Jun-04-08 06:53 PM
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10. Wow! DU is really moving up in the world!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x6272587

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polichick

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Wed Jun-04-08 06:53 PM
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11. I think it's a face-saving way for them to tell her no.

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sellitman

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Wed Jun-04-08 07:08 PM
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31. I agree.

Thankfully it doesn't matter.

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polichick

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Wed Jun-04-08 07:09 PM
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32. I am sooooooo relieved!

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Stephanie

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Wed Jun-04-08 07:19 PM
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36. I think you're correct

Although the fact is his business dealings are a TREASURE TROVE for the McCain camp to rifle through, still I think it was mostly just a gentle way of letting her down, and allowing her to blame Bill instead of her own noxious behavior.

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polichick

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Wed Jun-04-08 07:34 PM
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52. I like it a lot better than the idea of Barack offering her the job...

...trusting that she'd keep her word and say no. Yikes!

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succubus.blues

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Wed Jun-04-08 07:58 PM
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60. I agree as well

and am so relieved she won't be on the ticket.

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Sensitivity

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Wed Jun-04-08 06:53 PM
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12. This is not OBAMA saying it. Campaign "advisors" do not equate to Obama

Edited on Wed Jun-04-08 06:54 PM by Sensitivity

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Stephanie

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Wed Jun-04-08 07:20 PM
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38. Yes they do.

His campaign is letting the decision be known, certainly at his direction.

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writes3000

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Wed Jun-04-08 06:53 PM
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14. A Warning O-Supporters: Don't count your chickens...

This is about resetting expectations.

Obama and his team are going to find the best VP candidate. They may come to realize it will be Hillary Clinton.

Today's answer is not absolute.

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Hansel

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Wed Jun-04-08 08:25 PM
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63. Not going to happen.

Obama is going to be the president and is not going to cede that to anyone. He does not need a former president in the VP slot, which is basically what will happen. The Clintons have already made it clear that they don't believe he is up to the job and they will not be able to resist the urge to undermine his authority (thinking they are doing what's best, of course).

Obama is simply not going to put himself in this position. He's too smart for that.

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w13rd0

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Wed Jun-04-08 06:54 PM
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16. Perhaps in the end...

...what does it say about Bill Clinton, that he'll sacrifice the party to get his wife the nomination, to secure jobs for himself and his loyalists...but he won't open his books?

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goldcanyonaz

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Wed Jun-04-08 06:54 PM
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17. I don't think she wants it, because that does not make sense

Edited on Wed Jun-04-08 06:56 PM by goldcanyonaz

She would have never run if there was some huge hoopla about donors

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Hart2008

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Wed Jun-04-08 06:55 PM
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18. So now if Hillary doesn't get the VP nomination, it's now Bill's fault!

Beautiful!

Well played!

Bravo!

Bravisimo!

:rofl:

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Lerkfish

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Wed Jun-04-08 06:57 PM
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24. actually, this might not be a play at all

Bill's "speaking fees" involve many foreign interests that would be embarrassing to have to explain openly during a GE campaign.

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Hart2008

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Wed Jun-04-08 07:04 PM
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30. Now all the Hillbots have only Bill to blame that she doesn't get the VP slot!

They can't blame Obama.

It all comes back to the point about Hillary always riding Bill's coattails.

If only she was her own candidate....

Ohhh!

The irony here!

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BlooInBloo

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Wed Jun-04-08 06:55 PM
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20. WOOT!!! I win the bet! I win the bet!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=5996112#5996435

:rofl:

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blonndee

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Wed Jun-04-08 07:19 PM
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37. You linked to grovelbot?

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BlooInBloo

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Wed Jun-04-08 07:28 PM
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47. ?

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blonndee

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Wed Jun-04-08 07:34 PM
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51. Hee...your link took me to a grovebot post.

I had to scroll down to figure out what you were talking about. Props to you. Somebody owes you a star.

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BlooInBloo

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Wed Jun-04-08 07:36 PM
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53. Ooh - no, not me. Some star-less DUer.

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JackORoses

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Wed Jun-04-08 06:56 PM
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22. This is the news I have been waiting to hear.

I can feel a weight lifting off my shoulders.

John McCain, your ass is grass,
and Obama's the Lawnmower.

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OhioChick

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Wed Jun-04-08 06:58 PM
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26. Good. n/t

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Mme. Defarge

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Wed Jun-04-08 07:12 PM
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33. I want it to be OFFICIAL! n/t

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harun

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Wed Jun-04-08 07:23 PM
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40. Yah I don't believe any reports this time. Not until I see about

five reports on it and 24 hours have passed will I believe any of it.

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TeamJordan23

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Wed Jun-04-08 07:13 PM
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34. She would not pass the vetting process. nm

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Hart2008

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Wed Jun-04-08 07:24 PM
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41. Not without getting a divorce, but she still has time....n/t

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WA98296

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Wed Jun-04-08 07:22 PM
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39. Happy to K&R

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cynatnite

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Wed Jun-04-08 07:24 PM
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42. Hmm..have not seen that at all on MSNBC n/t

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InAbLuEsTaTe

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Wed Jun-04-08 07:26 PM
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43. Tell it's definite! The beer's on me.

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itsrobert

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Wed Jun-04-08 07:27 PM
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44. Link?

Nothing on MSNBC.com.

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Erin Elizabeth

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Wed Jun-04-08 07:29 PM
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48. THANK YOU GOD.

Now I get to say I told you so to everyone who talked about her getting the VP slot. It didn't happen and furthermore it WASN'T EVER GOING TO HAPPEN.

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Cha

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Wed Jun-04-08 07:30 PM
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49. You wouldn't be kidding me, woulda ya?!!

'Cause if this is true..It's almost as happy as Obama is our NOM!!

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sellitman

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Wed Jun-04-08 08:06 PM
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62. They have been talking about it on MSNBC.

It's true!

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mudesi

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Wed Jun-04-08 07:36 PM
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54. This day just keeps getting better and better (nm)

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dailykoff

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Wed Jun-04-08 07:37 PM
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55. Okay so now she's lying in the bathtub and she looks dead.

But is she?

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Snarkoleptic

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Wed Jun-04-08 07:43 PM
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56. Sadly, she can be expected to lurch back into gear like Jason in "Halloween".

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Liberal_Stalwart71

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Wed Jun-04-08 08:26 PM
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64. YES!!!!! GOD IS GOOD!!!!

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Catherina

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Wed Jun-04-08 08:59 PM
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68. She was delusional to expect any such thing. You pick a VP you trust

and feel comfortable working with. She wouldn't have picked him either so his answer shouldn't be a surprise.

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progetto

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Wed Jun-04-08 09:01 PM
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69. The right decision. Bill & Hillary wouldn't work out as co-VP.

He'd regret it for the next 4 years.

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