Hillary became the Poster Child for marriage/relationships gone wrong, turning rage into Hope...

I'm convinced after talking to some lobbiest pals, my mother-in-law and watching the crowds that Hillary's campaign became a Chance for some Wronged Women, more likely older ones, to potentially divert their Impotent Rage into Hope, into a direction which would empower them after they'd been left High and Dry by someone in their past or present relationships.

Maybe a husband who pays them no mind anymore, or has cheated, or IS cheating on them, or they feel invisible, unwanted in a culture and society that leaves them out, one that's all about being Young, a Hardbody, a private Club where the Mimbos all lust after Chickie Babes and push middle-aged women out of the way.

Maybe some have a relationship held together with chewing gum and coat hangers, and want to identify with her, that she kept her Marriage Intact despite a younger woman "stealing" her husband. They consider Hillary beautiful and vivacious while they don't feel that way about themselves, she's a fighter while Society has Crushed them, their hopes, dreams, aspirations.

My mother-in-law figures that Hillary has EARNED the Presidency because of all she's been through, to her its as simple as that..

But to Obama folks its not so simple, they figure HE'S Earned it, student loans, foodstamps, long nights of studying, fighting on the mean streets of the South Side of Chicago, and still positive, and some figure Hillary is Positive too, something we all need.

Maybe Obama folks see him as Young and Hip with an eye for the Future, and maybe they think that Hillary AND McCain are Both Too Old in their own ways, old politics, which Clinton supporters rankle about, and insist SHE has Experience, if nothing else for having lived so much longer, HE'S just a KID, how can HE have any real Experience?

And I think as we defend our candidates each, and after she's lost and the wounds are fresh, we might stop and consider WHY the other side might FEEL like they DO..

Such ignorant crap dependent upon stereo-types and personal anecdotes.

It's possible to prefer her policy prescriptions. Really, it is.

Fail.

it's as simple as that

cultural touchstones for people and their candidate selection. I've often thought this myself, simply because the viscral nature of the support has been way too personal and intense. Not the best reasons for choosing a candidate, but an understandable one.

But hey...I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night.

There are many factors, archetypes & Symbolism at work here, like you said, such a visceral, intensity makes one wonder..

She's lost and will be conceding. There is no point to this despite that it's premise is utterly ridiculous.

Our energy is better spent working to get Obama in the WH.

That lack of respect for generations of women, Black & White, who toiled to make her dreams possible is what won't let this episode pass quietly.

And don't look at me personally ... I'm the exception. I've settled my discrimination case against Computer Factory to my satisfaction ... didn't even sue NYC, though the record is clear ... how could I, when I worked @ FDNY instead?

But HRC earned her place by the choices she made to serve the public ... not what happened to her. Your lack of understanding is sad, but this is still silly season.

I have listened to some of her speeches and find that she is an intelligent person not at all what is defined by one sentence soundbites taken out of context. Beyond that I know 2 people who have "met" her as one of the other moms taking a preschooler to a dance class back in 2004. They first met her before the Senate run, much less the Presidential one. The very tangential nature of the situation in fact makes it more real - this was not someone meeting people in the role of getting a husband elected - it was someone living her normal life before that life became extraordinary. The two women both though her friendly and down to earth. (They actually met Obama as well - and in fact, from one cute story they know one Obama failing at least as of 4 years ago - his little daughter found his ability to put her hair up for ballet inadequate. He though, showing the same sense he shows on other issues, sought assistant from parents who had the expertise needed - ending up with good hair.)

direction. I would love to stop seeing new news for ways to allow Blackwater, and the oil war to continue. I want our Democratic Candidate to assure us that our future is one that will direct us toward a balanced desire to prosper and the need to be powerful. I want the victims of Katrina who are still homeless to be given attention. I know that our Democratic leaders have been wrong on so many fronts in allowing these rulers to continue. I don't want this to continue.

Wronged Women and old women voted for Hillary to potentially divert their Impotent Rage into Hope. :sarcasm: I can only laugh at you.

The presidency isn't about rewarding the individual who gets it, it's about what the president will do for the country. Hell, what kind of reward was the presidency for JFK? Not only that, but if you look at the power and financial rewards that do come to some presidents, be realistic - did Bill Clinton really work hard enough to earn $109 million? He worked hard, but I worked hard too and I don't have $1 million. Did George H.W. Bush work hard enough to earn the probably close to a $1 Billion he has now? That is, the equivalent of 1 years pay for 30,000 workers? That's like having pyramids built for you. He surely worked hard, like his choices or not, but these rewards are beside the point. They don't relate to what the person deserves. And no person deserves to have power over all the things the president has power over, anyone who thinks they do is a dictator in the making. The only reason the president should have power over these things is that it's necessary for the government to operate effectively - that's why the framers of the constitution even decided to have a president.

The country does not serve the president, the president serves the country. We should not think about in terms of who we would have a beer with, whose face we would like to wipe that smile off of, or anything like that. Just who will do the best job (or in the primaries, who will first win the GE then do the best job).