These were never Clinton supporters. They are anti-Obama.

Now is the time to start coming together. But as we've all seen it is hard. More time likely will help supporters of both opponents come back under the Democratic tent... to fall in line as was once said. There are at least 1% that seem to make life hell for those seeking 'unity' and I've been trying to make sense of it.

After perusing through the filthy boards at hillaryclintonforum.net and hillaryis44.org I've noticed that these people were using Hillary as their vehicle to hate Obama. Look at the threads on this site. There is one thread, with many positive replies, stating they WOULD NOT vote a ticket with Hillary as VP. Why? Because Obama was on it.

These people may have started out as Hillary backers, but after months of rolling around in filth, praising lies and innuendo against Obama, they came to finally believe it. These people honestly believe Obama is an evil, evil man, akin to Satan. They hate him so much that supporting Hillary is no longer even in the forefront of their minds. These 'Hillary' supporters are anti-Obama hate voters wrapping themselves in a Hillary flag.

These voters do no good for true Hillary supporters, Obama, or the Democratic party. Most are lost. You can see it in their virtual eyes.

How many anti-Clinton, anti-Clinton supporter threads do we need?

Couldn't we at least consolidate the negative finger pointing stuff to a few threads?

The hate on both sides is feeding off of each other.

Look at every anti-Hillary post on the boards today. They were fomented by exactly the same types of anti-Obama backers I was talking about. The "no other women as VP" posts for example. That quote was pulled from a person more interested in Obama's downfall then Hillary. We need to make a distinction quickly between these anti-Obama 'Hillary' backers and true, good, democratic 'Hillary' supporters or the divisions among us will widen.

as the OP was not an anti-Clinton supporter post. It was an anti-Obama hater post. I don't believe Clinton supporters are Obama haters - at least the great majority are not.

I just cannot believe that I'm coming to this site and still seeing post after post dominated by Clinton talk. Even if it's talk about other childish sites that claim to be for her.

Of course, they're melting down. Most of them will get over it and move on.

Why don't you just stop bothering people who are having conversations you don't like, and we'll all be happier? Or do you really think that Kindergarten teacher like chiding of yours actually changes anyone's mind? What next "inside voice, kids, inside voice!"?

Gee, I thought we had a fantastic Democratic nominee now. I thought Obama won the nomination. I thought we were going to focus on getting votes to win the White House.

Silly me. No, on second thought, silly you.

No, you've got to come into a thread that is complaining and wag that finger of yours.

If you don't like to see these threads, use your hide thread. No one except other finger waggers wants to see your finger wagging.

You are severely delusional if you think they are 1. Good supporters 2. More likely to post anti-Hillary posts.

It's got Clinton in the subject line and I realize that's a touchy subject right now, but I don't think in any way that I was disparaging good Hillary supporters. I just pointed out that the squeakiest of wheels are voting against Obama (the McCain voters) may not have been in it for Hillary in the first place.

Not at all. I was talking about the situation at DU in general.

change registration and vote Ron Paul.

No one knows who these people are. They could be republicans impersonating democrats on a website. The democrats never had these votes.

The messaging on some of these sites, anti-democratic messaging, is classic Republican. They've found a wedge and are more than happy to continue widening it.

If anyone thinks otherwise, don't forget how he helped get Bush into office.

Anti-Obama people are not Democrats nor are they worth fretting over. Good riddance.

Anti-Clinton people are not Democrats. If you look at it from the other point of view.

What you are saying, essentially, is that Barack Obama is the Democratic Party.

Steve

But, I will do everything I can to get Obama into the white house as our next president. I believe he will do great wonders for this nation and its people. Other nations are stopping and looking at what just happened in the US. They will be rethinking their attitudes towards us, and seeing that we can select an African American for our nominee for President of the US means that we can turn this rudderless ship of a nation around and become a shining example of Democracy again!

I just hope we can start to come together here, ignoring the most ardent anti-Obama backers, and start working to defeat McCain and the bankrupt Republican party he leads.

I wasn't a Clinton supporter because I was in love with her. I was a Clinton supporter because I don't like Obama, and didn't from early on. I won't get into why, but you are half right. Where you are wrong is this: I didn't start opposing Obama because I first supported Clinton and got carried away with my rhetoric. I started opposing Obama because of what I saw in him and his actions (I won't bore you with facts, I've been there, and there's a blind spot a mile wide in Obama supporters, and it's pointless now, anyway). I began supporting Clinton because she was the only Obama opponent left by my primary. She wasn't my first, or second, choice (nor was Edwards).

I don't like Obama. My instincts, my historical training in observing facts objectively, my experience in politics as an insider and an outside observer, and everything in my life experiences tells me this isn't a good man, or a good candidate. I hope I'm wrong, at this point. But I came to those conclusions before I chose any other candidate, not because of any other candidate.

I don't fit any of the delusions or stereotypes I keep seeing Obama supporters trying to apply to those who don't like him. There may be some who do fit those images, but many I've seen are smart, open-minded, knowledgeable, and good people, and we see things in this man that his supporters clearly don't. And we feel more objective, because we can see your point, but you can't see ours, or our evidence (as I know from posting tons of irrefutable evidence and having dismissed by people who don't even understand the issues).

Now, you've got two choices from this point on. You can keep posting the Clinton bashing crap (ironically, proving that your candidate and his supporters are not as honorable as they pretend) and thus keep this shit going and going and going until it hurts the party. Or you can swallow your pop-psychology and your misinformed stereotypes and not say anything more about Clinton, in which case Clinton supporters will have no reason to speak up anymore. After all, from this point on the only reasons to trash Obama are either to support McCain, in which case the poster would be tombstoned, or to defend Clinton from attacks from Obama supporters.

In short, if y'all shut up, it will go away.

Your choice. Be the change you pretend you want, or just keep on with the hating and let's through eggs at McCain's inauguration. I'm tired of eggs.

it seems to me you are prejudiced by certain non-objective beliefs.

beliefs that are based on your perception of Obama, not necessarily any reality about him.

If you said what he has said or done that irks you, I would be inclined to sympathize with your point of view, but after reading many of your posts so far, I have yet to see anything concrete to explain why you feel as you do.

"My instincts, my historical training in observing facts objectively, my experience in politics as an insider and an outside observer, and everything in my life experiences tells me this isn't a good man...."

Actually, come to think of it, isn't that the DEFINITION of prejudice? :shrug:

There's a whole lot of nothing in this post.

desk. When we raise our heads in ten minutes, we are going to talk about the positives of this primary season. We all know that Senator Obama is now the presumptive nominee of the Democrat party and we have many positive things we each can say about him. I also want us to focus on Senator Clinton and all of her many positives. So in ten minutes, please be prepared to share your positives about both candidates.</kindergarten teacher>

Obama is a stand-alone brand. He's not for everyone.

Some Clinton supporters won't go for Obama. So what, I say.

Obama is my dream candidate. I haven't felt this politically giddy
since Howard Dean ran. However, I don't expect everyone else to feel
the same, and certainly not all Democrats will fall in line.

It's not that big of a deal.

You want as many supporters as possible. However, we don't need to
kow tow to people who aren't going to "get" Obama.

I tell ya, there are plenty of disenfranchised Republicans who "get"
Obama. They're excited about Obama and they've left the Republican
party because they're so on-board with Obama. Many Independents
feel the same way about Obama.

I'm not afraid of breaking the political mold that has been the Democratic
party--and the Republican party-- for far so long. Maybe it's time for some
real change, with Obama leading the way.

America is headed down an amazing path with Barack Obama. It's going to be
promising, uplifting and revolutionary. Some won't be on board, but I think
we need to let those people go and press forward with the millions of other
voters who will be along for this unprecedented, remarkable and historical
journey.