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Willo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 08:07 PM
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In all fairness...
I blew up on DerekJ's thread a few days ago, saying how I wasn't done being pissed yet.

Ironically, that seemed to be my last bit of steam. I was no longer pissed with desire to post about her. Thanks a lot DerekJ for wasting my last rant.

Waiting for Hillary to speak, I hoping she would not blow it and at least not say something to get me riled up again. As I've said on other threads, she gave a very good speech that was much better than expected. I started removing people from my ignore list but stopped when I remembered what specifically earned each their spot.

The tone of my posts were changing. I was becoming sad and then angry so I left to diffuse it, understand it and get perspective. Now I'm good to go but here's the deal, hopefully it will matter to a few of you.

Hillary blew it for Obama's supporters on Tuesday night. In my mind is that photo of Barack and Michelle watching Hillary deliver her speech. That picture hurts me deeply, still. I saw one post and no threads that acknowledged or empathized with Obama, his family or his supporters on that night. We had to celebrate...in spite of.

Today, we are praising Hillary for what she should have done earlier. Now, many of you are not only dismissing our feelings (feelings that was seldom acknowledged as valid in the first place), but EXPECTING US to dismiss our own and praise all that is Hillary. How ironic that so many months should be cleansed away by a speech.

Unity is fast becoming a word of no meaning here. I would like to chat and get to know many of you. I look forward to learning from you here. Getting Obama elected instead of McCain and building the Party's strength are uniting projects we can work on, in most any state of mind. Unity, on the other hand, is harmony with each other, born of respecting each other, born of understanding each other.

Submitted in peace.








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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 08:11 PM
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1. And I disagree.
She gave a speech that I thought was extraordinary. She gave a solid endorsement of Barack Obama that enormously unified our party today.

Personally, and this is just me, I don't care about when she delivered her speech or her being late or whatever. She gave a great, great speech and I am enormously proud of her.

Again, this is just me.
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Willo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 08:15 PM
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3. Thanks for your honesty terrya. A speech is not unifying.
It is a call to unify. For each to do the work. Not caring stifles what her speech implies.
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 08:14 PM
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2. Some of "us" are sick and tired of reading every friggin' justification known to man
for hating Sen. Hillary Clinton. Your submission in peace sounds like another exercise in pissiness.

Either candidate for me was fine. Sorry you can't see it that way but the fact is, few give a damn anymore.
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Willo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 08:32 PM
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6. Unfortunately, you missed by point entirely nt
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 08:47 PM
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7. Likewise I'm sure.
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 08:19 PM
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4. you expect me to have sympathy for OBAMA??? when he knew he had it sewn up?
you can't find a shred of human decency to understand the woman campaigned her heart out and needed a couple days to decompress, regroup and think???

she did exactly what she needed to do today, and she was right on time. She let the dust settle, let *her* people get a little distance, and then she called for us all to do the right thing.

Maybe you should try it.
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Willo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 08:31 PM
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5. I don't expect sympathy from you or anyone for Obama having won.
What I asked for empathy or as you put it the "human decency to understand." Not for Obama but for his supporters. The other half of the whole we're supposed to be making.

She did what was right for her. In that you are correct.

Perhaps all she said was vote for Barack. That is the right thing to do and doesn't require unity.
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crankychatter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 08:51 PM
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8. silence is unity but only if it's silence from Obama supporters
they're battering the hell out of every thread

this is an effort to silence opposition to her VP status or Convention coups

thankfully there are many means of communication and we have the campaign itself, in our own communities to lean on
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Willo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 09:12 PM
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9. What I see is that the bar for Hillary is set quite low.
Edited on Sat Jun-07-08 09:13 PM by WIllo
While the bar for Barack is set very high.

It has been that way throughout the primary season.
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