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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 09:39 AM
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omg! Here's a big "fuck-you" to rwing email "spammers" ...NO MORE!!!! Awesome response!!
Edited on Sun Jun-08-08 10:13 AM by Blue_Roses
This is an update post from an email:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=6309537

I got from my fundie brother-in-law spouting off that Barack Obama was a "clown" for not putting his hand over his heart for the national anthem and ridiculing his middle name, "Hussein". While I get a lot of these "spam" emails from him, this one really hit a nerve. I wanted to fire off a "fuck-you idiot," however, this would only start a bigger riff between us and it wouldn't do anything to help educate him on his ignorance.

But this morning, I received a response from one of those who was "spammed" by this too. It was one of the best responses to this type of crap and I wanted to share it with you. For those like me who need help coming up with the right words for these "clowns" this is definitely a keeper!

Here it is:

"clown" & "Hussein" ?
Shameful Shameful,
This man is my friend, please take me off of these type of list.

Also, FYI Only as a way of helping read the following and be even more
..informed:




At Cincinnati, Bill Cunningham, according to the LAT, who "introduced
presidential candidate John McCain at a rally here today accused
Barack Obama of sympathizing with 'world leaders who want to kill us'
and invoked Obama's middle name -- three times calling him 'Barack
Hussein Obama.' " John McCain repudiated Cunningham's low tactics and
said that using the middle name like that three times was
"inappropriate" and would never happen again at one of his rallies.

I want to say something about Barack Hussein Obama's name. It is a
name to be proud of. It is an American name. It is a blessed name. It
is a heroic name, as heroic and American in its own way as the name of
General Omar Nelson Bradley or the name of Benjamin Franklin. And
denigrating that name is a form of racial and religious bigotry of the
most vile and debased sort. It is a prejudice against names deriving
from Semitic languages!

Christian, Western heroes have often been bequeathed Middle Eastern
names. Rodrigo Diaz de Vivar, the medieval Spanish hero, carried the
name El Cid, from the Arabic al-Sayyid, "the lord."

Barack and Hussein are Semitic words. Americans have been named with
Semitic names since the founding of the Republic. Fourteen of our 43
presidents have had Semitic names (see below). And, American English
contains many Arabic-derived words that we use every day and without
which we would be much impoverished. America is a world civilization
with a world heritage, something Cunninghamism will never understand.

Barack is a Semitic word meaning "to bless" as a verb or "blessing" as
a noun. In its Hebrew form, barak, it is found all through the Bible.
It first occurs in Genesis 1:22: "And God blessed them, saying, Be
fruitful, and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let fowl
multiply in the earth."

Here is a list of how many times barak appears in each book of the Bible.

Now let us take the name "Hussein." It is from the Semitic word,
hasan, meaning "good" or "handsome." Husayn is the diminutive,
affectionate form.

Barack Obama's middle name is in honor of his grandfather, Hussein, a
secular resident of Nairobi. Americans may think of Saddam Hussein
when they hear the name, but that is like thinking of Stalin when you
hear the name Joseph. There have been lots of Husseins in history,
from the grandson of the Prophet Muhammad, a hero who touched the
historian Gibbon, to King Hussein of Jordan, one of America's most
steadfast allies in the 20th century. The author of the beloved
American novel, The Kite Runner, is Khaled Hosseini.

But in Obama's case, it is just a reference to his grandfather.

It is worth pointing out that John McCain's adopted daughter, Bridget,
is originally from Bangladesh. Since Hussein is a very common name in
Bangladesh, it is entirely possible that her birth father or
grandfather was named Hussein. McCain certainly has Muslim relatives
via adoption in his family. If Muslim relatives are a disqualification
from high office in the United States, then McCain himself is in
trouble. In fact, since Bridget is upset that George W. Bush doesn't
like her "because she is black," and used her to stop the McCain
campaign in South Carolina in 2000, you understand why McCain would be
especially sensitive to race-baiting of Cunningham's sort. The
question is how vigorously he will combat it; he hasn't been above
Muslim-taunting in the campaign so far. (And, the McCains really
should let Bridget know that she is Asian, not "black." The poor girl;
Bush and Rove have done a number on her, and Cindy's confusion can't
help.)

The other thing to say about grandfathers named Hussein is that very
large numbers of African-Americans probably have an ancestor ten or
eleven generations ago with that name, in what is now Mali or Senegal
or Nigeria. And, since so many thousands of Arab Muslims were made to
convert to Catholicism in Spain after 1501, many Latinos have distant
ancestors named Hussein, too. In fact, since there was a lot of
Arab-Spanish intermarriage, and since there was subsequent Spanish
intermarriage with other European Catholics, more European Americans
are descended from a Hussein than they realize. The British royal
family is quite forthright about the Arab line in their ancestry going
back to Andalusia.

Obama, being a cousin of Dick Cheney on one side and having relatives
in Kenya on the other, is just more and more typical of the 21st
century United States.

So, anyway, Obama's first two names mean "Blessing, the Good." If we
are lucky enough to get him for president, we can only hope that his
names are prophetic for us.

Which brings me to Omar Bradley. Omar is an alternative spelling of
Umar, i.e. Umar ibn al-Khattab, the second caliph of Sunni Islam.
Presumably General Bradley was named for the poet Omar Khayyam, who
bore the caliph's name. Omar Khayyam's Rubaiyat, in the "translation"
of Edward FitzGerald, became enormously popular in Victorian America.

Gen. Omar Bradley, who bore a Semitic, Muslim first name, and shared
it with the second Caliph of Sunni Islam, was the hero of D-Day and
Normandy, of the Battle of the Bulge and the Ruhr.

Would Mr. Cunningham see Omar Bradley as un-American, as an enemy
because of his name?

What about other American heroes, such as Gen. George Joulwan, former
NATO Supreme Allied Commander of Europe? "Joulwan" is an Arabic name.
Or there is Gen. John Abizaid, former CENTCOM commander. Abizaid is an
Arabic name. Abi means Abu or "father of," and Zaid is a common Arab
first name. Is Cunningham good enough to wipe their shoes? Is he going
to call them traitors because they have Arabic names?

What about Congressman Darrell Issa of California? ("`Isa" means Jesus
in Arabic). Former cabinet secretary Donna Shalala? (Shalala means
"waterfall" in Arabic).

I won't go into all the great Americans with Arabic names in sports,
entertainment and business, against whom Cunningham would apparently
discriminate on that basis. Does he want to take citizenship away from
Kareem Abdul Jabbar and
Ahmad Jamal ? What about Rihanna
<"sweet basil," "aromatic">? Tony Shalhoub ?

Let us take Benjamin Franklin. His first name is from the Hebrew Bin
Yamin, the son of the Right (hand), or son of strength, or the son of
the South (yamin or right has lots of connotations). The "Bin" means
"son of," just as in modern colloquial Arabic. Bin Yamin Franklin is
not a dishonorable name because of its Semitic root. By the way, there
are lots of Muslims named Bin Yamin.

As for an American president bearing a name derived from a Semitic
language, that is hardly unprecedented.

John Adams really only had Semitic names. His first name is from the
Hebrew Yochanan, or gift of God, which became Johan and then John. (In
German and in medieval English, "y" is represented by "j" but was
originally pronounced "y".) Adams is from the biblical Adam, which
also just means "human being." In Arabic, one way of saying "human
being" is "Bani Adam," the children of men.

Thomas Jefferson's first name is from the Aramaic Tuma, meaning
"twin." Aramaic is a Semitic language spoken by Jesus, which is
related to Hebrew and Arabic. In Arabic twin is tau'am, so you can see
the similarity.

James Madison, James Monroe and James Polk all had a Semitic first
name, derived from the Hebrew Ya'aqov or Jacob, which is Ya`qub in
Arabic. It became Iacobus in Latin, then was corrupted to Iacomus, and
from there became James in English.

Zachary Taylor's first name is from the Hebrew Zachariah, which means
"the Lord has remembered."

Abraham Lincoln, of course is, named for the patriarch Abraham, from
the Semitic word for father, Ab, and the word for "multitude," raham,.
Abu, "father of," is a common element in Arab names today.

So, Mr. Cunningham, Barack Hussein Obama fits right in this list of
presidents with Semitic names. In fact, we haven't had one for a
while. We are due for another one.

A blessed and good one.
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pnorman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 09:53 AM
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1. The first name to come to my mind here concerning "Barak", was Baruch.
As in Bernard Baruch, FDR's financial adviser, among many other distinctions.

pnorman
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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 09:58 AM
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2. ...
:kick:
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Manifestor_of_Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 07:04 PM
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30. Baruch is the same word -- blessing
As in "baruch atar adonai".

The Dutch Jewish philosopher, Baruch Spinoza, is also known as Benedict Spinoza.

Bene = well or good(in latin) dict = to say (in Latin).

Benedict is also "blessing", in Latin.


Saint Boniface - to do (facio) good (boni).




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classof56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 09:59 AM
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3. Good information. Thanks for posting!
I haven't gotten e-mails from my so-called "good American" relatives as yet but pretty sure they're coming soon. Glad to have this post as a reference for a response, although to be honest, I don't think they'd "get it". None so blind as those who will not see.

Tired Old Cynic
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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 10:09 AM
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5. I know what you mean...
they don't get it. I had thought about this all weekend in how to respond. In fact, he and my sis are coming over for a visit today and I was going to approach this with him then. I just couldn't quite figure out how to "keep the peace" with him without blowing a gasket. He is one of those who has to be right and I really don't want the riff because of my sister.

However, I can't let these comments go without response. When I saw this email this morning, I was elated. Not just because of the awesome response, but because there are many who do "get it."

Good luck with your family! I think we need a new forum: DU members who have right wing family :D

:hi:
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classof56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 12:51 PM
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23. Great idea! We need all the mutual aid we can get, I can see it coming.
The family member who most often forwards these kinds of e-mails to me doesn't listen when I respond as kindly and diplomatically as I can. Not long ago she told me Obama is a Muslim and he won't say the Pledge of Allegiance and he turned his back on the flag and she knows this 'cause she saw him. I didn't bother to respond to that, but I have wondered how she as a Catholic felt about McCain "embracing" John Hagee, who calls the Catholic Church "Apostate" and "The Great Whore." McCain of course stepped away from Hagee and Parsley but I'm guessing we're going to be seeing/hearing many-many re-runs of Obama's former pastor's sound bites during the campaign. Would really love to see a DU forum where folks can share ideas on how to deal with our RW relatives, and if nothing else a place to vent!

Hope things go well w/your brother-in-law!

Blessings!
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 07:39 PM
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34. Here's another response, of a different nature, to throw back at 'em:
Edited on Sun Jun-08-08 07:39 PM by calimary
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1024927/The-wife-John-McCain-callously-left-behind.html

Family values? "Family Values"??????????

Why yes! "Family Values, GOP-Hypocrisy-style!" "Family Values, newt gingrich-style!" This is "The Strumpet Effect, mcsame-style" - a take-off of "The Strumpet Effect, giuliani-style."

TOTAL family values. My ass.
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 10:05 AM
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4. Sadly, . . .
The people who send those types of spam crap would never get past the first sentence or two. Attention problems.
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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 10:10 AM
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6. true...
and the words are too big for them:D
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watrwefitinfor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 10:34 AM
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14. But if you send your reply to ALL the addresses in the original message -
to all those who they never have sense enough to blind copy - then it will get to some who will read it. Pay attention and format your reply carefully. Reduce the bold. Break it into small paragraphs. Make it easy to read, so that salient points jump out at the reader.

I've done this sort of thing before, and been surprised to receive email from some of the other addressees - people unknown to me - thanking me for shooting such shit down.

This is excellent background on the name thing. It can be easily broken down into much smaller talking points.

It would also be good to cross post this to the Propaganda Debunking Forum:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topics&forum=284

Wat
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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 10:49 AM
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17. thanks...
I didn't even know we had this forum:shrug:
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QueenOfCalifornia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 11:00 AM
Response to Reply #17
18. nor did I
know about it.

I thank the poster of the original post for this.

It is very interesting and yet...

I wonder,

Will idiots who buy into the muslim ruse bother to read it?
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Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 10:11 AM
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7. ooo that is good
thanks
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Tippy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 10:15 AM
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8. Quick concise answer is sometimes beat and easier to remember
"I got from my fundie brother-in-law spouting off that Barack Obama was a "clown" for not putting his hand over his heart for the national anthem" .....

Not every American puts their hand over their heart during the National Anthem...But they do when reciting the Pledge of Alegience....
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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 10:15 AM
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9. ...
:kick: for afternoon crowd
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Hawkeye-X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 10:17 AM
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10. So my first name means "The Lord has remembered"
Edited on Sun Jun-08-08 10:18 AM by HawkeyeX
and I didn't even know that. Cool. My middle name means Beloved in Hebrew (another Semetic language)
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davepdx Donating Member (117 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 10:27 AM
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11. Was there an attachment for that email?
There seems to be some text missing. Maybe an attachment to the original email?

"Here is a list of how many times barak appears in each book of the Bible."

I don't see a list in the email. A list like that would really add to the impact of the email. Otherwise it is a very good response IMO.
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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 10:32 AM
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13. yes, there was a list--huge attachment
Edited on Sun Jun-08-08 10:44 AM by Blue_Roses
I just didn't put it in there. If you would like to see the original rwing email here it is:

John McCain's remarks about the Pledge of Allegiance


In light of the recent appeals court ruling in California , with respect to the Pledge of Allegiance, the following recollection from Senator John McCain is very appropriate:











'The Pledge of Allegiance' - by Senator John McCain


"As you may know, I spent five and one half years as a prisoner of war during the Vietnam War. In the early years of our imprisonment, the NVA kept us in solitary confinement or two or three to a cell. In 1971 the NVA moved us from these conditions of isolation into large rooms with as many as 30 to 40 men to a room.






This was, as you can imagine, a wonderful change and was a direct result of the efforts of millions of Americans on behalf of a few hundred POWs 10,000 miles from home.






One of the men who moved into my room was a young man named Mike Christian.


Mike came from a small town near Selma , Alabama . He didn't wear a pair of shoes until he was 13 years old. At 17, he enlisted in the US Navy. He later earned a commission by going to Officer Training School Then he became a Naval Flight Officer and was shot down and captured in 1967. Mike had a keen and deep appreciation of the opportunities this country and our military provide for people who want to work and want to succeed.






As part of the change in treatment, the Vietnamese allowed some prisoners to receive packages from home. In some of these packages were handkerchiefs, scarves and other items of clothing.






Mike got himself a bamboo needle. Over a period of a couple of months, he created an American flag and sewed on the inside of his shirt.






Every afternoon, before we had a bowl of soup, we would hang Mike's shirt on the wall of the cell and say the Pledge of Allegiance.






I know the Pledge of Allegiance may not seem the most important part of our day now, but I can assure you that in that stark cell it was indeed the most important and meaningful event.






One day the Vietnamese searched our cell, as they did periodically, and discovered Mike's shirt with the flag sewn inside, and removed it.






That evening they returned, opened the door of the cell, and for the benefit of all of us, beat Mike Christian severely for the next couple of hours. Then, they opened the door of the cell and threw him in. We cleaned him up as well as we could.






The cell in which we lived had a concrete slab in the middle on which we slept Four naked light bulbs hung in each corner of the room.






As I said, we tried to clean up Mike as well as we could. After the excitement died down, I looked in the corner of the room, and sitting there beneath that dim light bulb with a piece of red cloth, another shirt and his bamboo needle, was my friend, Mike Christian. He was sitting there with his eyes almost shut from the beating he had received, making another American flag. He was not making the flag because it made Mike Christian feel better. He was making that flag because he knew how important it was to us to be able to Pledge our allegiance to our flag and country.






So the next time you say the Pledge of Allegiance, you must never forget the sacrifice and courage that thousands of Americans have made to build our nation and promote freedom around the world. You must remember our duty, our honor, and our country."






"I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisable, with liberty and justice for all."






PASS THIS ON... And on... And on! You can even send it back to me, I don't mind, because its worth reading again.


oh......and then you have this clown, who refuses to place his hand on his heart and say the pledge......


Subject: Remember this picture on election day!


Let's all remember this on election day...if you have family serving in the military, make sure you send it along. I don't care for Hillary, but at least she shows respect for the country she lives in!


I had heard about this but a picture is definitely worth 1000 words! God save us!!!






Senator Barack Obama, Governor Bill Richardson, Senator Hillary Clinton and Ruth Harkin stand during the national anthem.
Barack Hussein Obama's photo (that's his real name)......the article said he REFUSED TO NOT ONLY PUT HIS HAND ON HIS HEART DURING THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, BUT REFUSED TO SAY THE PLEDGE.....how can a man like this expect to be our next C ommander-in-Chief




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Fly by night Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 10:30 AM
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12. Great response. K&R.
I will use it -- looking forward to the chance.
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PylesMalfunction Donating Member (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 10:36 AM
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15. I think it's a great reply
but it's too long and uses too many big words for the intended target audience to understand. ;)
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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 10:46 AM
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16. exactly...
Edited on Sun Jun-08-08 10:48 AM by Blue_Roses
they can only handle a few words like "clown," "terrorist" and "traitor"...:P
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 11:23 AM
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19. I'd like to ask your permission...
to use parts of this. I am writing a little newsletter to letter bomb my neighborhood. Please let me know..either way.
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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 11:43 AM
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21. most definitely!
:D
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 11:46 AM
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22. Thanks!
I'm going to caption it "what's in a name" :toast:
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Willo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 11:39 AM
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20. Good information K&R
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casus belli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 01:06 PM
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24. Excellent response! But, unfortunately, too many words for fundies.
I've found they have a hard time paying attention to anything longer than a bumper sticker. But good for whoever responded for sticking it to them anyway. :)
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 01:13 PM
Original message
Bookmarked for use in putting out a viral email.....and getting it out.
Thanks! :hi:
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 01:13 PM
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25. Bookmarked for use in putting out a viral email.....and getting it out.
Thanks! :hi:
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Gold Metal Flake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 01:17 PM
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26. That was written by Juan Cole (link)
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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 07:15 PM
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31. hmmm...
interesting..thanks:hi:
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dana_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 01:38 PM
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27. Bookmarked as well!!
Very interesting. WHoever wrote that did a lot of good research and it really demonstrates the ridiculousness of the fear based tactics used by some on the right.
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RedLetterRev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 03:34 PM
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28. And FWIW
here's another link that was posted on KA just a few days ago. It has lots and lots of linkies (yeah, I know RW'ers don't follow links, especially if they might get their stories deflated). But a lot of those links are worth making a special sub-folder in your Favorites/Bookmarks just for refuting idiotic smearmails. (RW "truths" hate sunshine.)

The truth about Barack Obama (Oliver Willis: "Like Kryptonite to Stupid")

Great response, BTW. I had wondered if "Barack" and "Baruch" (blessed) had the same root. Thanks for the research!

The RW wurlitzer hasn't even started its playlist yet and I fear that once President Obama (dang! that sounds good!) takes the Oval Office (which will probably need a good sage smudging to chase all the evil out of it), it will only get louder. We'll need every refutation at hand (and not a little patience not to throttle the idiots who prefer a good fairy-tale to actual truth). I hope they don't try to do to him what they did to Carter: leave a gigantic mess and then blame it on the successor. Gut says different. Gird for battle.

Best of luck with your relatives. I feel your pain.

And yes, I 2nd a forum for DU'ers with wingnut relatives (sigh). Some of them I love dearly, but it's occasionally a struggle not to grab them by the neck and shake them to see if they have a brain that will at least make a rattling noise. The rest I've had to tell to take a long piss up a short, wet rope. You have to wonder how some folks can dress themselves in the morning and get their own shoelaces tied when they spout "ignernt" nonsense like the letter you got. The RW'ers have adopted another tactic, claiming that their smearmails "were thoroughly checked out by Snopes and IT'S TRUE"... but if you follow the links to Snopes (which, again, RW'ers generally don't), you'll see at the very best that it contains some partial truths. But the RW never let a thing like truth stand in the way of a good smear.
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 03:48 PM
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29. Wonderful
:bounce::bounce::bounce:
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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 07:19 PM
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32. Good...
I had to do the very same thing on the local papers forum, it is a swell of stupid.

I saved this and will use it to repell the fundi emails I get here at work from time to time.
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onetwo Donating Member (439 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 07:24 PM
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33. Good response, but the spam emails work because...
...they know how to distill information like this into a form easily digestable by the target demographic.
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DangerousRhythm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 04:40 PM
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35. Kicking...
because I think this is a good response to send to those emails. It may be more "wordy" than some recipients can handle, but maybe, just maybe it'd reach someone. One at a time... :)
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