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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 06:22 PM
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Absolute fucking insanity: McCain campaign claims Obama would be a third term for Bush.
Edited on Sun Jun-08-08 06:23 PM by Occam Bandage
Apparently the McCain campaign is feeling the sting of comparisons to George Bush. McCain describes himself as the strongest support of the war in Iraq. His answer to $4.00 gasoline is to cut oil company taxes by $4 billion a year. And McCain has embraced a Bush proposal to radically change our health care system. (These and other similarities are described in a memorandum released today by the Center for American Progress Action Fund.)

Swimming upstream, McCain policy advisor Douglas Holtz-Eakin now argues that it is Senator Obama – not McCain – who wants to continue Bush’s fiscal policies. Obama’s budget “is dedicated to the recent Bush tradition of spending money on everything,”

http://thinkprogress.org/wonkroom/2008/06/06/dhe-obama-bush-term/


But even conservatives aren’t taking the bait on the new talking point. Reacting to Holtz-Eakin’s interview, conservative pundit Robert Novak said on Bloomberg TV:

That is the silliest thing I have ever heard! And I won’t even dignify how stupid it is.
http://thinkprogress.org/2008/06/08/novak-rips-holtz-eakin/


...seriously, what? Will their next claim be, "Obama is unelectable because he's a half-senile elderly man with a history of cancer?"
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 06:24 PM
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1. Even Novak won't jump on it? Wow.
McCain's angry responses will cost him.
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 06:25 PM
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2. You have to admit, They are REALLY thinking out of the box.
That is a line of attack that I would never had dreamed of.
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Ravy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 06:27 PM
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5. That is more appropriately titled "Out of the Mind" thinking, I believe. nt
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 06:29 PM
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7. They need to get a bag o' shrooms, a handle of Wild Turkey and some Jack in the Box tacos.
They need to polish the above list off and then write down what ever comes naturally.

That sounds like a winning strategy.
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Ravy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 06:34 PM
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16. I don't know if it is a "winning" strategy, but bound to be an improvment on their
thinking process that came up with this.
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ms liberty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 08:01 PM
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43. Or maybe "Out to Lunch" - lol! n/t
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 06:32 PM
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12. You wouldn't have dreamed of it because it's completely fucking stupid.
But props to them for thinking it up.
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 06:33 PM
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15. hehe
But still. Seriously.

I hope he keeps talking.

I can imagine the ads now.


McCain vs McCain vs McCain vs McCain vs McCain vs McCain vs McCain vs McCain


Which one do you believe?
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 06:41 PM
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23. The beauty of it all is that McCain is screwed and he knows it.
He can't win without the 28% that still loves Bush.
He can't win without indies and Dems that HATE Bush.
If he is positive about Bush's legacy, he'll lose the indies and Dems.
If he is negative about Bush's legacy, he'll lose the 28% crowd.
He has to try desparately to straddle the line between the two, embracing Bush and distancing himself from him at the same time. Therefore, he has to be a different John McCain everytime he opens his mouth!
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 07:47 PM
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38. I think you've just nailed it!
Edited on Sun Jun-08-08 07:48 PM by NanceGreggs
McCain is now a modern-day Goldilocks (or lack thereof, as the case may be) who is desperately trying to find the campaign porridge that is not too hot, and not too cold - and doesn't yet understand that there is no "just right" available as an option.
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 08:07 PM
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45. The beauty of this race is that Obama doesn't have McCain's problem.
He doesn't NEED the 28% crowd to win. All he needs to do is keep pushing the '3rd Bush term' line, and while McCain struggles to stay on message, Obama will coast to a comfortable win in the General Election.
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mcg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 11:15 PM
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56. Old man yelling at himself. nt
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nxylas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 07:38 PM
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37. It's the standard Republican Pee-Wee Herman strategy
If your opponent hits you with your greatest weakness (in this case, the ties to a deeply unpopular president), just hit back with "I know you are, but what am I?"

McCain's a loner, Dottie. A rebel.
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 08:05 PM
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44. not even Large Marge can save McCain now!
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 10:55 PM
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54. "They are REALLY thinking out of the box." The Cracker jack Box
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 06:25 PM
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3. Ain't that a kick in the head?
It's like KKKarl Rove in Cliff Notes.
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 06:26 PM
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4. How stupid can they get?
Apparently, more stupid than we ever dreamed! :crazy:
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 06:28 PM
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6. That doesn't even deserve a response. LOL!
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Obama4prez4life Donating Member (20 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 06:30 PM
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8. HAHAHA...wait..this is real?
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 06:30 PM
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11. Welcome to DU
Interesting handle.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 06:37 PM
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19. It's sourced, Einstein. nt
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 06:30 PM
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9. They really do believe what the crap they manufacture at the Heritage Foundation.
I almost--nah, forget it.

May they rot in their delusions.

OTOH--the tactic is working on our side, BECAUSE IT'S TRUE.
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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 06:30 PM
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10. Is this their plan!? pathetic in the least.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 06:32 PM
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13. They got nuthin' and they know it. They are so screwn! nt
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 06:33 PM
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14. Today is opposite day!
What a brillaint strategy, Senator McCain! Your victory is positively ASSURED if you keep up this line of attack!
Today is opposite day!
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 06:35 PM
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17. And the dipsticks who vote for mccain
will, no doubt, lap this up like cream. Those mccain voters also couldn't care less about our Environment and are the enemies to our Planet.
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 06:37 PM
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18. Standard Psyops
always accuse your opponent of what You Are..

But in this case they're sending transmissions from Mars :)

LOL for the OP's hilarious comments!
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 06:38 PM
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20. McWar's advisors are beyond desperate, and it's only June!
I agree with the above poster who said "That's thinking out of the mind"
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crankychatter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 06:39 PM
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21. I wonder where he picked up THAT tactic?
rhetorical question
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 06:40 PM
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22. Needs one more vote, folks. Everyone should see this. nt
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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 06:41 PM
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24. PLEASE say that in a town hall or a debate, John
Edited on Sun Jun-08-08 06:42 PM by anigbrowl
:rofl:
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Anna Lee Donating Member (42 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 06:44 PM
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25. This is a new strategy.
I was clicking through the cable the other night and happened to pick up on a talking heads segment on FOX news. They were discussing and lamenting how the Democratic Congress was driving up oil and pharma prices by being so in-bed with the oil and pharmacy lobbies. Three or four of them just sitting there and shaking their heads about the Democratic Congress' big business ties and how the Democratic party was hurting the little guy to the advantage of big oil and big pharma. There are snakes pouring oil everywhere. Someone is going to light it at some point but I can't tell which party will burn.
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tblue37 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 10:33 PM
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62. It is no different than portraying a genuine war hero (Kerry) as a
coward while presenting a cowardly AWOL chickenhawk as a hero.

They have succeeded in persuading the American people of such absolute nonsense before. And don't forget, they will have the help of the corporate media to push this crap. If the corporate media can successfuly portray McSame as an independent, moderate maverick (and they do), then they can also get the American public to believe that all the crimes and incompetence of the Republican reign have actually been committed by Democrats.

No one believed they could do what they did to Kerry, either, or that they could sell GWB to the public, and yet they did.
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Undercurrent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 06:45 PM
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26. Sheesh!

The McSame guys are a really weird bunch of lame brains!
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 06:46 PM
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27. Oh that just will not fly.
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boppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 06:51 PM
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28. Okay, if McCain comes out in blackface, I'm outta here.
Just too weird for words, really.
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TeamsterDem Donating Member (819 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 07:25 PM
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33. LOL. At this point I wouldn't put it past him. n/t
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pnorman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 06:52 PM
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29. That's like throwing shit against the CEILING,
and "hoping" that at least some of it will stick!

Guard against overconfidence until the vote count is certified, and exert all your efforts to the utmost until then. But we're looking at serious dementia here. Being 78.4 myself, I WON'T use the term "senile". (And I hope my brothers & sisters here on DU, will also refrain from using it too freely)

pnorman
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cliss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 07:19 PM
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30. This isn't the first time he's said this.
A few months ago, Mc Old made the claim: "Obama is for the old ways, and I'm for a new way".

It would be funny if it weren't so stupid.
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TeamsterDem Donating Member (819 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 07:20 PM
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31. And similarly up is down, right is left, and black is white. n/t
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 11:25 PM
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57. War is peace!
Freedom is slavery!
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TeamsterDem Donating Member (819 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 11:45 PM
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58. Since it's McSame we're talking about, I definitely shouldn't have forgotten "war is peace"! n/t
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Dawgs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 07:23 PM
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32. Sounds like the beginnings of a new commercial.
:shrug:
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Hansel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 07:25 PM
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34. McCain: "I'm rubber you're glue, my friend." eom
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 07:26 PM
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35. I don't even think McBush is going to make it thru to the GE. too much stress
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jazzjunkysue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 07:26 PM
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36. Gramp's Titanic Campaign. It's going so well, already!
Right out of the gate, he hasen't hit a single target, yet.

Honestly, has anyone here seen him land one good punch?

The geezer's shooting blanks.
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SalmonChantedEvening Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 07:48 PM
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39. "recent Bush tradition?" RECENT?
They've been doing that for generations. It oughta be something in Latin on their family crest.

When even Novak won't run with your BS it's time to sit back and take stock of things. :rofl:
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cliss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 07:49 PM
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40. Also, don't forget there's
1 different kinds of "change".

Mc Old: I'm for "good" change. Obama is for "bad" change.

See? The message has gotten through to the old boy. He gets it! Americans want change.
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democracy1st Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 07:50 PM
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41. Wow
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 07:54 PM
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42. He'll just babble anything won't he?
Somehow the republicans have managed to put up someone as incoherent as baby bush. Amazing.
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ms liberty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 08:10 PM
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47. And tune in next week...
When John McCain will claim that he's the real brother in this election!
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 08:11 PM
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48. Damn they're desperate.
This is going to a fun general election.

I can't wait to get out there volunteering again. If only work would let up a bit. :(
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Jeff In Milwaukee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 08:16 PM
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49. No No No...
You've got it all wrong. This is fucking BRILLIANT on the part of the McCain Campaign. This is the time of the electoral season when you're trying to define your opponent -- so what better way to do it than to define your opponent as the least popular candidate in the race. I mean, if Karl Rove has ever done acid, this is something that would have come right out of playbook. Along with the lyrics to "Yellow Submarine."
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 08:46 PM
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50. McCain isn't the only thing that's old...
Talk about campaigning in the past...that bullshit of 'big spending Democrats' is dead. But it's great to see where their heads are at.
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 09:16 PM
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51. LOL
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papapi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 10:48 PM
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52. So let me get this straight - McClaim endorses Obama for President? Well now...
that's a new twist. With enemies like him who needs friends?
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 10:52 PM
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53. Had they spun it well, I'd call it a "big balls" lie. Sadly, it's just a big dumb lie.
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sampsonblk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 11:03 PM
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55. This is great for us
The more McCain tries to differentiate himself from Bush, the more his own party will dislike and disown him.

We are in perfect position for huge gains this year.
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cooolandrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 12:14 AM
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59. I suppose McSame rejects Bush's endorsement now.
Edited on Mon Jun-09-08 12:26 AM by cooolandrew
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 12:15 AM
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60. MCan't gets more senile by the day
He really needs to up his Aricept. :eyes:
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Kool Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 12:20 AM
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61. If nothing else, this proves that the people that run
Edited on Mon Jun-09-08 12:20 AM by Kool Kitty
McCain's campaign aren't just social drinkers.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 08:30 AM
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68. ,,,
:spray:
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Lord Helmet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 10:36 PM
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63. McCain's got sawdust for brains
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 10:45 PM
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64. McCain will make it easier for Obama than what most people suspect.
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 10:48 PM
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65. The old "Bush was too liberal!" line.
Hilarious.
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 05:55 AM
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66. Good. Let him keep spewing that crap. It will prove how senile he is. nt
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LTR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 08:24 AM
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67. Okay, McCain failed
Edited on Tue Jun-10-08 08:24 AM by Fighting Irish


That is the dumbest thing I've ever heard from a major candidate. This guy is more pathetic than Dole!
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ericgtr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 08:51 AM
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69. Is it just me or does McCain copy whatever Obama says
and try to turn it around on him? That really makes him look desperate in the process, all I can say is they better do better than that if they want to gain on Obama.
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