Today's EC map. Wisconsin and Colorado-->Tied

TheReligiousLeft

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Wed Aug-18-04 02:18 PM
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Today's EC map. Wisconsin and Colorado-->Tied

<http://www.electoral-vote.com>
Big news, Wisc. is no longer blue, and Colorado is no longer red. If the election was held today it would be
Kerry 317 Bush 202
What do people know about the Colorado referendum? I've heard that it makes it possible for the SCOTUS to make or break a 9 electorial vote election. They can rule the referendum (to split up the 9 votes proportionally) as constitutional or not, thus they can again chose the President.
What are your thoughts?

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pmbryant

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Wed Aug-18-04 02:22 PM
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1. I don't think SCOTUS has jurisdiction

Edited on Wed Aug-18-04 02:22 PM by pmbryant

Over how states decide to allocate their electoral votes.

Not that will stop them. I didn't last time. :-(

--Peter

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yellowcanine

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Wed Aug-18-04 02:25 PM
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2. I suppose that is possible - I doubt it will come down to that. I think

it is kind of nutty in the first place that the referendum is structured in such a way as to have the change kick in on this election. That doesn't mean it's not constitutional - I just think it is a half-assed way to do things. It would better if people were voting on the merits of the plan and weren't influenced by how they are voting for president this time and how they think Colorado will go.

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Feanorcurufinwe

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Wed Aug-18-04 02:25 PM
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3. I am a lot more hopeful that we can win CO

than I am fearful that we will lose WI.

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TheReligiousLeft

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Wed Aug-18-04 02:32 PM
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5. I'm thinking both will be retained

CO will be red and WI will be blue, still there is always hope.

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StClone

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Wed Aug-18-04 02:38 PM
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8. We won't

Wisconsin is not going to Bush.

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NWHarkness

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Wed Aug-18-04 02:31 PM
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4. That site makes no distinction between pollsters

The Wisconsin results, plus the highly suspect Michigan numbers, are from Strategic Visions, a GOP firm that is somewhat less than 100% credible.

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TheReligiousLeft

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Wed Aug-18-04 02:34 PM
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6. Didn't know that

thanks for the info.

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Feanorcurufinwe

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Wed Aug-18-04 02:35 PM
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7. Yes, they just use the most recent poll, whoever did it.

And yes, Strategic Visions makes no bones about being a GOP outfit.

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genius

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Wed Aug-18-04 03:27 PM
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9. If we're losing Wisc,, we're in trouble

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against all enemies

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Wed Aug-18-04 03:37 PM
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10. How in hell is Wisconsin going for Bush?

And I agree if Wisconsin is for W, the game is over.

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fujiyama

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Wed Aug-18-04 03:46 PM
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11. Not necessarily

If Kerry gets OH and FL (if the vote is fair there), then he can even if he loses WI or IA.

Granted, I'd rather he wins them all.

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against all enemies

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Wed Aug-18-04 09:51 PM
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13. I understand the math but, if Kerry loses Wisconsin there is no way

he wins Ohio. Voters won't break both ways, and Ohio is less likely to go Dem. I agree all would be nice, but the Florida vote is controlled by Jeb, again.

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rockymountaindem

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Wed Aug-18-04 04:20 PM
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12. That CO poll

was done for the local Colorado Springs tv news station. I wouldn't put too much stock in that one. That being said, a site that simply uses the most recent poll isn't that reliable. I bet we're better off in WI and worse off in CO.

However, I still think a CO win is possible, but unlikely.

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