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charlie and algernon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 01:17 PM
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Obama needs to go to Canada tomorrow
You want to sink McCain right now, Obama needs to accompany senior citizen americans as they go to Canada for the cheaper drugs, then make a big speech after he crosses back into the US. He needs to highlight this sad truth that people ARE going to Canada for better health care. That would be the end of McCain.
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BklynChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 01:18 PM
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1. wow that's an excellent idea
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Alter Ego Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 01:18 PM
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2. Heh--go to Canada and make a public speech saying this:
"OK, Senator McCain--now what? Would you like me to go to Kazakhstan next?"
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 01:25 PM
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3. I thought the medicare bill made importation illegal?
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madeline_con Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 01:53 PM
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10. I thought they'd have to wait a couple of years for an
appointment, nad that was why Canadians come here for medical care.
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Lucy Goosey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 02:19 PM
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13. The waiting list situation is exaggerated by the American media.
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scrappydo Donating Member (194 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 02:49 PM
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20. So very true....
My son is living in Canada to be near his girl friend who he met while both of them where going to college in MN. He has health care coverage there as he is still in school and works in Canada. He waits no longer for health care in Canada than he did in the United States and any prescriptions he needs are much cheaper. So much for McCain's claims and the MSM spin...:grr:
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Bassic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 05:46 PM
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37. That's exactly right.
Edited on Thu Jun-12-08 05:48 PM by Bassic
Although waiting lists can sometimes be a problem, the situation is nowhere near as bad as what you can read in the American media. And you know what, considering the fact that there is no chance in hell that health problems will cause me to go bankrupt over here, I choose that.

In my personal experience, though anecdotal, the people who choose to go to the US for certain operations are usually very rich people who really don't mind the expense. The rest of us normal people like our health care system just fine.

Edited to addd: Of course you already know that, I just noticed you're Canadian.
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gcomeau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 02:51 PM
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24. That's pure crap.
There are some specialty procedures that you have to go on a waiting list for in order of your urgency of care, and sometimes the more wealthy decide it's worth their money to pay to have it done in the states to skip the line. The conservatives love to hunt those stories down and hype them as an excuse to keep demonizing universal healthcare with "OMG! Waiting Lists!" stories.

They tend to skip over the part where all those millions of Americans don't get care at all while they're complaining about the horrors of the people lining up to be treated up north.
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 05:35 PM
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34. Do you really buy into that crap? How many come here a year? And for what?
Do you know?
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Bassic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 05:49 PM
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38. The answer is
Very few, and usually for some kind of operation, if they are rich. (In general)
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ellacott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 02:54 PM
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26. It did. I hope they don't do this
It's illegal but they are not really enforcing it. Homeland Security is starting to enforce it again. I could see them broadcasting that Obama broke the law.
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 05:36 PM
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35. Before the bill passed, lots of folks went to both MX and Canada for prescription drugs.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 01:26 PM
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4. Great idea. Email it to the campaign.
Line up a few disabled/poor Canadians too and ask them what they think about their "awful" free healthcare system.
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charlie and algernon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 01:37 PM
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7. just emailed them
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ellacott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 03:04 PM
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31. It's against the law to do this
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 01:26 PM
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5. K&R
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rockymountaindem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 01:31 PM
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6. Absolutely not
That will just make the Canadians feel like they're better than us. We don't need to contribute to their national pastime.
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 02:24 PM
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15. It'll take a long time for that to go away, their currency is now worth more...
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rockymountaindem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 02:42 PM
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18. Not anymore
1USD = 1.02CAD
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 02:52 PM
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25. SUCK IT, GREATER ONTARIO
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 05:42 PM
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36. Montana and Alberta should succeed and form a country. We would have the headwaters of the
Columbia and the Missouri. We'd have 1/5 of the wheat growing land in the world, we'd have really a lot of shale oil and coal, we'd have a bunch of minute man ICBMs, and we'd finally have Canadian Style health insurance here in MT.

Sign me up!
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 02:51 PM
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23. How about if we sell cocaine to People in Vancouver to fund FLQ style militant separatists in Quebec
Edited on Thu Jun-12-08 02:53 PM by JVS
Then everyone wins.
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Bigleaf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 02:58 PM
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28. Better than us, national pastime? You're talking hockey. They did give you Sakic, Blake, Foote, Roy
hell, the whole Quebec Nordiques team which enabled the Avs to win the Cup their first year back.

;)
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newmajority Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 02:59 PM
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29. Hockey?
What does that have to do with this thread, eh?

:beer: <-----
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Bassic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 06:04 PM
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39. We are better than you
:P
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nickyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 01:49 PM
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8. One of the best ideas I ever heard.
If the media were gathered at the border as they returned, would our dear seniors then be busted for illegal trafficking? Hell, Obama wouldn't have to give a big ole speech...he could just help escort all the grandmas and great uncles onto the paddy wagon, turn and face the camera, and maybe say, "Oh, this isn't too important..."

I'm salivating at the thought. Thanks for this most pleasing fantasy, charlie and algernon!
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 01:51 PM
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9. He should take me to Mexico for dental care and drugs
And add some health care stops when he does his global tour, introducing Americans to the idea of "medical tourism".
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TrogL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 02:12 PM
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11. I've got a spare bedroom
...and there's a drug store down the street that's got a good layout for photo ops.
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quantass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 02:18 PM
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12. Yes come here to CANADA...Canadians for Obama!!
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 02:23 PM
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14. Good idea, send to Obama campaign. Anything to SHOW America he's for the us is good
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charlie and algernon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 02:36 PM
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16. already did
whether it actually makes it above the 1000s of emails they recieve a day is another story.
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 02:41 PM
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17. That's a great idea! Some seniors even charter buses to Canada
to pick up their prescriptions. If Obama could hop on one of those with a news crew it would be golden.
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charlie and algernon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 02:49 PM
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21. that would be awsome
a bunch of seniors, Barack Obama, the NY Times, Wash Post, and CNN. LOL
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ellacott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 03:03 PM
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30. It's Illegal
They don't enforce it but I can imagine they would if Obama did it. His detractors would make a big deal about him breaking the law and they wouldn't listen to motive for doing it.
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gcomeau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 02:46 PM
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19. If he goes to Canada...
...they may keep him.

http://canadianpress.google.com/article/ALeqM5hLVIuMaMuMCQS_xAvGgg_4ImckvA

Obama trounced McCain in landslide for Canadians' affections, poll suggests

May 21, 2008

OTTAWA — Democrat Barack Obama would crush Republican John McCain in the U.S. presidential race by an almost four-to-one margin - 56 per cent to 15 - if it were up to Canadians.
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charlie and algernon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 02:50 PM
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22. the whole world loves him
if he goes anywhere outside the US, he'd get throngs of people.
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Hutzpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 02:54 PM
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27. He needs to go to China too
so he can make a big speech over there then come back and make another big
speech.


:wtf:
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dorkulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 03:05 PM
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32. Bad idea.
This would just reinforce the Repug notion that Obama isn't loyal or patriotic, by making Canada look good and America look bad. Comparisons to Michael Moore would ensue.
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charlie and algernon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 03:14 PM
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33. it would depend how Obama frames it
I see now that it is illegal, so he couldn't do it anyway. The hardcore repubs are going to say anything is unpatriotic that even suggests america isn't the greatest thing all time, but regular mainstream americans would love it. To those that actually have to choose between medicine and food, Obama will be the greatest thing since sliced bread.
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