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Hope And Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 10:48 AM
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Rasmussen Poll June14 : Obama 47%, McCain 40%(without Leaners)---Obama 49%, McCain 43%(with Leaners)
Edited on Sat Jun-14-08 10:49 AM by Hope And Change
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Hope And Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 11:02 AM
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1. ..
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 11:06 AM
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2. GOBAMA!
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 11:07 AM
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3. Pretty small bump for Obama since he clinched it.
I expected at least a 10% point advantage right after the nomination. So far, he's gotten only 6% - 7% points ahead of McCain.

I wonder why?
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dtotire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 11:12 AM
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4. Dukakis was 17% ahead of Bush I
in 1988. Yet he lost.
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Overseas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 11:16 AM
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5. We're supposed to be nice and not mention that the loser wanted to hold the spotlight
The loser wanted to hold the spotlight for a few more days, so the thrilling historic celebration was quashed somewhat until that very important person finally deigned to provide her precious acknowledgment of his victory. She held the reporters in suspense and hogged the post primary news cycles for a few days. What would this important political dynastic figure decide to do? Never mind the winner-- what was she thinking and doing? Once the Clinton dynasty had deigned to concede, his victory was old news. Whoops. Sorry pal.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 11:29 AM
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 02:49 PM
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17. You are right, the loser's indecisive nature drew all attention to her at the end because nobody...
was able to predict her erratic and illogical pattern of decision-making any longer.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 11:20 AM
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6. Are you concerned?
:shrug:
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qazplm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 11:27 AM
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8. small bump?
He was behind by a few and now he is up by 6-7, that's almost a 10 point swing.

Pretty big bump/lead in what is at the end of the day often a 52-48 environment for one side or the other or closer.

He should get another bounce from the convention although unfortunately we scheduled it to end only a few days before the RNC begins so unsure whether that is smart in that it depresses the normal RNC bounce or dumb in that it minimizes our own.

Still, barring a major event like bittergate or Wright on our side, you'd expect post convention to see it around 10 points.

I do not think the RNC bounce will at its best drop us down to anything other than a tie, if not a small Obama lead and then you are left with the debates.

And as usual, the perceived winner of the debates, will win the election.

Note I said perceived winner, not the actual winner.
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 11:33 AM
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11. The bump will all depend what happens at the convention. n/t
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 01:54 PM
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15. Kerry Won All Three Debates According To The Polls
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 11:31 AM
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10. What evidence can you cite that a 10% bump is to be reasonably expected?
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 11:34 AM
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12. From previous elections.
Sorry can't elaborate more, I'm on my way out the door.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 11:59 AM
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13. Do get back to us on this. nt
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 02:54 PM
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18. Or not. That would be fine too.
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 02:00 PM
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16. Except that never happened.
Edited on Sat Jun-14-08 02:02 PM by Drunken Irishman
Kerry never led Bush by more than 8 points and he only did that for like a couple of days, before the gap closed and it was neck and neck the entire election. Obama has now led McCain outside of the MOE for over a week now.

Gore never led Bush, even after winning the nomination. From September of 1999 to essentially election day, Gore trailed in every major poll.

Dole never led Clinton, not even after winning the Republican nomination.

Clinton didn't lead Bush until later in the summer, well after securing the nomination. In fact, this time in 1992, Clinton was in THIRD!

In a three-way race, 32 percent of the registered voters said they would prefer Mr. Bush, 30 percent Mr. Perot and 24 percent Mr. Clinton. Since the last Times/CBS Poll, conducted in early May, both Mr. Bush and Mr. Clinton have slipped and Mr. Perot has gained.

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9E0CE2D9123EF930A15755C0A964958260



Obama actually has seen a bigger bump than any of the last few presidential candidates.
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datopbanana Donating Member (938 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 12:51 AM
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19. Good. You can elaborate when you get back. But 10 bux you won't.
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datopbanana Donating Member (938 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 01:57 PM
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20. Still out?
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datopbanana Donating Member (938 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 11:47 PM
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27. This must be a long trip.
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PM7nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 12:10 AM
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29. Which one?
Can you cite an example?
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Blondiegrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 08:51 PM
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26. That would be the bitter Hillary supporters who have vowed to vote for McCain.
All things considered, I think Obama's numbers are actually BETTER than expected once the histrionic nut jobs are factored in.

Oh, but your concern is duly noted. :eyes:
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 11:53 PM
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28. Probably because of the way Hillary waited so long to drop out
and divided the party.
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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 11:23 AM
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7. See the purty graphs here:
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DerekJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 01:48 PM
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14. K & R
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 04:36 PM
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21. The fact that McGramps can't break 45% is a good sign
And I don't think it's unreasonable to assume Obama is going to pick up a good bit of those undecideds.
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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 08:46 PM
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24. Thank you so much! The Clintonistas are creaming their pants but cannot explain
why their hero, McSame, cannot break 50% even though he supposedly benefitted from Democratic in-fighting and perhaps women voters for Clinton vowing to vote for him. He was supposed to be ahead of Obama. Instead, the man simply cannot get above 45-48% depending on the poll. Now why is that? Everyone is fixated on Obama's "shortcomings," but totally ignore McSame's massive problems!!
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definitelygenius Donating Member (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 04:37 PM
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22. Weird. Rasmussen and Gallup are at odds
Both have Obama ahead, but one (Gallup) shows Obama declining while Rasmussen has him steady.
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Hope And Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 04:42 PM
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23. Well...
polls are polls :)
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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 08:48 PM
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25. Nice to see US starting in the lead
I don't see McCain ever going ahead.
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