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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 05:15 PM
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So when is Bill Clinton going to endorse Barack Obama?
:shrug:
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BelleCarolinaPeridot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 05:17 PM
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1. Bill Clinton is busy polishing the tiara to handover to Obama ...
Edited on Mon Jun-16-08 05:17 PM by CarolinaPeridot
because he really won't be the first black President of the United States anymore.

:hide:
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 05:17 PM
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2. What are you saying? nt
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 05:19 PM
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3. Convention. nt
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 05:19 PM
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4. At the start of some week when Obama wants to make more news
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 06:12 PM
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15. Getting a handle on
his campaign, are ya? :)
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 06:32 PM
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19. Had it for months now
:D
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 05:25 PM
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5. at a strategic time and place
Virginia - maybe even Arkansas as it is now in double digits.
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BelleCarolinaPeridot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 05:28 PM
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8. I get the feeling that they are going to have to push him onto the stage with a broom.
Speaking of Clinton,I watched Primary Colors last night.
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 06:34 PM
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21. John Travolta
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Fire_brand Donating Member (443 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 09:01 AM
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83. single digits
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 05:27 PM
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6. HE's stll angry...
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 05:34 PM
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9. Well he's the most recent Democratic president
so it seems like he'd better get over his wife's loss and get behind the Democratic nominee. He knows that the party expects nothing less from him.
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niceypoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 11:14 PM
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70. YOU're still angry
Get over it.
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JackORoses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 09:20 AM
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87. still living up to your name i see
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 05:28 PM
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7. When Obama needs the angry red faced finger wagging white guy vote
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 05:35 PM
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10. That's exactly the vote Obama needs in my state.
Angry old white men. They identify with McCain, not surprisingly.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 05:36 PM
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 05:49 PM
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13. What exactly is your problem?
:shrug:
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BelleCarolinaPeridot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 06:17 PM
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16. Its going to be a LOOOONG general election season ...
I am just going to hang out right here :

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peacebird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 06:32 PM
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18. i LOVE that porch! And the colors used are fabulous!
:hi:
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 05:42 PM
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12. I would like to see him endorse in a big rally in ARK or FL
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TheDonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 05:56 PM
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14. FL, PA or OH would be my preference
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 06:38 PM
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24. Arkansas is home territory and
that seems like a good strategic place to do it.
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enid602 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 06:24 PM
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17. vilification
Team Obama's worked double time trying to convince everyone on websites like this that the Clintons were directly responsible for NAFTA, Iraq War, outsourcing, Welfare Reform, the death of Affirmative Action, etc.; kind of hard picturing Clinton giving a heartfelt endorsement at this point. We've only had three dem administrations in the last 40 years; Clinton headed two of them, and they were the only effective ones. Note to Team Obama: don't shit where you eat.
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 06:36 PM
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23. If Hillary could do it, Bill can too.
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enid602 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 06:45 PM
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25. he will
I'm sure he will; I just don't know if he'll be able to make it sound plausible.
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 07:54 PM
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28. No doubt. He has the capacity to be very gracious.
And I'm sure he'll want to be on good terms with the Obama administration.
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 09:56 PM
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52. Hillary was strong armed to do it.
She was forced to do it sooner rather than later and so it went.
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 08:41 PM
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35. Hear, hear!!!
After all the trashing that Obama did of Clinton's administration, I wish he wouldn't officially endorse him. But he will, he knows how the game is played. It' all hypocritical B.S. anyway on everybody's part.
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 09:24 PM
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47. Politicians are politicians
All of them play the game, because they need to feed off each other's power to survive. Obama is the new Big Dog, so old Big Dog has to show some respect.
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 10:24 PM
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56. Yeah, at least for now. /t
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enid602 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 01:34 PM
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89. remains to be seen
The real Big Dog was the only successful dem president in 40 years (maybe over 40 years, as the Johnson Administration did not end happily); Obama will be lucky to best his record.
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Telly Savalas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 10:29 PM
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58. Please explain why it's hypocrisy that Clinton would publicly express
a preference for Obama over McCain. Has Clinton made any remarks suggesting that he thinks McCain is closer to sharing his vision for America than Obama?
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 10:34 PM
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60. It's hypocrisy on all sides.
At his point they probably can't stand to be in the same room, but both Obama and Bill will go through the motions. That's the way politics is played. You win some you lose some, but the thing is to survive to fight a new battle another day.
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Flying Dream Blues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 10:43 PM
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64. I never heard Obama trashing Clinton's administration. Links? I guess not. nt
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enid602 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 01:32 PM
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88. yes
For all the accolades bestowed on Obama and his admittedly innovative campaign, the vilification of the Clintons might come back to bite him.
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genna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 08:46 PM
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39. note to Clinton: You do want your wife to have a future, don't you?
I'd think Clinton would wag his finger at us all and say his intentions for these measures did not meet what Congress did with it.

(how is the Iraqi War his fault...I've never understood that one)
NAFTA and Welfare Reform OK
(was Affirmative Action killed? Really? I thought the Republicans forced his hand and Bill couldn't help himself by reforming and not ending)


Anyhow, he can either kiss his role goodbye or fall in line whether it is plausible or not.
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VotesForWomen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 10:15 PM
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54. note to you: Hillary got as many votes as Obama, so you won't be deciding whether she has a future o
or not. you O-ists act like O won 70-30 or something; you're going to find out how much support he really has soon.
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 10:28 PM
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57. It's hubris.
The guy barely crossed the finish line, and that thanks to the super weasels, and they act as if this was McCain - Huckabee.

:eyes:
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VotesForWomen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 10:18 PM
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55. word. nt
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Flying Dream Blues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 10:41 PM
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63. Ridiculous. Do you have any links to back this up? Because I've been paying attention
and I haven't seen anything like this. It's really time for this nonsense to end.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 06:33 PM
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20. He'll need the summer to recuperate
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 06:35 PM
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22. always nice to see
the hate for Bill Clinton expressed so openly here.

This is a shitty thread.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 08:42 PM
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36. Deleted sub-thread
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 09:26 PM
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48. I don't see any hate for Bill Clinton.
And I don't hate him. I asked a perfectly appropriate question which came to mind when I heard that Al Gore was endorsing Barack Obama tonight.

You're projecting something that's in your own head onto others.
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 09:38 PM
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51. some people in the thread are being nasty towards Big Dog, tho, imo.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 11:09 PM
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68. I'm not imagining the nastiness
in this thread. It's real.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 04:27 AM
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75. yes it is
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Genevieve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 07:07 PM
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26. That is a very interesting question.
I'm guessing late October --

and not too much either.
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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 07:10 PM
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27. Whenever Team Obama thinks it would be the most advantageous.
To suggest there is anything else going on is absurd and insulting to the former president.
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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 08:01 PM
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29. Those who hate him and her now will not be appeased; he'll do it when it's best for the party
The last time a candidate scorned Bill Clinton and snubbed his inestimable campaigning talents was '00, and it was the dumbest thing Gore did: it allowed the reactionaries to get close enough to steal it.

The volume of self-pity and vengeance simmering around these parts is quite a sight to behold.

Rest assured: regardless what he does, it won't be enough, and if Obama can't pull off the victory that so many here now see as inevitable, he'll be vilified to no end.
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 08:44 PM
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37. Yep, I remember Bill saying many times that he was available to help Gore
whenever he was asked, except that Gore distanced himself from Bill and it all worked soooo well in the end........
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genna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 08:54 PM
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43. I think the problem with being a sore loser is the amount of fault finding the loser finds
Maybe it won't be enough for the winner to be gracious in accommodating the loser.

Lord only knows, what will qualify as being a gracious winner means to the loser?
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BlackVelvet04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 08:03 PM
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30. Give the man a fucking break...
his wife was running against Obama. Gheesh.
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GoldieAZ49 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 08:35 PM
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34. it is never going to friggin happen
NEVAH


Bill answers to no one. He is above the party loyalty pledge.


:rofl: I cannot believe some expect it, after calling him a race baiter at best and a racist at worse. Good God some really don't have a brain in their head.

I bet Hillary passes on campaigning too, after Obama selecting Patty, whom she had fired.
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 08:46 PM
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38. I wish she would, let him get himself elected without her help
and that of her supporters. Unfortunately, she'll do the party thing and call for "unity". Yeah, we feel sooooo united this election.
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GoldieAZ49 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 08:52 PM
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42. is she still on vacation?
Til Thanksgiving perhaps?

:thumbsup:

Even if she says what is required, I doubt it will matter much the PUMA party is growing.
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 09:04 PM
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44. Yes, she's getting some well deserved rest.
She hasn't had more than 3 days off since the beginning of 2007.
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democrattotheend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 10:37 PM
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61. Good for her
She deserves it. I hope she will make good on her word to "work her heart out" to help get a Democrat elected, but she deserves some rest first!

I have been impressed with some of the steps she has taken behind the scenes though to encourage her delegates and donors to support Obama. I did not think she was genuine in her commitment to getting a Democrat elected even if it's not her, but so far I have been happy with what I have seen and if she campaigns hard for him she just might convince me. And then I'd be more likely to support her for the nomination in 2012 if Obama loses, though I certainly hope and pray that it does not come to that.
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democrattotheend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 10:32 PM
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59. What does PUMA stand for?
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NatBurner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 08:12 AM
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79. Party Unity My Ass
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davidpdx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 02:01 AM
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71. Wow, so much for party unity
Glad to hear you don't support the nominee. Hope your tombstone comes soon.
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Flying Dream Blues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 10:44 PM
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65. You can't be much of a Democrat if you feel this way. nt
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davidpdx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 02:06 AM
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72. So no one should endorse him, huh?
I guess you didn't expect anyone would have endorsed Clinton in 92'. The party rallied around him and helped him get elected two times. Now your saying no one should Obama him? Double standard? Ironic isn't it?
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BlackVelvet04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 09:13 PM
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45. I can't believe anyone would even think to ask this question....
good grief.
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 09:19 AM
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85. Actually, Hillary is going to campaign for Obama. and Bill asked
his donors to get behind Obama at a Hollywood gathering.
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 09:37 PM
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50. i think he will endorse, but they'll probably plan it so it has max impact...
clinton and obama are both excellent politicians, and it's a big endorsement, so they'll milk it for all it's worth.
that's just my feeling on the matter.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 08:04 PM
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31. When his wounds have healed.
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 08:05 PM
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32. He should save the endorsement for a very very bad week, imo.
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GoldieAZ49 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 09:35 PM
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49. In November perhaps?
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dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 11:03 PM
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67. That's my guess.
November 4.
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GoldieAZ49 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 08:32 PM
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33. LOL
:rofl:
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AZBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 08:47 PM
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40. Ummm.....never.
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 08:47 PM
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41. Probably when it would be strategically advantageous to Obama.
Not just when, but where.
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Scooter24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 09:18 PM
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46. It would probably be most effective at the convention...
with a series of joint-appearances in the southern states to gain most effect in the final months before election day.
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williesgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 10:11 PM
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53. My guess is never. He's off pouting somewhere.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 10:37 PM
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62. When he's damn good and ready. nt
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 10:52 PM
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66. After he gets Laid
Sorry but the guy was cut off during the primaries.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 11:10 PM
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69. Fuck your irrational nasty hatred
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goldcanyonaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 08:13 AM
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80. Many here would benefit from getting laid
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 09:20 AM
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86. let go of the primary anger.
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barack the house Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 04:24 AM
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73. It will be the final unifying moment. It's good the endorsements come intermittently though.
Edited on Tue Jun-17-08 04:25 AM by barack the house
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Indi Guy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 04:26 AM
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74. After Gore..
;)
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 05:26 AM
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76. He's probably too busy being a sore loser.
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Thothmes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 08:03 AM
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77. My guess is when hell freezes over
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goldcanyonaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 08:09 AM
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78. Huge rally scheduled for November 5th!
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GoldieAZ49 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 08:40 AM
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81. LOL
Touche!
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CatnHat Donating Member (669 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 08:45 AM
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82. Hope --never
Obviously Bill Clinton does not like or care too much about Obama; Hillary Clinton was strongarmed by the party to endorse Obama. Now it's all about party-- well, so much for the people.
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SeaLyons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 09:18 AM
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84. Maybe when he feels like it....
I think that two-time elected Democratic President can do whatever the hell he wants to, and the smears he endured during the primary, imho, are unforgivable.
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