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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 11:08 PM
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Video of Howard Dean's last interview with Russert.....he stuck with the rules.
One of the most important statements Dean made after being grilled over and over about the delegates...he said to Russert that they were spending a lot of time on process while most Americans had other concerns like Iraq.

Here is the video. It was one of Dean's best under serious pressure from Russert. He simply stated the rules...said it was like he was the referee.

Dean on MTP April 27


April 27: Exclusive! Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean joins us this Sunday to talk about the Clinton-Obama race and the effect the extended primary season is having on his Party.

Here is part of the transcript.

MTP transcript

MR. RUSSERT: ...made this observation about elected delegates. Let's listen.

(Audiotape)

GOV. ED RENDELL (D-PA): The popular vote is, to me, a much fairer indicia than the pledged delegates because the pledged delegates are elected in a very undemocratic way.

(End audiotape)

MR. RUSSERT: Do you agree with that?

DR. DEAN: Well, no, I don't. First of all, I don't agree with it. And secondly, look, we have a set of rules. My job here is not to side with one candidate or the other and talk about pledged delegates or superdelegates or any of that stuff. My job is to take the rules that everybody started with and enforce the rules without fear or favor of any candidate.
The--somebody's going to lose this with 49 percent of the delegates in Denver, and that person has to believe that they were treated fairly if--otherwise, we can't win. Look, John McCain is a weak candidate. He's wrong on Iraq, as far as the American people are concerned. We don't want to stay there for a hundred years. He's wrong on the economy; it wasn't the mortgage holders that, that, whose fault this was. He's wrong on healthcare. We should have health insurance for all our kids. He is not a strong candidate.

The only thing that's going to beat us is if we're not unified. And my, in order to be unified, both the losing candidate and the winning candidate have to feel like the system was fair. So Senator Rendell may say--I mean, Governor Rendell may not like the rules, but the rules are what we started with. Most of them have been in place for the last 25 years. That's what we've got to go by, whether you like the rules or you don't like the rules.


More from the interview:

MR. RUSSERT: So your personal view is that even if someone has won more elected delegates, if you think the other person would be a stronger candidate against John McCain, you'd opt for the other person?

DR. DEAN: Tim, that is not my personal view. My personal view is, I am the chairman of this party, we have a set of rules that have been in place for a year and a half, and I am the person who's in charge of upholding the rules whether I like them or not. Are there some rules I might change next time around? Yeah, maybe so. But right now we're focusing on the rules we have. Look, that's all we've got. No--I feel like I'm the referee here at the NCAA finals. You know, you make some calls, but if you stick to the rules and do the right thing according the rules, you're going to end up with a decent process. And that's what we have to do.


It doesn't take a genius to see what is still going on. A blog search reveals hate and lies and innuendo and propaganda about him. It continues.

So I thank him for sticking to the rules and not wavering. He took a lot of hits for doing that. So thanks, Howard Dean for abiding by rules that were already in place.



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Larkspur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 11:18 PM
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1. Yes, Howard was great on MTP
Howard did the right thing and history will prove him right.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 11:49 PM
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2. I hope history will do so.
:hi:
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-19-08 12:14 AM
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3. Russert kept pushing about FL and MI...
Dean handled it well.

"MR. RUSSERT: Without Michigan and Florida counting, as of now, people are saying, "Howard Dean should have handled this differently. He should have interceded and fixed this problem and not allowed us to come to a point where these two states feel dissed and it could hurt us in November."

DR. DEAN: Well, I mean, that--it wasn't my decision to make these changes. Florida and Michigan both voted for a set of rules, then they tried to push ahead of everybody else, and that makes it more difficult for everybody. We want to resolve this. This is not the voters' fault in Florida and Michigan. But the fact of the matter is that you have to--you cannot change the rules towards the end of the game just to advantage or disadvantage of a particular candidate. You can't do that.

MR. RUSSERT: But you decided not to seat the delegations, not count the primaries.

DR. DEAN: That's correct. Because they stepped on the minority groups and the small states in the South and the West that needed that time to have their primaries and have their early input.

Look, it's, it's--this is like having a, a line full of people waiting for something. If two of them jump the line and go to the front, it's not going to be long before you're going to have a riot. Don't forget, at the time these sanctions were passed by the Rules Committee, New Hampshire and Iowa were threatening to move into 2007. You've got to keep order, and that's part of my job is to keep order. It's understandable that the folks you call out because they think they're more important than everybody else are going to be upset about that. We did keep order, we do have an orderly process. I'll defend the process.

MR. RUSSERT: Will Michigan and Florida be seated?

DR. DEAN: Yes.

MR. RUSSERT: In some way, shape or form.

DR. DEAN: In some way. I'm determined to make that happen. I can't--again, I can't, I can't speak for what the rules committee will do. They're 30 very independent-minded people. I can't speak for what the credentials committee at the convention will do. I believe Michigan and Florida should be seated in some way because it was their--their voters did not cause this problem. This was caused by a political problem, not the voters' problem."

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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-19-08 09:12 PM
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4. "We did keep order, we do have an orderly process. I'll defend the process."
Yes, it was an orderly process in the end.
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 12:12 AM
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5. But... But... But...
Russert was such a Great and Objective Journalist. How can you speak ill of the dead?





But seriously...
Another fine post, and a fine performance by Dean, as always.
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jwlashta Donating Member (73 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 08:05 AM
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6. Good post
Dean was impressive; the interview was enlightening as well.

Dean should have had the nomination in 2004 and should have then become President.
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BrklynLib at work Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 08:16 AM
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7. Howard Dean would have made an excellent President. I still feel he was robbed.
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vinylsolution Donating Member (807 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 05:37 PM
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11. They switched the votes in Iowa 2004.....
.... swapped Kerry's total for Dean's.

Dean had a massive lead over John Kerry on the morning of the vote, but Kerry was declared the winner.

Dean was robbed. And so were we.

Tweety and the entire corporate media bloc did their job by pretending not to notice.


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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 05:40 PM
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12. You should have verification before you post things like that.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 05:40 PM
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13. Dupe
Edited on Fri Jun-20-08 05:55 PM by madfloridian
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lojasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 08:25 AM
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8. Kick so I can watch later.
Too late to Rec. Sorry. :)
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 10:19 AM
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9. Good for Dean!
He has guts (not that it isn't obvious anyhow) to go back on Russert's show after the malicious and hypocritical grilling he got from Russert when he ran for President.
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sallyseven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 10:21 AM
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10. I am sorry that Gov. Dean did not win the primary
in 2004. He would have made a great president. I love his 50 state formula. His bringing everyone under the tent. I hope that Obama keeps him ss DNC chairman. Get Emanuel out of the friggin way and concentrate on all the states. We should raise the money,. That way they cannot steal the election.
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