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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-19-08 09:10 AM
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CQ via Political Wire: Is Obama the Most Liberal Senator?
Is Obama the Most Liberal Senator?

Sen. John McCain has claimed that Sen. Barack Obama is the most liberal U.S. Senator but has also said that he "votes with President Bush half the time." Which is true?

CQ Politics examines the seemingly contradictory claims.

http://politicalwire.com/archives/2008/06/19/is_obama_the_most_liberal_senator.html

CQ TODAY ONLINE NEWS
June 19, 2008 – 12:35 a.m.
Rating Confusion: Is Obama a Liberal?
By Bill Adair, Politifact Editor

From Politifact

It’s a line you’ll hear many times from Sen. John McCain over the next five months: “In just a few years in office, Sen. Obama has accumulated the most liberal voting record in the Senate.”

But McCain’s campaign also pointed out recently that Barack Obama votes with President Bush about half the time.

So the biggest liberal in the Senate is a solid supporter of President Bush? What gives?

Actually, there’s some truth to both claims. The political magazine National Journal rated Obama the most liberal senator for 2007, while Congressional Quarterly calculated that Obama voted with Bush 40 to 50 percent over the past two years.

McCain’s seemingly contradictory claims illustrate the limitations of congressional ratings. Although they can provide a quick snapshot of someone’s voting record, the ratings have many shortcomings, political scientists say.

“They can give a good inkling of whether someone is liberal or conservative, but they’re not good enough for a precise determination of what someone’s ideology is,” said Josh Clinton, a political science professor at Princeton University.

more...

http://www.cqpolitics.com/wmspage.cfm?docID=news-000002900172



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bigdarryl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-19-08 09:14 AM
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1. same old rethug talking point they said the same bullshit about Kerry in 04 and I
Guarantee if Hillary was the nominee they would be saying the same think. there talking points are getting old
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-19-08 09:15 AM
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2. There's no proof to the claim he's the most liberal--a magazine label is not "proof".
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-19-08 09:17 AM
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3. No. I'd guess Russ Feingold. nt
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TechBear_Seattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-19-08 09:18 AM
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4. When compared to Socialist, Bernie Sanders?
:rofl:
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-19-08 09:38 AM
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5. Everyone knows Bob Barr is The Most Liberal Senator.
Some people say.

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JaneQPublic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-19-08 10:09 AM
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6. Even Barbara Boxer is more liberal, according to "On the Issues"
Scroll down to the Political Philosophy Grid at the bottom of their page on Barack Obama:
http://issues2000.org/Barack_Obama.htm

And compare it to the chart at the bottom of this page for Barbara Boxer:
http://issues2000.org/Senate/Barbara_Boxer.htm

And here's Russ Feingold's page, showing he is also more liberal:
http://issues2000.org/Senate/Russell_Feingold.htm

Feel free to look up other liberal senators. No doubt you'll find several others more liberal than Obama.
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JaneQPublic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-19-08 10:26 AM
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7. Here's a list of a bunch of senators more liberal than Obama...
according to issues2000.org:

Tom Harkin (IA)
Bernie Sanders (VT)
Dick Durbin (IL)
Patty Murray (WA)
Chuck Schumer (NY)
Frank Lautenberb (NJ)
Robert Menendez (NJ)

According to the Political Philosophy Grids presented for each of these senators, Obama is rated just as liberal as these:

Barbara Mikulski (MD)
Hillary Clinton (NY)
John Rockefeller (WV)

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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-19-08 10:26 AM
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8. National Journal ALWAYS has our nominee as "most liberal."
There's no way in hell Obama is more liberal than Kennedy, Feingold, etc.
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TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-19-08 10:30 AM
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9. Kucinich is my favorite liberal. I adore Obama and realize he's not
quite as liberal, but that may be better for the GE. I take "most liberal senator" as an extreme compliment, but I realize not everyone feels that way.
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