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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 11:01 AM
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Survey USA California: Obama up by 12; but McCain getting 20% of African-Am vote?
Obama: 53%
InSane: 41%

Men 52-43 InSane
Women 62-29 Obama

18-34 61-35 Obama
35-49 53-37 Obama
50-64 50-44 Obama
65 plus 51-45 InSane

White: 50-43 InSane
Latino: 65-26 Obama
black: 80-20 Obama

I think 20% of black vote going to McCain seems high, but who knows for sure?

http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=77e4eb1d-231c-4829-ba27-0160c7de2b99
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 11:01 AM
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1. That won't happen. McCain will get no more than 5% of the black vote.
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 11:02 AM
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2. Lots of current and former military in CA
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goldcanyonaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 11:02 AM
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3. Not all black people are Democrats, are there 2004 figures to compare this to?
Edited on Sat Jun-21-08 11:03 AM by goldcanyonaz
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 11:03 AM
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4. No, but considering that Kerry got 90% of AA in CA in '04 it seems high.
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 11:05 AM
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5. I think they were f'in with the pollsters :p
You assume because I'm black that I'm voting for Obama! Well--you're wrong!! /end self righteous indignation :D

Haha
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 12:54 PM
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13. Some observers say that there has been a reverse Bradley effect this season
Some black people are telling the pollsters that they are undecided for not voting for Obama but do so when they get into the voting booth. North Carolina is a good example of this.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 11:06 AM
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6. I seem to remember some weird polling like this before primaries and then the exit polling would
show it was 90+% for Obama - and that was between Dems. Between Obama and McCain, no way those numbers are accurate.
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Retired AF Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 11:09 AM
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7. Insane?
You have access to his mental health records?
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 11:18 AM
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10. We have access to the crazy nonsense that comes out of his mouth every day.
nm
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Howler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 11:10 AM
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8. NOT!!!! Snort! N/T
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glowing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 11:15 AM
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9. Polls are trying to help rig the shame... its important to vote and show up
this year.. harder to steal when everyone shows up... very important.
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my3boyz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 12:06 PM
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11. HAHA I was with you until you said that he is getting 20% of AA
vote! That is funny as hell. I guess those people a Survey USA could not bear to print the truth. LOL
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 12:45 PM
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12. No way will McLame get 20% AA voters. nt
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 01:04 PM
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14. Survey USA has been messed up the last few weeks. They had Obama losing the AA vote in Iowa.
Something funny is going on. People trying to make the race closer than it really is
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chascarrillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 05:08 PM
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24. It's not "messed up", it's just a huge MoE. They only asked about 35 black voters!
You can't draw much of a conclusion from that small of a sample (7% of 563 likely voters polled), but it doesn't mean that the overall poll is faulty.
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bigdarryl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 04:00 PM
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15. That is laughable no way he gets 20% of african american votes
Edited on Sat Jun-21-08 04:00 PM by bigdarryl
and i don't care if there in the military. Just because your in the military doesn't mean your automatically voting for McCain. Remember in 2000 Bush got more support from the military that McCain did people forget that. So don't be surprise if a lot of military people are voting for Obama.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 04:02 PM
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16. I have met some old time veterans who are for McCain but 20% is high
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 04:03 PM
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17. He also gets 20% of the flying pig vote.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 04:08 PM
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18. One out of five AA votes? Don't think so.
They all know what happened in NOLA. AND they all know who McCain's BFF is.
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 04:23 PM
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19. Afro-Americans aren't aware that McLame voted against
MLK Jr. Holiday?
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 04:25 PM
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20. Oh, yeah. And that too.
But is this fact well known in the black community?
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quantass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 04:37 PM
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21. Wilder-effect in reverse?
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 04:39 PM
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22. Please know that this is a joke.
That is all.
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bornskeptic Donating Member (951 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 05:04 PM
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23. Meaningless - sample too small
Of 503 likely voters, 7%. or about 35, were African-American. So the 20% figure is based on the responses of 7 people.
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