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onetwo (439 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-21-08 06:02 PM Original message |
Why is Obama getting killed by his own for his pragmatism? |
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zeemike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-21-08 06:09 PM Response to Original message |
1. I hope you are right |
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Labors of Hercules (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-21-08 07:21 PM Response to Reply #1 |
24. Hope is that the People will do what's right... I KNOW Obama will. nt. |
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zeemike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-21-08 08:29 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. Well don' worry there is no other choice....n.t |
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marshall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-21-08 08:57 PM Response to Reply #1 |
29. It's all part of the game... |
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rug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-21-08 06:09 PM Response to Original message |
2. After serious consideration, I conclude bullshit. |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-21-08 06:10 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. Now there's a shocker. nt |
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cliffordu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-21-08 06:12 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. Yep. I'm SHOCKED. SHOCKED, I say!!! |
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rug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-21-08 06:14 PM Response to Reply #5 |
6. Imagine how I feel having to come to that conclusion. |
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PassingFair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-21-08 06:15 PM Response to Reply #2 |
8. I think it's bullshit, too. |
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ananda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-21-08 06:11 PM Response to Original message |
4. Newsflash. |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-21-08 06:18 PM Response to Reply #4 |
10. The bill will still pass. |
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onetwo (439 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-21-08 06:25 PM Response to Reply #4 |
12. Step out of primary mode. There is no growing "lead." |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-21-08 06:39 PM Response to Reply #12 |
19. Yeah, and people don't read the polls. |
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onetwo (439 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-22-08 05:28 AM Response to Reply #19 |
48. I suggest you revisit the way the polls looked in 2007. |
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PassingFair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-21-08 07:53 PM Response to Reply #12 |
25. You go ahead and keep your powder dry, honey. |
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Raksha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-21-08 09:13 PM Response to Reply #25 |
31. Why can't more people see that? |
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tabatha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-21-08 06:15 PM Response to Original message |
7. Obama said change comes from the bottom up. Again and again. |
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PassingFair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-21-08 06:17 PM Response to Reply #7 |
9. He is where he is BECAUSE of the people. |
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onetwo (439 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-21-08 06:31 PM Response to Reply #9 |
15. Is this any better than RW'ers voting against their best interests because of fringe social issues? |
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PassingFair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-21-08 06:34 PM Response to Reply #15 |
17. This is not a "fringe" issue. |
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tabatha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-22-08 12:30 AM Response to Reply #15 |
42. Ok - Obama votes no. |
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provis99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-21-08 07:10 PM Response to Reply #9 |
22. sounds like what we said in 2006 |
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JoFerret (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-21-08 10:35 PM Response to Reply #9 |
40. Hello... |
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tabatha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-22-08 12:29 AM Response to Reply #9 |
41. There would be no support from the people if he had not run. |
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Saturday (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-21-08 06:20 PM Response to Reply #7 |
11. And I cannot believe that people don't understand he's a politician. nt |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-21-08 06:29 PM Response to Original message |
13. let see..lied about Nafta , about campaign financing...and now Fisa.. |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-21-08 06:40 PM Response to Reply #13 |
20. Meet the new 'boss'...same as the ..... |
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tabatha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-22-08 12:31 AM Response to Reply #13 |
43. He did not lie about Nafta. |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-22-08 12:32 AM Response to Reply #13 |
44. just another day |
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MNDemNY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-21-08 06:30 PM Response to Original message |
14. While other Democratic members of Congress are referred to as "spineless"? |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-21-08 06:32 PM Response to Original message |
16. Those pesky rethugs indicted had nothing to do with voters turning away. It was all Obama's charm! |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-21-08 06:35 PM Response to Original message |
18. "That's why Kucinich & friends are where they are"- and the M$M & DLC had nothing do with it either! |
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BzaDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-22-08 12:34 AM Response to Reply #18 |
45. I think you are missing the point. Of course the MSM had to do with it. |
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populistdriven (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-21-08 07:09 PM Response to Original message |
21. McCain didn't love America, until he was tortured into it. There are no atheists in foxholes either |
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Orsino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-21-08 07:14 PM Response to Original message |
23. "Better than Bush" for sure, but that is no glowing recommendation. |
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Runcible Spoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-21-08 08:40 PM Response to Original message |
27. For the LOVE OF GOD/DESS, please SHOW ME evidence that surveillance bills are popular with ANY voter |
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Raksha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-21-08 09:22 PM Response to Reply #27 |
32. You are SO right! |
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Runcible Spoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-21-08 09:25 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. that is put so simply and elegantly. |
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Raksha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-22-08 02:23 AM Response to Reply #34 |
47. Thanks...I was kinda proud of that one myself! |
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PassingFair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-23-08 09:40 AM Response to Reply #27 |
51. I know some chickenshit republicans that think they are being "protected" |
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AZBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-21-08 08:46 PM Response to Original message |
28. K&R |
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MoonRiver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-21-08 09:00 PM Response to Original message |
30. WHY? |
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Imagevision (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-21-08 09:24 PM Response to Original message |
33. You mean to say that there are no mccain freepers in here playing ex-Obama supporters< get real! |
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crankychatter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-21-08 09:27 PM Response to Reply #33 |
35. ditto - nt |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-21-08 10:31 PM Response to Reply #33 |
38. Certainly a possibility. |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-22-08 02:07 AM Response to Reply #33 |
46. maybe..just maybe there are Americans here who give a rats ass about our constitution.. |
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onetwo (439 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-22-08 05:35 AM Response to Reply #46 |
49. And you actually think Obama, a U of Chi Constitutional Law professor, doesn't? |
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FourPieRun (73 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-21-08 09:27 PM Response to Original message |
36. if he gets elected, isn't he going to have to think about *re-election?* uh huh, that's the way it |
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LVjinx (711 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-21-08 10:12 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. George Bush got re-elected. |
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JoFerret (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-21-08 10:34 PM Response to Original message |
39. These are same people (some of them) |
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JoFerret (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-22-08 07:56 AM Response to Original message |
50. Adlai Stevenson was a man of great principle |
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