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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 08:20 PM
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Just checking in and gobsmacked by the passionate newbies being driven out by DU habits
The recurring theme seems to be folks arriving recently because they thought this would be the place for a certain level of awareness and discussion.

Next thing ya know there's a megaRec'd OP about "Stay Out If You Don't Agree."


Once you've been around here for a while -- and especially if you share that shock that DU is not quite as "progressive" as one thought.... and more combative ...... you learn the ropes.

Apparently some folks are hanging in under a 100 posts and bailing.

Would this be the time for some self reflection on DU? Is it really a good idea to drive folks away?

I stuck around because I did NOT want to be in an echo chamber and wanted to hear from different points of view. DU is diverse. That's great.

However, sometimes the communication skills REALLY break down.

It's too bad to drop in and see potential allies saying goodbye, while territorial DUers are saying "good riddance."

Cheers :toast: and here's to that "damn piece of paper."
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bliss_eternal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 08:22 PM
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1. Just stuck my head in briefly...
...and saw this. Thought I'd say hi.

:hi: Good to see you!
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 08:24 PM
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5. hey bliss
:hug:

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bliss_eternal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 08:28 PM
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8. hey....
:pals::hug:
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 08:22 PM
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2. Yeah, this place can be brutal sometimes
and not very friendly to newbies. I know I got my feelings hurt a few times in the beginning. Now, I just don't care what anybody says.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 08:22 PM
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3. Kick
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Speck Tater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 08:23 PM
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4. Bitter partisanism is alive and well. NT
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 08:25 PM
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6. The people leaving are doing so because they don't understand
Why Democratic Underground is a place that attacks Democrats without any regard for the those Dems positions or even the truth.
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 08:29 PM
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9. and some of us here
Edited on Thu Jul-10-08 08:30 PM by omega minimo
attack each other...


:bounce: :bounce:
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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 08:28 PM
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7. I always feel sorry for Newbies, Paranoia runs deep
around here sometimes and Newbies bear the brunt of it.
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 08:32 PM
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12. there could be a DU Cliff Notes
certain (progressive) ideas get trounced.

Good idea:

Listen.
Read before posting.
Drop assumptions.



Uh OH! Sounds like a PINK TUTU Democrat!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :yoiks:
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 08:30 PM
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10. Maybe we need a new welcome mat.
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 08:40 PM
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18. Perfect!!!
:rofl:

DUzy!!!
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frog92969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 08:30 PM
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11. I bailed out at under a 100 posts.
But I came back for some reason.
Maybe they'll come back too.
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 08:34 PM
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13. so then
there's more left of center..........

:think: :hi:
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frog92969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 08:39 PM
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16. Center IS left...
but don't tell anybody, it's a well guarded secret.
:hi:
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 08:43 PM
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19. Hey! Don't get us yanked to the Philosophy Forum!!!!!!1
That's way existential, dude/tte.

Also why I didn't want to be in a echo chamber.

:thumbsup:
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frog92969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 08:50 PM
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23. How many dungeons are in this castle?
Sheesh! I better start packing a ball of twine.:eyes:
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Eyes_wide_ open Donating Member (417 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 08:36 PM
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14. What? Why it almost sounds ...

like I detect the sound of sanity ;)

Cheers Please to make your aquaintance
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 08:38 PM
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15. the more the manyer
:hi:
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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 08:46 PM
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21. Welcome, Eyes_wide_open.
:hi:
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 08:52 PM
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25. !
;)
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Eyes_wide_ open Donating Member (417 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-11-08 02:23 AM
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32. Thanks

:hi:
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frog92969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 08:54 PM
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26. Speak of the devil
Welcome new person, and armor up.
:hi:
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 08:55 PM
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27. Take off your armor and you can
climb to the Tower :hide:
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frog92969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 09:01 PM
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28. I heard today that the view is wonderful up there.
I read it on the intertubes so I know it's true.
:rofl:
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Eyes_wide_ open Donating Member (417 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-11-08 02:29 AM
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33. LOL
Edited on Fri Jul-11-08 02:37 AM by Eyes_wide_ open
No armor ... and no Ivory tower

The Force I will use
Enough will it be

Thanks for the welcomes

Oh yeah, edited to say Let's just keep that devil thing under our hats eh? I'm saving it for a surprise ;)
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 08:39 PM
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17. As any of us who joined during 2004 knows
this is DU's bag - you either survive the fight and learn how to swim against/with the current or you take a powder. Many of us are douches and we were also n3wbs at one time.
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 08:44 PM
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20. Pirhannas
Do we really have to choose between eating our own and baiting each other?

Yeah, it takes sharp elbows and a lot of (wasted) energy.
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Hardrada Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 08:48 PM
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22. There's disagreement on every political site even on
Stormfront. Maybe even on Free Republic. Lots of agendas.
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 08:51 PM
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24. Disagreement is one thing. Being incapable of discussion is another.
Shouting down certain ideas/topics because of bad assumptions/attitudes does a lot of damage here.
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 09:38 PM
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30. Not really. It was like this in 2004 too.
Grow a thicker skin.
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JohnnyLib2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 09:29 PM
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29. K & R

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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 09:46 PM
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31. I'm always shocked at the childish claims that Oldies are better than Newies . . .
what nuttiness . . . !!

Everyone is only as good as what they are posting --- and maybe the last thing they posted!

Where do people get these crazy ideas . . .

or . . . is it about MONEY . . . ????

Are they saying that they've been here giving money for quite a time and they think they,

therefore, they deserve special considerations --- ????



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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-11-08 08:43 AM
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34. I'm pretty gobsmacked by how many of the newbies think they own this place
and get to decide what people are allowed to say.

The last time I saw this many bullies and hall monitors was in the third grade.
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