Just a wake-up call: Mccain is the co-frontrunner/frontrunner right now

Newsweek poll has the race 44-41 Obama (a 3 point lead down from a 15 point lead-with independents moving to Mccain), Rasmussen has it as 43-43 Mccain/Obama and 47-46 Obama with leaners, a dead heat (it was 49-43 last week). Gallup shows a 47-43 Obama lead.

The race right now is a dead heat and Mccain is using the broad support among his base (the media) to drive the media narrative and put Obama on the defensive with faux pas scandals like campaign finance opt-outs and Jessie Jackson private remarks.

I'm sure this will all turn around with the VP selection and the convention but things are tough for us right now. Keep donating at the pace that you have been to Barack, keep phone banking, keep working on any republican/independent leaning friends who are leaning towards Mccain to bring them over to Barack that you can, keep volunteering in other ways. Please don't think that this race is won.

In the end, I think that the VP selection, conventions, and Obama crushing Mccain in the debates along with the fundamentals of a nation the most unhappy it has ever been along with the middle east in chaos and the economy in collapse will lead Senator Obama to a strong victory but right now the race is not heading in our direction. Let's all work to change that by doing whatever we can to help.

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Your concern is duly noted.

:hurts:

Kicking a thread you don't like to snark off with a tedious cliche reply that makes a veiled accusation that's against the rules anyway is lousy behavior.

You could have run that sentence on a little further if you'd wanted to....


:rofl:

4 years is a mighty long time,
and a mighty lot of bad things
can happen in that time.
It will be much more of a nightmare
than people imagine with McCain as president.
People thought that Bush wouldn't be that bad,
and look what happened.

the stupidity of the American voter. Gore should have won in a landslide. It never should have been close. Florida should not have even been an issue. The same for Kerry. Ohio should now have been that big a deal.

We've got a hot shot war hero running against a Black teenager. At least that's the way MSM seems to want to cast this opera.

Think those media driven stereotypes don't matter? Think again.

their polling sample changed dramatically.

polls were unreliable.

by a media org. or some org. very close to the media. THEY want a RACE to keep their ratings up. This race is not nearly as close as they're claiming. With all the stupid mistakes and stupid positions McNut has done, there aren't THAT many stupid American voters! I'm not suggesting overconfidence, but unless Barack does something really, really dumb or outrageous before Nov. this election is in the bag.

donating.

This is no cake walk, no matter how much better our guy is compared to the slug the reps have running.

Maybe I'm just projecting. I'm a worrier by nature, and have a natural aversion to over confidence. I always fear I'll come up short, so I work extra hard, then when I succeed I do it in a big way.

But we need to succeed in a big way in this election to overcome the reps who will do anything -- lie, cheat, steal... or start another war -- to keep control. Any, and every rotten trick they can pull, they will pull.

You all should know that I'm an Obama donor in the past (back in May). Here are the 4 e-mails that I received. I saved them along with all other e-mails that I get from Senator Obama's campaign just as momentos.

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ANYWAY, back on topic now, I think being worried about the state of the race right now and the direction that the media narrative has taken is just common sense. Fortunately, the media narrative will be swung by Obama's VP selection and convention and I am not terribly worried. However, take nothing for granted and keep working as hard as possible.

I agree with your idea that

".... being worried about the state of the race right now and the direction that the media narrative has taken is just common sense."



:thumbsup:

We get a LOT of concern trolls around here, troublemakers who want to spread a little FUD.

Try some positive stuff for a while until folks know who you are and then you will never have to prove who you are with contribution letters.

And I won't snark you.

And if you DO want to publish polls and data, maybe you could read some of the stuff by grantcart or phrigundumass (sp?) and see how the heavyweight champions do it.

Or you can just continue to tell people to shut the fuck up.

natural or normal. (as the ads here in Montana go) But on meth it is. (We really do have anti meth ads like that)

Anyway, his response was a tad on the strong side but you started it, right?

Concern trolls abound.

These polls mean exactly shit right now, as soon as Oct 1 hits, maybe they'll mean more. They're being manipulated....Or Obama has lost what - 14 points in the last week???

The polls are a CONSTANT source of 'concern'. If I am wrong then I am wrong.

Thanks for your input though!


Cliffordu,

goon squad precinct captain

otherwise. You do sleep, right?

About the anti-meth ads. They show some really horrible situation and the voice over is

"Picking bugs off your skin for hours isn't normal - But on meth it is."

so anyway, I started writing "being constantly suspicious isn't normal." and then it made me think of those ads, so I tosses in, "but on meth it is." Just because it seemed to belong, in a stream of consciousness way.

The interesting thing about polls, is if someone posts one that shows Obama up, then there is no negative feedback. The next day if they post a new one that shows him down, they get jumped on.

Doesn't that seem a tad weird and unnatural to you?

I'm on the west coast, work out of my house and use a computer for that work. I am online a lot.

I check DU multiple times an hour to get out of the hamster wheel that is what I am working on now, and freely tweak the overly concerned, the dead horse jockeys and the Tony Snow apologists.

(Actually, when I am not on my mountain bike in the woods or riding my cargo bike downtown for supplies I am online.)

I could give a shit about the polls, what I AM concerned (!!) with is the use of polls for the spread of FUD over the race. It creates doubt, cuts down on donations, helps the weak stay away from the polls and generally weakens the resolve of some here.

The up polls I leave alone, I will not tell anyone that they will fall again - they seem to do that at the whim of the pollster. I don't often get too excited about any poll or map put up around here except the work buy phrigundumass and grantcart.


I just don't want the 'concern' to get to the point it was when the Wright 'controversy' was in full bloom. That was beyond the pale.

I've been wrong before and I'll be wrong again. Count on it.

This has less to do with the real world than your average porn title.

Actually, at least the average porn movie doesn't have any illusions of grandeur.

I just don't want to be accused of being a concern troll or anything when I'm really not and react strongly to that. I apologize for reacting so strongly. Won't happen again. Peace dude and sorry again.

If anyone messes with you from now on, just call the one of us on the Goon Squad...

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(Sorry for my bad initial reaction, too.)

It was in keeping with my modest circumstances. But I just recently had a major financial concern resolved in my favor, so I'm feeling "generous". "Matching contribution" is always attractive, so is there a way of doing so via DU? Otherwise, I'll use the above cited website.

pnorman

they don't own this website

all they have is an inflated sense of their own self importance

and they have no right to question you or anyone else here

Which is what you were doing.

Sorry, anyone with under 1000 posts without a star who is posting "ooooh, McCain might win!" posts is, by default, not here for Democratic purposes, imho. If you choose to remain blind to those people among us, by all means do so.

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A vocal minority.

=(predictably) different results. I don't think it's as close as the media are currently making it out to be--but what worries me is that if they can claim going into November that it's neck and neck, then it's MUCH easier for the Republicans to steal the election electronically. Otherwise, the polls really don't matter all that much.

And morale (ie: enthusiasm), being contagious, may be one of Obama's greatest strengths. But it's ALWAYS a good idea to stay alert.

The M$M, being more spineless & craven than in any time in their sorry history, has been reluctant to actively bum-rap someone who may turn out to be another FDR in November. But if any perceived "weakness" develops, it may be another matter! Stay confident, but stay alert!

pnorman

things look far off when the purpose of the telescope is to bring far off things close.....the pigmedia intentionally acts goofy nyuk nyuk and reports what it sees with the telescope backwards, nudge wink- a detail too mundane to mention to the user of the product the pigmedia excretes. The bush media need to be the main attraction at a nationwide pigroast- let them produce something of value for once (imagine rush limbah on a spit over a barbacue grill, with an apple stuffed in the old bean hole!)

The ONLY way the GOP can win is to steal the election... again.

Well, all he has done is tied Obama. There's not one poll where he's leading (except maybe in Alabama).
THAT is what speaks to the future, not the numbers on ONE poll.

We can take that day off and rest up from our celebratory night - and then on the 6th we'll start planning President Obama's inauguration.

Kerry and Bush were similarly tied this time of year in 2004, and we all know how that turned out.

And I think Obama sees that.

Welcome to DU! :hi:

I'm sorry you've been treated badly by some members here. I'm not a big Obama fan, but I'm a Democrat, and I see that you are too. Your post was sincere. We all interpret the polls and the MSM's take on things in our own capacity, and are thus entitled to say as much. You've done nothing wrong, including your reaction to the know-it-all who made a point of publicly belittling your post and your integrity. Stay tough. Ignore the self righteous and remember, the only thing he (they) have over you is a higher post count.


That's the best I have to offer. :o)

In one country, which Newsweek polled in June, the electorate is split R26/D38/I36. In the other country, which Newsweek polled a few weeks later, that country's electorate is split R32/D32/I36.

In one country, polled in June, 84% of the electorate is white. In the other country, polled a few weeks later, 88% of the electorate is white.

In one country, polled in June, 19% of the registered voters are under 40, 39% are between 40 and 59, and 42% are 60 or older. In the other country, polled a few weeks later, only 17% of the registered voters are under 40, 38% are between 40 and 59, and 45% are 60 or older.

In the younger, slightly more racially diverse and much more Democratic country, Barack Obama was supposedly leading by 15 points. In the country that is somewhat older, is somewhat whiter, and is evenly split between Republicans and Democrats, Barack Obama is supposedly leading McCain by only 3 points.

According to Newsweek, comparing these results shows "what a difference a few weeks can make." A more valid conclusion is that it shows what a difference polling two very different countries can make.